Of all the places to be told to stop vaping

[Furius]

In recent weeks I have been vaping in pretty much every non smoking establishment I can enter with the exception of stores since I know I'd have to explain it every 5 seconds a new person came into my presence. But as far as restaurants go, I have hit a lot of them and get friendly encounters at all of them if not for a random dirty look from some people who don't have the guts to simply ask me what I'm doing.
However for the first time I have been told to put it away in of all places....The Borgata in Atlantic City. One of the last smoking meccas in the world, casinos, I was told to put it away. To be fair I honestly think the woman dealer mistook my ecig for a real cigarette at a non smoking craps table, however when I tried to desperately explain myself she ignored me. It was kind of loud but instead of continuing to reach the unreachable, I gave up and made a point to show her me sliding the right into my front shirt pocket. She seemed undaunted that I just put, what she thought, was a lit cigarette directly into my shirt pocket. And mind you I had been vaping at this table for about a half hour before this woman told me to "not smoke". All of the patrons that were within inches of me at the crowded table didn't say a word and even a majority of the workers running the table said nothing except for one particularly surly woman who was working the table. I think even after she realized that I wasn't really smoking a cigarette she didn't care enough and was probably too drunk with pride to tell me she had made a mistake and that I could go ahead. And she did it in such a way that she was scolding a disruptive child. She flipped me major attitude to the point where the entire half of the table was looking at me wondering what on God's green earth I was doing that called for the game to stop for me to get barked at. It hurt the other dealers as well since my friend who likes to throw money around and tips the dealers every single roll, quit throwing the tips due to my treatment by the dealer.
However except for that little bump in the road, vaping at the Borgata was a pretty pleasurable experience and I vaped all through the hotel in the lobby and even in the elevator with security abound and none of them gave me so much as a cross eyed look.

 

[xdunlapx]

Does your ecig look like a cigarette or is it a different color? What color is the LED? I'm sorry that happened to you, I know it's frustrating.

 

[JSullivan]

That is exactly why I like the blue LED. Scold me will ya, bust out the BLU commercial and "put it out on my hand"

 

[jj2]

You'll get a nasty attitude about it at AirTran, and most other places, at the Atlantic Airport too.

 

[MsSki]

Didnt NJ pass a bill or law that puts Vaping on the same lines of smoking? Like if you cant smoke in a place ,you cant vape either? maybe im wrong but i thought i just read that last week.
Tara

 

[crazyfl3x]

Considering I go to AC two to three times a month, and the only place I stay is The Borgata, it's nice to hear that with the exception of the ignorant dealer, you've had no problems.

I haven't had the chance to go this month, and I just got my e-Cig 2 weeks ago...looks like I'll have to bust out my e-Cig every chance I get while I'm there.

On a side note, if how she told you to stop was "Sir, you can't smoke here. Please stop smoking." you should have then said "Okay, I won't smoke." and then you should have taken another puff

 

[Furius]

Does your ecig look like a cigarette or is it a different color? What color is the LED? I'm sorry that happened to you, I know it's frustrating.

At this particular time my LED was orange and it was smoking a supermini that was a dead ringer for a cigarette. I will definitely go Blue LED next time, but I just thought I would explain it away if I had any trouble (which I hadn't up until that moment) but with how this dealer reacted and ignoring my attempts to communicate it really threw me for a loop. Atlantic City has always been a permissive town for me in the sense that if what you're doing has no affect on the take or the customers betting money, than you could do whatever you wanted and I apparently bumped into the one dealer in all of Atlantic City that needed to chill out like everyone else around her.

 

[Skully7780]

To be fair I honestly think the woman dealer mistook my ecig for a real cigarette at a non smoking craps table, however when I tried to desperately explain myself she ignored me.

This pretty much sums it up. Your on a non smoking table at a casino. A lot of the people around will not know if your cig is real or not and may just wander on by if they see you vaping. (hurting the dealers tips)

You should however not have been barked at and I would have complained to guest services. (FREE STUFF GUARANTEED!)

 

[Furius]

Considering I go to AC two to three times a month, and the only place I stay is The Borgata, it's nice to hear that with the exception of the ignorant dealer, you've had no problems.

I haven't had the chance to go this month, and I just got my e-Cig 2 weeks ago...looks like I'll have to bust out my e-Cig every chance I get while I'm there.

