OD? Mixing? Why do I feel like this?

[purplxhaze420]

Ok... so I got into vaping and E-Cigs a month or 2 ago.. and purchased myself a rn4081 from SE @ the mall. I initially was using 24 and 16mg juices that I baught... and got horribly sick. (This was the first try of switching 2 vaping) I identified my symptoms as a nic OD. I had a low fever the entire time, but my face felt like it was on fire. I had a wretched cramp in the same spot in my gut... and was projectile vomiting my brains out. Nausea was horrific, also. The liquid I was using was PG. So after all this chaos, I baught myself a pack of marlboro ultra lights and reintro'd myself back to the analogs until I was able to get some very low nic juice.

So yesterday I started vaping again, 6MG (75%VG 25%PG I believe the mix was) and the flavors are awesome! As of now, I am still smoking analogs but not as many as usual. Was attempting a transition, if this makes sense to anybody. But now, those old symptoms are kind of starting to show again. My face is feeling hot, and I have slight nausea in the pit of my gut.. kind of like before, but not nearly as intense. Also, I have yet to vomit, so that's good.

I'm not sure of this is because I'm doing the cigs and the ecigs at the moment.. if its the VG .. is 6mg too much?? There's a million questions running throught my head that I just don't know the answers to.

Well now that you know my story.. what do you think? Any input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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[techtony]

you may be allergic to something in it. might be allergic to nicotine it's self. I'm alergic to tobacco it seams.

 

[purplxhaze420]

Allergic to nicotine itself? I have been smoking analogs for almost 5 yrs and have been fine. Has anybody ever experienced any reaction from VG? Maybe its just the pg in it because my last juice was 100%pg and I was very sick.. and now I am just a little.

 

[SingingWolf]

Maybe its just the pg in it because my last juice was 100%pg and I was very sick.. and now I am just a little.

It might be a sensitivity to PG.

You might want to try vaping a little VG, thinned out with some distilled water, in a clean cart. Take a few puffs then see how you feel. - No flavors, no nicotine.

If that doesn't make you sick, start looking at the VG juices... or go DIY.

 

[JaYBoNeS]

Could very well be the PG.

You didn't eliminate it from the new stuff, merely cut down the percentage of it. And as a result, you were sick again, but not as bad. Impossible for anyone to really say if it could be VG at all, since you've only had PG and a combination of PG/VG, but the common denominator so far is PG right?

6mg is low (for nicotine). So smoking and ecigs shouldn't be it unless you are vaping and smoking like a monster, I can't even tell if I'm getting nic at 6mg. The 6mg will not tell you how much VG is in it either. It measures the nicotine content and has nothing to do with how much VG or PG is in the mix.

Bottom line: by your post it's very difficult to tell at all what the issue may be as you have not fully eliminated any of the ingredients that may be doing it, but my guess is the PG, as lowering it did actually change how badly it affected you.

Hope that helps.

 

[Liscab]

It might be a sensitivity to PG.

You might want to try vaping a little VG, thinned out with some distilled water, in a clean cart. Take a few puffs then see how you feel. - No flavors, no nicotine.

If that doesn't make you sick, start looking at the VG juices... or go DIY.

I agree, on the other hand it is very hard for some people to a make a drastic change keep the analogs but reduce them at the end they are going to be ancient history

 

[SingingWolf]

I agree, on the other hand it is very hard for some people to a make a drastic change keep the analogs but reduce them at the end they are going to be ancient history

Oh, this was just meant to test if the pure VG will cause any problems. There are lots of VG ejuices and DIY VG bases (with nicotine) out there.

 

[Liscab]

Oh, this was just meant to test if the pure VG will cause any problems. There are lots of VG ejuices and DIY VG bases (with nicotine) out there.

do you dance with a wolf too?

 

[SingingWolf]

do you dance with a wolf too?

Whenever I get a chance... which hasn't been for about a decade.

 

[Liscab]

Whenever I get a chance... which hasn't been for about a decade.

