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Just getting some blood work tests and spinal tap thingy, best way to insure had nothing in the blood was to check in for 24 hours in advance of tests, that was last night round 7:30pm
Have you used a Vmax? Until yesterday I would have agreed with you. What's the point of having a VV unit it you can't vape anything you may have or want including LR units. BUT the Vmax isn't like any other VV unit I have, 9 total. It's output voltage may say 3v but it doesn't vape like three volts or any other setting. Vmax owners seem pretty pleased with this fact though I don't understand why. Personally want my VV units to have comparable vapes at whatever setting I choose.
That said I'll get to the point. After VAPNJ350 posted yesterday I pulled a 1.7ohm resurrector that I had filled the previous evening topped it off, set the Vmax at 3v and took a heavy draw of the most awfully burned taste I've ever experienced. I had been using the same carto on a LT so I know it was good prior to putting it on the Vmax.
Every vaporizer one puts on the Vmax is a test of where it will vape best. I'm using a 1.5 ohm DC Clearo on it now at 4.3v that I would have set a 5v on my other VV units strong enough to handle it.
Draw your own conclusions.
Errol
Have you used a Vmax? Until yesterday I would have agreed with you. What's the point of having a VV unit it you can't vape anything you may have or want including LR units. BUT the Vmax isn't like any other VV unit I have, 9 total. It's output voltage may say 3v but it doesn't vape like three volts or any other setting. Vmax owners seem pretty pleased with this fact though I don't understand why. Personally want my VV units to have comparable vapes at whatever setting I choose.
That said I'll get to the point. After VAPNJ350 posted yesterday I pulled a 1.7ohm resurrector that I had filled the previous evening topped it off, set the Vmax at 3v and took a heavy draw of the most awfully burned taste I've ever experienced. I had been using the same carto on a LT so I know it was good prior to putting it on the Vmax.
Every vaporizer one puts on the Vmax is a test of where it will vape best. I'm using a 1.5 ohm DC Clearo on it now at 4.3v that I would have set a 5v on my other VV units strong enough to handle it.
Draw your own conclusions.
Errol
Wow, I really don't know what to conclude from that. Was your 1.7 at 3v test a hot burnt taste or just a burnt taste? Sounds like you should have received flavored air, not warm vapor from that low a setting. Weird.
On another note, I received my kicked BAM today and lemme tell you, a resurrector at 8.5 watts is Amazing. Variable Wattage is the future, boys and girls. 4 different carts with four different resistance levels, same wattage, and perfect vapor every time. Very nice.
Wow, I really don't know what to conclude from that. Was your 1.7 at 3v test a hot burnt taste or just a burnt taste? Sounds like you should have received flavored air, not warm vapor from that low a setting. Weird.
On another note, I received my kicked BAM today and lemme tell you, a resurrector at 8.5 watts is Amazing. Variable Wattage is the future, boys and girls. 4 different carts with four different resistance levels, same wattage, and perfect vapor every time. Very nice.
I agree variable wattage is a true way to scale up or down the vaping curve. I'm back , got good news chrome v2 be here Monday, I love my VMAX 4.0volts 1.5 dct roxz, but wattage is best measure because it is constant across the board, with voltage you got amperage that comes into play to make 1 4 volt device differ from another 4volt device, but if it was based on wattage instead of voltage then 2 devices would preform almost identical set on same wattage. The Darwin if wasn't such an uglys or so poorly built would be the ideal device.
talkin bout that flimsy hinge thing
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Actually Andrew kinda AGREES with me on this one due to his very own experience everytime he put a 1.7 ohm on his VMAX at 3.5 volts it was AWFUL, just burnt juice. Im never going to be that guy that tells people what they want to hear, I call it like it is, nothing more, nothing less. Blunt honesty has served me pretty well for 35 years. Im wondering if you actually own a VMAX?? If you don't then their is no way you could know what Im referring to. Trust me when I say the VMAX IS different. The regular rules DO NOT apply here. If you get one you'll see exactly what I mean and many others already know and love.
