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Will be checking in to the hospital in few hours for testing they want me there 24 hours before, spinal cord inject me dye stuff, be in hospital til Saturday afternoon so orders might be a tad slow this weekend, I've have laptop, but rely on my useless help to pack stuff..

Well damn man, hope everything is OK..we'll be keeping ya in our thoughts and all that. :)

guess make sure i don't eat anything that screw up the tests... wonder if a candy striper counts.....lol

IMHO, they are usually quite edible and a healthy part of any diet. ;)

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Get well soon mate!!!
 

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Thanks for info, I do appreciate the honest information... I do use a lot of 3 ohm boge single coils, but I don't like to take my lavatube with me to work, I'm an in-home service tech, so I'm constantly driving in the car, and occasionally in some not so nice neighborhoods where my car could get broken into at any moment, not to mention I don't like the idea of 18650 batteries sitting in my car when it gets really hot (or cold) out. So I prefer my Ego-C Twist while on the go, and in my opinion SR cartos are just ok on it. It needs a bit more power to be great (in my opinoin), hence while I still use LR cartos for my on the go vape. And the atty's I stocked up on when I visited Juicy Vapors store, were the LR as that's all they had in stock, and I was tired of popping coils on the cheap $5 ones I was getting online. Next atomizer purchase will probably be an HH and I can get those in higher ohms. But before I spend $20 an atty, I want to make sure I'm not going to pop them in a month like the other ones. I'll probably just stick with switching out for the v2 lavatube. The 1.5 has been working with no problems for me, so why fix what isn't broke.... Again, appreciate your honest insight into the device and whether it would be a compatible device for my current vape needs!

Now I agree with you completely with using like maybe a 2.0 ohm Boge on the eGo twist. It just doesn't have anything close to 5 amps coming out of it. I would "maybe" even do that if it didn't do the job at 4.3-4.8 volts with a 3 ohm Boge....just maybe. But the VMAX is a whole different device. Alot of people are putting 1.7 ohm and popping coils , burning filler, .... putting on 1.25 ohm DC's and wondering why the F1 code pops up, when the instructions clearly state any single coil below 1.3 ohms will trigger the F1 code. I haven't bought 1 low res anything since I bought my 1st multi-volt Fistpak over a year ago. I think juices taste a lot better without having a underlying scorched or burnt taste and using a Boge 801 Fusion 3.0 ohm carto or my new DiD R.A. Tank with a 3.2 ohm coil wrap at 4.1v on my VMAX's, my juices have never tasted so good. (ofcourse my opinion)
 

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Now I agree with you completely with using like maybe a 2.0 ohm Boge on the eGo twist. It just doesn't have anything close to 5 amps coming out of it. I would "maybe" even do that if it didn't do the job at 4.3-4.8 volts with a 3 ohm Boge....just maybe. But the VMAX is a whole different device. Alot of people are putting 1.7 ohm and popping coils , burning filler, .... putting on 1.25 ohm DC's and wondering why the F1 code pops up, when the instructions clearly state any single coil below 1.3 ohms will trigger the F1 code. I haven't bought 1 low res anything since I bought my 1st multi-volt Fistpak over a year ago. I think juices taste a lot better without having a underlying scorched or burnt taste and using a Boge 801 Fusion 3.0 ohm carto or my new DiD R.A. Tank with a 3.2 ohm coil wrap at 4.1v on my VMAX's, my juices have never tasted so good. (ofcourse my opinion)

If you need 5 amps, you're going to burn your throat out and pop whatever cart you're using no matter what resistance you are using. To draw 5 amps on a 3.2 ohm cart, you'd have to put almost 16 volts through it. Ohm's law. Your 3.2 ohm, 4.1 volt config uses 1.28 amps to provide the power. Most any VV will do that and more. More likely, you've found a great juice/cart/voltage for you, but at those settings, it sounds like a very cool vape.
 

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Also, drawing anything more than 2.5 amps will probably kill your carts, kill your batteries over time, and taste pretty bad. That's why people are popping 1.7ohm carts. They are using devices that don't regulate and pumping up the voltage to 5.5-6, which would require more than 3 amps. Blammo.

To use your example of a 3.2ohm cart running at 4.1 volts, you are using around 5.25 watts to power the cart. That same wattage applied to a 2 ohm cart would only require about 3.25 volts to get the same exact vapor. The same, if the other variables (build quality, filler, etc) are the same. Making that assumption, and it's a big one considering recent events, you could drop to 2.0 ohms, save some battery life maybe, and have the same experience. That's not opinion, it's math. Warning people off 1.7s on the VMax doesn't do Andrew any favors (bread and butter time) and dissuades people from having an awesome, consistent vaping experience at lower voltages.
 
