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NYTIMES.com: Cigarettes With No Smoke, Tar or, as It Happens, U.S. Assent
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So if the bastion of Liberal Nirvana can make a descent article...there may be hope for us yet
So if the bastion of Liberal Nirvana can make a descent article...there may be hope for us yet
Yes I thought this was a fair and complete article with valid points both ways.
Should someone tell Dr Richard Hurt that PG is found in cigarettes and asthma inhalers...
He doesn't "think" that it's safe to inhale? LOL. X
He doesn't "think" that it's safe to inhale? LOL. X
It amazes me that this arguement(PG inhalation) hasn't been snuffed out like the bans should be.
So if the bastion of Liberal Nirvana can make a descent article...there may be hope for us yet
Yes, agree! They never like anything except Progressive Liberal stuff, this is a good sign!
I've noticed that the tone of articles on PV's has changed in recent months for the better...our voices are getting heard.
"I saw a kiosk selling these at the mall. The smell is positively wretched."
WHAT?! This person is obviously an idiot!
WHAT?! This person is obviously an idiot!
I'm glad to see someone is finally trying to post an unbiased article about the e-cigarette. It is true that voices are being heard. Hopefully this will usher in a rush of new articles that do not condemn the use of e-cigs but presents both sides of the argument to let the public decide what they think about it. It's interesting that they noted the study in the article. I was actually surprised by that. But does it concern anyone else that the one study being done in the states is focused on the nicotine content and not the issues at hand concerning the safety?
She cut her smoking to a pack and a half supplimented by e-cigs! How much was she smoking befoire the e-cig?
The study does not focus only on nicotine. There are four outcome measures: blood nicotine, expired air CO, heart rate, and withdrawal suppression. These are the same major outcome measures that have been used in other published studies from this laboratory that have evaluated other nicotine/tobacco products. Generally speaking, these measures are relevant to understanding a nicotine/tobacco product's potential to induce/maintain dependence, influence cardiovascular disease, and substitute for cigarettes.
The study does not focus on the safety of propylene glycol inhalation because the measures that would address this issue are unclear, especially in a short-term study such as this one, where smokers use one "e-cig" model twice on one day and another "e-cig" model twice on another day. The adverse effects of propylene glycol inhalation, if any, are more likely to be observed after longer-term exposure.
The study does not focus on the safety of propylene glycol inhalation because the measures that would address this issue are unclear, especially in a short-term study such as this one, where smokers use one "e-cig" model twice on one day and another "e-cig" model twice on another day. The adverse effects of propylene glycol inhalation, if any, are more likely to be observed after longer-term exposure.
Seems we all found the same news release, mine has a different perspective: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning/19918-read-between-lines-not-good.html#post321850
I'm a willing guinea pig - have been using these things since November, and have cut my cigarette consumption from 1 to 1-1/2 packs a day to less than 1/2 a pack per day. I can "smoke" in my home again with these things, after 30 years of tobacco, I've never felt better.
I didn't like the last little bit where the guy said about people standing outside in the cold while he stood at the bar smoking. 'smoking' is the wrong word to use!
I read that article in the New York Times this morning; there was also a different article about e-cigarettes in the Wall Street Journal this morning (I read both on my Kindle, but found the article online). The WSJ article was by Lauren Etter.
Here is the link: Controversy Swirls Around E-Cigarettes - WSJ.com
Here is the link: Controversy Swirls Around E-Cigarettes - WSJ.com
Is that what they use so pets won't die from licking it up? Wow, that is amazing that one can be so deceptive to let people think that propylene glycol is in the anti freeze that is so toxic when it's what is used to make it non toxic.
Thanks Txrider for pointing out that deceptive use of language.
Tobacco regulation bill on fast track - UPI.com
at the bottom of the article it said that BT (Altria Group, formerly Philip Morris) is wanting this for a new product...
at the bottom of the article it said that BT (Altria Group, formerly Philip Morris) is wanting this for a new product...
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