Glad you made it back cmdr. Hope everything turned out for the best. I will place my order for the SS Vmax this evening sir.
After hearing from others, I have to humbly apologize Jeremy. Apparently, the VMax is much different than I had imagined, but I gotta ask - if you line up 5 devices and put the same cart on each one and get more or less the same vape with, let's say plus or minus a half volt adjustment, then you put it in the VMax and it burns at a full volt and a half LESS, not more than what turns out to be your sweet spot for that cart, what does that say to you? No sarcasm there, I'm honestly confused.
Anyway, I shall not doubt you again. You and others have obviously dialed these in to perfection.
Welcome back, sir.
It would be great if you were a kick dealer. They work great in the Bolt. Probably a lot of hoops to jump through, but it would bring a lot of business to the site.
ROFL Great pic. I'm gay an I think I might even tap that.Well damn man, hope everything is OK..we'll be keeping ya in our thoughts and all that.
IMHO, they are usually quite edible and a healthy part of any diet.
Get well soon mate!!!
Vmax is different cause it uses pulse width modulation stuff an actually peaks at way more power then you set it to, so it get's allot hotter, but turns itself off of like a bunch of times a second so it emulates the actual voltage by how many times it pulses the power. I think I explained that correctly if I didn't please feel free to correct my explanation. Pbusardo has a great video on it that explains it in detail. I realy would like one myself but alas the fact that is uses stack batteries is a deal breaker for me. So just ordered a Legacy from puresmoker they were designed just for the KICK, an damn are there super sexy. But I will defently be getting all my carts an bats from CCV they got the best prices an costumer service around.
After hearing from others, I have to humbly apologize Jeremy. Apparently, the VMax is much different than I had imagined, but I gotta ask - if you line up 5 devices and put the same cart on each one and get more or less the same vape with, let's say plus or minus a half volt adjustment, then you put it in the VMax and it burns at a full volt and a half LESS, not more than what turns out to be your sweet spot for that cart, what does that say to you? No sarcasm there, I'm honestly confused.
Anyway, I shall not doubt you again. You and others have obviously dialed these in to perfection.
Not a problem brotha, I'm an electrical engineer by trade for years, I know exactly what your talking about but the VMAX truly is a whole different ballgame. The anemic vape you speak of that I vape actually is more like a 2.0 ohm boge at 4.5v on any other device that the standard rules do apply to. I get more vapor, more flavor and more everything than I ever have with all my other devices. All in all....I will not buy another device. I have found what I was lookin for....and am completely content for once. Take some time one day and stop over at the VMAX thread, you'll see exactly what Im talkin about. Take care brotha.
K, I walked in here in the middle of something, but I've gotta say, with a vv device, the key word for me is 'variable'. I use MOSTLY 1.7ohm Smoktech single coils on my lavatube/vtube/vv tube (again, we're talking restricted to 2.5amps) and it is an ideal vape for me around the 4.4-4.5v mark. I tend to vastly prefer that over say a boge 3.0 at 6v... feels different, throat hit is different. I don't feel the need to 'push' those cartos to 5 or 5.5v, cause again, yeah, popping cartos. I couldn't on my device anyway cause of the low amp restriction, but I am incredibly satisfied with them in the mid voltages. I do have to say it pushes my buttons a little bit when people say nothing under 3-4ohms should be used on vv... if I felt that way, Id have gotten a fixed 6v device and been done with it. I don't WANT to vape at 6v, necessarily, and the 1.7ohm resurrector allows me to vape and be incredibly satisfied at 4.4ishv. That's my preference, anyway. BUT I will say that it confuses the heck out of new people when people drop blanket statements like 'you can't/shouldn't vape low res on vv' or 'you can't vape dual coils on 2.5amp restricted vv'. Those sort of blanket generalizations really do mess them up. You most assuredly CAN on both of those counts. The only thing you CAN'T do is vape any ohm carto at the full range of voltages, unless you get those 4ohms. That's the joy of vv right there... variable vape for your preference. You just need a competent explanation of which range of voltages work best with hardware at each resistance. That's why I'm constantly sending new vv vapers to see Phil Busardo's lavatube review, as he explains it very well. AND of course with these higher amp restriction devices, you can't PUSH cartos to their very highest limit... that's just foolish. Idea is to be able to find sweetspot for you with a particular carto, and within the ideals for the hardware. Higher amps affect the vape as well, so even if you're not vaping cartos at the highest end of their tolerance within the amp limitation, you're still getting a nicer vape out of it. K... just my 2 cents.