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Also, drawing anything more than 2.5 amps will probably kill your carts, kill your batteries over time, and taste pretty bad. That's why people are popping 1.7ohm carts. They are using devices that don't regulate and pumping up the voltage to 5.5-6, which would require more than 3 amps. Blammo.

To use your example of a 3.2ohm cart running at 4.1 volts, you are using around 5.25 watts to power the cart. That same wattage applied to a 2 ohm cart would only require about 3.25 volts to get the same exact vapor. The same, if the other variables (build quality, filler, etc) are the same. Making that assumption, and it's a big one considering recent events, you could drop to 2.0 ohms, save some battery life maybe, and have the same experience. That's not opinion, it's math. Warning people off 1.7s on the VMax doesn't do Andrew any favors (bread and butter time) and dissuades people from having an awesome, consistent vaping experience at lower voltages.

I pretty much agree with what you said, except it's wattage (power) that pops coils, a 1.7 ohm coil at 3.7 volts is 2.2 amps, that equates to 8.05 watts.
While at 5 volts your lookin at 14.7 watts. This is the same reason light bulbs pop when the electricity company messes up and your voltage is too high.

Sorry, I'm just and electricity junky and couldnt resist (ha ha).

One more thing, a 3 ohm coil has more surface area than a 1.7 or 2 ohm coil, so while the wattage maybe the same at 3.7v with 1.7ohm as 5v at 3ohm there is more coil surface in contact with juice so more vapor is produced.
That's why I love vv and highly recommend it, and getting your stuff from CCV.
 
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I pretty much agree with what you said, except it's wattage (power) that pops coils, a 1.7 ohm coil at 3.7 volts is 2.2 amps, that equates to 8.05 watts.
While at 5 volts your lookin at 14.7 watts. This is the same reason light bulbs pop when the electricity company messes up and your voltage is too high.

Sorry, I'm just and electricity junky and couldnt resist (ha ha).

One more thing, a 3 ohm coil has more surface area than a 1.7 or 2 ohm coil, so while the wattage maybe the same at 3.7v with 1.7ohm as 5v at 3ohm there is more coil surface in contact with juice so more vapor is produced.
That's why I love vv and highly recommend it, and getting your stuff from CCV.

Exactly, my electrically bent friend. :) that's why, when Jeremy is vaping an anemic-sounding 5 watts and change setup, I'm wondering why he's warning people off 1.7 ohm. He's the example of a person who Should be using them, for a nice, pleasant throat hit at 3.7 volts of 8 watts and change.

The surface area discussion is trickier. You could achieve the same resistance by thinning the wire as well, which would lessen the surface area. Either way, I would think the difference in vapor production would be minimal. That's opinion, and I know many would disagree. We'd have to tear one apart to find out. At that point, I'm ready to let Jeremy smoke whatever the hell he wants if it does the job.

Jeremy - don't mean to use you as an example of anything at all, good or bad. As you can see, electricity guys can't help but over think this crap. :)

Smoke what ya like, brah.
 
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Will be checking in to the hospital in few hours for testing they want me there 24 hours before, spinal cord inject me dye stuff, be in hospital til Saturday afternoon so orders might be a tad slow this weekend, I've have laptop, but rely on my useless help to pack stuff..

guess make sure i don't eat anything that screw up the tests... wonder if a candy striper counts.....lol

Take care, Good Luck and I hope you can stealth vape.
 

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There where rumors of changes,,,but my rep at smoktech says no, personally haven't been to the line to see for myself,,lol

In reference to the resurrectors, I am now convinced there was a change... the filler seems to behave the same but there is a very different taste that impacts the juice I feel... still hit strong but especially on lighter juices, the filler doesn't taste too good... Also you only need compare the bottom air hole and air channels to see they are different sizes indicating they changed the design... Bummer.. Ill be switching to the boges from CCV I suppose... not the same strong hit nor longevity, but better flavor...
 

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In reference to the resurrectors, I am now convinced there was a change... the filler seems to behave the same but there is a very different taste that impacts the juice I feel... still hit strong but especially on lighter juices, the filler doesn't taste too good... Also you only need compare the bottom air hole and air channels to see they are different sizes indicating they changed the design... Bummer.. Ill be switching to the boges from CCV I suppose... not the same strong hit nor longevity, but better flavor...

Oddly enough, the jumbo resurrectors taste great and behave themselves... we just need to develop end caps for tanks that are wider to accommodate them...
Why would smoketech change the filler in one and not the other? Very bizarre...
 

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I have been afraid to order more Resurrectors. Boges are good, but 2Ω on 3.7v just doesn't do it for me anymore.
The wife likes the 2Ω ST's and I'm kinda leary of ordering more of those for her. The complaints I've seen have died down lately, so was hoping things had gotten straightened out.
 
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