 

[crashtestjeep]

It could also be the mixture of vaping nic and smoking it. I too, felt sick when doing both, I gave up the cigs and all was well.....but id try to also do only VG one cart-see how u feel then all PG one cart-see how u feel, the above posters are very rt in saying an allergy may be involved but also take into acct that when u vape then lite one up, that could OD you as well

 

[TropicalBob]

You know, we need to share knowledge through this forum, but this entire thread is a sterling argument in favor of giving the FDA control of what is obviously a drug product that causes severe reactions in some who use it. It gives me no pleasure to conclude that.

As BigJimW pointed out in another thread, the "side effects" listed by the FDA in its legal appeal were taken in perfect order from this forum's Health threads. That's not an accident. We have given them the ammunition to kill us with. And they'll use it. Where else is there a collection of complaints from large numbers of e-smokers? ECF is the source of the FDA's negative information.

I assume everyone realizes that any reaction as serious as that of the poster -- projectile vomiting??? - would give pause to any regulatory body considering a product. We are handing them all they need to ban e-smoking.

And the worst posts are from those who fear "nicotine overdose". Please read the Health New Zealand reports in their entirety to realize how LITTLE nicotine a user inhales with each puff of 16mg liquid. Roughly 1/10th that in an inhalation of a regular cigarette. A person would need to suck 30 e-cigs at once to overdose.

Most negative reactions are the body screaming for the nicotine it once got from cigarette smoking. But that won't matter once the FDA reads that e-smoking causes projectile vomiting, etc. The agency "must" act to protect consumers for the public good (sarcasm).

 

[purplxhaze420]

You know, we need to share knowledge through this forum, but this entire thread is a sterling argument in favor of giving the FDA control of what is obviously a drug product that causes severe reactions in some who use it. It gives me no pleasure to conclude that.

As BigJimW pointed out in another thread, the "side effects" listed by the FDA in its legal appeal were taken in perfect order from this forum's Health threads. That's not an accident. We have given them the ammunition to kill us with. And they'll use it. Where else is there a collection of complaints from large numbers of e-smokers? ECF is the source of the FDA's negative information.

I assume everyone realizes that any reaction as serious as that of the poster -- projectile vomiting??? - would give pause to any regulatory body considering a product. We are handing them all they need to ban e-smoking.

And the worst posts are from those who fear "nicotine overdose". Please read the Health New Zealand reports in their entirety to realize how LITTLE nicotine a user inhales with each puff of 16mg liquid. Roughly 1/10th that in an inhalation of a regular cigarette. A person would need to suck 30 e-cigs at once to overdose.

Most negative reactions are the body screaming for the nicotine it once got from cigarette smoking. But that won't matter once the FDA reads that e-smoking causes projectile vomiting, etc. The agency "must" act to protect consumers for the public good (sarcasm).

Would you rather me lie, and allow my issue to become exacerbated? Right now, I'm interested in MY HEALTH, and frankly, not what the FDA cares. Yes, I suppose this may give them "ammo", but hey -- what else a I supposed to do.
Clearly, the e-cig IS CAUSING/HELPING CAUSE severe reactions within my body... so maybe it wouldn't even be bad for the FDA to list these as side effects of PG, or whatever my issue is exactly. Hoping to get to the bottom of this. Gunna get some USP Glycerin (IS THIS THE SAME AS VG...RIGHT???) from walmart and vape it up, and see how it goes. Also going to get a bottle of the PG and do the same.


Thanks everybody for the quick responses! Let's try to stay on topic here! Thanks!

 

[purplxhaze420]

It could also be the mixture of vaping nic and smoking it. I too, felt sick when doing both, I gave up the cigs and all was well.....but id try to also do only VG one cart-see how u feel then all PG one cart-see how u feel, the above posters are very rt in saying an allergy may be involved but also take into acct that when u vape then lite one up, that could OD you as well

Today will tell!
Gunna do 1 .... this mornings, and then vape all the rest of the day. We will seeee!

I don't understand how others are saying that what I experienced prior was not a nicotine overdose. I dont think a PG reaction would be so violent. When i first started smoking at age 13, I smoked 2 newports right after each other and experienced the same exact symptoms almost. (fever, puke, nausea) but in the newport instance, I was unable to move 1 muscle of my body. I was a rock.. it was weird.

THOUGHT: Could it be remaining high nic/nig pg liquid in my atty still? Ive blown it out like 5 times since i started this neww 6mg juice, though.