OAKLAND - Attorney General Edmund G. Brown Jr. today announced a settlement with Sottera

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I live in Oregon, the only state with a retail ban ATM. This sounds similar to what happened here. One week I'm at my local Tobaccanist buying refills and everything is hunky dory, not three days later I'm there again and they look and act like there was a leg breaker visit. They proceed to tell me this story of visits from some undisclosed agency (I assume the State Attorney Office) and told that e cig and e cig related items were ¨banned¨. I couldn't get the whole story from them, but they said they were fined and had to take all their stuff off of the shelves. All very hush hush can't find much posted on the web about the Oregon retail ban either.
vape On!! when they object we know wer'e doing something right.
 

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So, just to make everyone feel a bit better, e-cigs are ok in Wisconsin. There is hope.
But in the country as a whole, I realize, there is need to succeed in getting the word out.

I wouldn't celebrate too much. Unfortunately, much of this country has a habit of following whatever craziness California does. After 20 years there, I moved away to get away from it, but I find more and more of California's "liberal freedom" ideas imposing on how I choose to live my life.
 
I live in Oregon, the only state with a retail ban ATM. This sounds similar to what happened here. One week I'm at my local Tobaccanist buying refills and everything is hunky dory, not three days later I'm there again and they look and act like there was a leg breaker visit. They proceed to tell me this story of visits from some undisclosed agency (I assume the State Attorney Office) and told that e cig and e cig related items were ¨banned¨. I couldn't get the whole story from them, but they said they were fined and had to take all their stuff off of the shelves. All very hush hush can't find much posted on the web about the Oregon retail ban either.
vape On!! when they object we know wer'e doing something right.

You can't find any information on a retail ban because their isn't one. You are right, however, that this is very similar to what happened here in Oregon. Oregon AG Kroger's assistant threatened legal action against Sottera/Njoy and SE and they settled out of court by agreeing to not sell their products in truck stops or convenience stores. It got REPORTED as a ban, as far as I know there is no law preventing their sale. They've changed the laws on tobacco so much in the last few years, however, that the rumor of a ban is working as a de facto ban because most store owners are too scared of legal repercussions to carry them.
 

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I intended to write about his last month but got caught up in other pressing matters. Apparently the topic still isn't dead, as long as there are those who look to the settlement as proof of NJOY wrongdoing. So...today's blog:
The Truth About Nicotine: A Case of Legalized Extortion
 

Alžběta Madragana

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What's wrong with these people?!
I have an NJOY NPRO and also several other e-cig products. I've been on NJOY's website.
They, just like every single other site selling e-cig products, ALL say, 'must be OVER 18 to enter'.
I'm soooo tired of these IDIOTS in our so-called 'legal system' sueing e-cig sellers.
I think it all SUCKS.
From what I've been able to deduce on this website, the vapers who really like flavoured e-juice are ALL over 18.
A lot of kids are too busy abusing other stuff to bother with vaping. They're young enough to buy analogs so what's the problem? And they for sure don't have any troubles getting the illegal stuff they want.
I say, "Leave us vapers and our suppliers alone, thank you!"
 

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I live in Oregon, the only state with a retail ban ATM. This sounds similar to what happened here. One week I'm at my local Tobaccanist buying refills and everything is hunky dory, not three days later I'm there again and they look and act like there was a leg breaker visit. They proceed to tell me this story of visits from some undisclosed agency (I assume the State Attorney Office) and told that e cig and e cig related items were ¨banned¨. I couldn't get the whole story from them, but they said they were fined and had to take all their stuff off of the shelves. All very hush hush can't find much posted on the web about the Oregon retail ban either.
Vape On!! when they object we know wer'e doing something right.
Well, I think this SUCKS too.
We want to vape and we're hurting nobody by doing it. My wife loves that I stopped blackening my lungs with analogs and now inhale some of the SAME stuff that's in her nebulizer treatments! I smoked 2 packs a day for 20 years. What a freaking waste of money and health.
I began vaping in February this year. In 2 days, my horrible hacking cough disappeared completely, and in another week, I could taste food and smell things beyond belief. (So I think that means my health is improving)
My sincere and heartfelt thanks to the person(s) who invented the e-cig, to the sellers of them, and to the people in England who run this ECF.
My hat is off to all of you!
 
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