On a side note, if how she told you to stop was "Sir, you can't smoke here. Please stop smoking." you should have then said "Okay, I won't smoke." and then you should have taken another puff

You shouldn't have any problems at all. When I first showed up I was real nervous to start smoking it near the hotel elevators so I busted out the blue LED and all it resulted in was one smiling security guard ask me "How is that workin' for ya?". Everyone was really nice, and even when I got the orange LED out most people simply ignored me because its one of the rare places where everyone is so relaxed that people logically think to themselves "Well, I don't smell smoke and I'm not coughing so whatever..." Thats why this whole event really caught me off guard because of all the times I've been going to Atlantic City, I have done far worse on the casino floor than smoked an ecig and no one even batted an eye lash.
You are gonna have a great time with your ecig. This one event didn't out way how cool everyone else was with it.

 

[Furius]

Didnt NJ pass a bill or law that puts Vaping on the same lines of smoking? Like if you cant smoke in a place ,you cant vape either? maybe im wrong but i thought i just read that last week.
Tara

I did hear about this law, which is why I was kind nervous when I tested the water by vaping in areas where you couldn't smoke. The reception I received was warm and no one said a word to me. It really seems like the Casinos can do whatever they want and they try to accommodate everyone as best they can. For instance if a noticeable number of people complained about my offensive ecig they would have enforced said law and told me to go to a smoking area, however they figure if most people around me don't have a problem, then they don't either. Up until I reached the surly dealer everyone was cool. And this dealer really didn't look like she kept up with stuff like that. Honestly I think she was just ...... off and decided to take it out on me because she had to have known when she saw me stuff the ecig in my front pocket that I wasn't smoking a cigarette and instead of saying "Oh I'm sorry sir, I thought that was a cigarette, go right ahead" like any other thoughtful person, she decided to dig in and not give me an ounce of satisfaction.

 

[Furius]

This pretty much sums it up. Your on a non smoking table at a casino. A lot of the people around will not know if your cig is real or not and may just wander on by if they see you vaping. (hurting the dealers tips)

You should however not have been barked at and I would have complained to guest services. (FREE STUFF GUARANTEED!)

I promise you, hurting the dealer's tips my ecig was not. My and my buddy watch a craps table for quite a bit before we decide to put our money down. This table was full of stingy misers and even after seeing a few players make some nice money, they didn't throw the dealer a damn thing. That is until me, my ecig, and my "I like to tip dealers" drunken buddy stepped up. The first thing he did when he got up to the table and got a point rolled back was tip the dealers. And pretty much every bet after that he was throwing them something. This went on for a half hour before miss surly took out her rage on me. And its not like she was the only dealer there. There were Pit Bosses and 3 other dealers at the table not saying a word. She literally stopped the fun to yell at me, it was behavior I have never seen from a Casino employee in all my years of going to Atlantic City. Even the other players kind of looked dumbfounded at the outburst. Casino dealers are usually the coolest people in the world, the only rules they enforce are the Casinos game rules like "Don't touch the cards" and so on.

Conversation should have went like this. "Oh sorry sir, this is a non smoking table", "I understand, but see, this isn't a cigarette. Its actually a vaporizer that helped me quit smoking tobacco, see nothing is on fire". "Ohhhh, that's pretty cool, well then no problem".
That is literally, verbatim, the interaction I have had in every hardcore non smoking establishment I have vaped in where I half expected them to say "I don't care what your smoking....just stop", but none of them did and they were so nice to me. This is even managers coming up to me in restaurants after getting complaints. Once they saw it wasn't a cigarette, they smiled and let me be. A Casino Dealer would have been the last employee I would have expected to get their panties in a bind over an ecig that aside from the visual aesthetics has next to nothing in common with a cigarette.

I did think about complaining but I figured the cool people so out way this one miserable person that I decided not to make a stink. Had it happened again, I absolutely would have.

 

[(So) Jersey Girl]

Didnt NJ pass a bill or law that puts Vaping on the same lines of smoking? Like if you cant smoke in a place ,you cant vape either? maybe im wrong but i thought i just read that last week.
Tara

The law goes into effect 60 days after signing, which was about a month ago, (although I also heard it was 180 days). The state wide smoking ban that was passed a number of years ago exempted the casinos in AC. The city then passed its own law banning smoking in the casinos, but then suspended the ban due to the negative impact it was having on the industry. To my knowledge, the casinos are the only indoor places where smoking is still allowed in the state, so e-cigs should be safe, but would only be allowed in smoking areas.