And just to be clear... I'm talking about vv devices restricted to 2.5-4amps. I don't know what goes on with a vmax... never tried one. My caveat is just be careful with blanket statements because there are always new vapers hanging out who get confused unless you've very very specific. Ya'll don't know how many times I've had to convince a new person it was ok to vape 2ohm dual coils on a device like a vv tube (up to a certain voltage) because they've been told my 6 other people that 'you can't vape dual coils on a lavatube'. Grr... makes me crazy. lol Then you get a new vaper with an apocalypse supply of 2ohm dual coils thinking he has no choice but to scrap em, and buy a ton of 3.5ohm cartos. So clearly NOT the reality, and ends up costing them a ton of money, unnecessarily, and a lot of frustration. We lose new vapers to frustration and high cost in the beginning, so that's something Im always very aware of. There are lurkers lurking and learning, so just keep that in mind. rofl
And Andrew... hope everything is ok! And yeah, guessing a steady diet of candy stripers won't hurt. lol I was a candy striper in high school. Frilly short pink and white jumper with a white peasant top? Paleese... clearly we were only there for the eye candy and general cheer up factor. rofl
And just to be clear... I'm talking about vv devices restricted to 2.5-4amps. I don't know what goes on with a vmax... never tried one. My caveat is just be careful with blanket statements because there are always new vapers hanging out who get confused unless you've very very specific. Ya'll don't know how many times I've had to convince a new person it was ok to vape 2ohm dual coils on a device like a vv tube (up to a certain voltage) because they've been told my 6 other people that 'you can't vape dual coils on a lavatube'. Grr... makes me crazy. lol Then you get a new vaper with an apocalypse supply of 2ohm dual coils thinking he has no choice but to scrap em, and buy a ton of 3.5ohm cartos. So clearly NOT the reality, and ends up costing them a ton of money, unnecessarily, and a lot of frustration. We lose new vapers to frustration and high cost in the beginning, so that's something Im always very aware of. There are lurkers lurking and learning, so just keep that in mind. rofl
And Andrew... hope everything is ok! And yeah, guessing a steady diet of candy stripers won't hurt. lol I was a candy striper in high school. Frilly short pink and white jumper with a white peasant top? Paleese... clearly we were only there for the eye candy and general cheer up factor. rofl
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@orachel - very well said, and precisely why I steer newbs to the LT if they've got their heart set on VV, and a regular tube mod with a kick if they don't know anything. Screw whatever you got onto the top, start at 3v (or 5w), and turn it up till nirvana kicks in. Takes 15 minutes and you never have to think about it ever again. Change juice or carts? Rinse and repeat. Everything else is white noise, really. Find your sweet spot and you're done.
Bolt, VMax, BAM, fine Italian pipe fitting-looking things - they all come down to finding your sweet spot.
Bolt, VMax, BAM, fine Italian pipe fitting-looking things - they all come down to finding your sweet spot.
I see your point to an extent on some of that, Im from back in the day years ago when LR was actually meant, designed, and intended for 3.7 volt devices to "simulate" a 5 volt vape. In my posts I refer to 'single coil" LR . I don't see or think of DC's as a LR anything because they have 2 higher ohm coils ran in parallel. A 2.0 ohm DC has 2 , 4 ohm coils that would run fine on a VV anything really cause the device sees 2, 4 ohm coils not necessarily just the 2.0 ohm load, it splits the power to both coils giving a cooler more mellow vape unlike a single coil LR. Any VV device sold as a kit is usually sent with 2 , 3.2 ohm attys, not LR 2.0, or 1.7,1.5 etc....3.2ohm , primarily because thats the prerferred ohm to be able to use the "entire" range safely and respectively from 3-6 volts without running into error codes or the device reaching it's amp limit and dialing itself back even though you have it set to 5 volts. Because of the PWM in the VMAX I highly recommend NOT using LR anything on it unless you like that lovely burnt taste at every voltage. ""Excluding 1.5 ohm DC's and up."" I hope this is better understood this time around.
oh yeah, totally. lol Of course if the vape is wholly un-good on something as low as 1.7s with the type of wattage you're dealing with on a vmax that would be a no go. Goal is not to set your throat on fire, of course. lol So funny, but as often as I've run into the vv vaper with burned taste (doesn't happen that often on the 2.5amp regulated devices) I've 10x as often run into the guy who keeps frying ego batteries using 1.5ohm dual coils to simulate the stronger 5v ish vape. lol Its a crapshoot, for sure! I personally am NOT a fan of smoktech dual coils... don't know why, I just am not fond of the vape at any ohms with em. But so many people are, and I'm always having to do the dance of 'yeah, you can use dual coils, of course, but what they meant when they said 'no dual coils with 2.5amp vv vaping' that is that its not ideal with 1.25-1.5ohm dual coils because you can't vape out of the 3s in terms of voltage' dance. lol I'd say that's half the explanations I have to get into with new vv vapers, just cause there IS so much misinformation floating around. And trust me.. this is my issue, not yours. Wasn't my intent to jump on you... You were fine. lol I just look at everything thru noob colored glasses cause I try to help out new vapers a bunch, and run into the same misconceptions so frequently. Personally, I'm REALLY of the mind that there is no 'magic bullet' carto that performs well at all voltages of any device. Even if you get up into the 3.5ohms... well yeah, they'll WORK at every voltage, but you won't find it very satisfying at lower voltages unless you like huffing air. Just a matter of finding what works for every individual person the best, I think. And clearly, as with most things in life, One size does not fit all.
Goal is not to set your throat on fire, of course. lol So funny, but as often as I've run into the vv vaper with burned taste (doesn't happen that often on the 2.5amp regulated devices) I've 10x as often run into the guy who keeps frying ego batteries using 1.5ohm dual coils to simulate the stronger 5v ish vape. lol Its a crapshoot, for sure! I personally am NOT a fan of smoktech dual coils... don't know why, I just am not fond of the vape at any ohms with em. But so many people are, and I'm always having to do the dance of 'yeah, you can use dual coils, of course, but what they meant when they said 'no dual coils with 2.5amp vv vaping' that is that its not ideal with 1.25-1.5ohm dual coils because you can't vape out of the 3s in terms of voltage' dance. lol I'd say that's half the explanations I have to get into with new vv vapers, just cause there IS so much misinformation floating around. And trust me.. this is my issue, not yours. Wasn't my intent to jump on you... You were fine. lol I just look at everything thru noob colored glasses cause I try to help out new vapers a bunch, and run into the same misconceptions so frequently. Personally, I'm REALLY of the mind that there is no 'magic bullet' carto that performs well at all voltages of any device. Even if you get up into the 3.5ohms... well yeah, they'll WORK at every voltage, but you won't find it very satisfying at lower voltages unless you like huffing air. Just a matter of finding what works for every individual person the best, I think. And clearly, as with most things in life, One size does not fit all. 
But, Jeremy, the VTube (LT) 1.5/1.5t and probably the 2.0 coming Monday all use PWM. As does the Joye eGo 3.4volt. And plenty of other VV APVs, like the Evercool mods. How does the VMAX's PWM differ? Why is it reputed to be so much hotter?
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