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[retired1]

i think it's a MB thing

It's a photobucket thing.

Photobucket & ECF & iPad (safari)

Has absolutely nothing to do with the size of the image or ECFs software. It's the way photobucket writes their URLs.

The image you're trying to link has a URL ending in html. This will not work with image tags. You need to right mouseclick on the image on photobucket and copy the image URL. THEN it'll work.

 

[DPLongo22]

September 4th...
September 4th...
September 4th...

...

What the HECK day is it again today?

Oh!

Oh, YEAH!!! NOW I remember!

(someone...)

 

[retired1]

I don't think he meant the rule rules.... but the technical differences. As he mentioned, that used to work and then it quit much like posting a url to a picture one day, then the next day if you use the same url which had an updated picture... the forum still uses the old picture ( from a cache ). Another one, the "users viewing" doesn't work and actually list the people that are there. There are a lot of these small glitches still in the forum that haven't be fixed or addressed.

No, there aren't any glitches. The purpose of caching the images is to save on bandwidth. The cache is refreshed periodically, but it's not going to be set to something that negates using it to begin with.

As for the Users who are viewing, this is working as designed. If someone closes their browser without logging out, they'll still be shown as looking at the thread because the software won't actually log the connection out until a period of time has passed.

Just because something doesn't work the way you think it should work doesn't mean it's broken.

 

[rdsok]

Good Morning Everyone...

 

[MoonLit_Water]

It's a photobucket thing.

Photobucket & ECF & iPad (safari)

Has absolutely nothing to do with the size of the image or ECFs software. It's the way photobucket writes their URLs.

The image you're trying to link has a URL ending in html. This will not work with image tags. You need to right mouseclick on the image on photobucket and copy the image URL. THEN it'll work.

Thanks for the link & info, gotta run off to work now,, but will check it all out later

 

[classwife]

@gormly

 

[AG51]

Happys Birfdays Eric Gormlys !

 

[rdsok]

No, there aren't any glitches. The purpose of caching the images is to save on bandwidth. The cache is refreshed periodically, but it's not going to be set to something that negates using it to begin with.

As for the Users who are viewing, this is working as designed. If someone closes their browser without logging out, they'll still be shown as looking at the thread because the software won't actually log the connection out until a period of time has passed.

Just because something doesn't work the way you think it should work doesn't mean it's broken.

NWS ( National Weather Service ) and other websites often use the same url for an image that is updated daily ( or more often ) for weather maps and other items... I understand the need for caching... but the design or implementation is still lacking for some very common cases such as the one I mentioned. Using static pages with only the images that are referenced being what's changed, is a common practice across the web still to this day.

The issue I mentioned for the Users who are viewing... are users that are still active, still clicking or posting, on the thread that are not being shown even when they are not set to invisible... I didn't mention about a user that left and was still listed until a certain time out is reached. I've often been on a thread, clicking likes or posting and was still not listed when another user posted a copy of the user list. I see myself listed, but the other people don't always show me in their lists.

The things I mentioned are not just things that are how I think they should work... they are things that have worked certain ways across the web for longer than this forum software has existed and were not taken into account on it's design. With server and web design experience of well over two decades, I understand that things need to change and improve... but I also know that long lasting standards and methods must not be overlooked or completely ignored.

 

[classwife]

and a thought here...if you have several widows open on forum threads, you will show in the one you are looking at - not in all the open ones.
So, if someone is thread hopping, you won't see them in the thread unless they actually are.

 

[oldbikeguy]

Good morning everyone

 

[oldbikeguy]

Happy Birthday Eric

 

[rdsok]

and a thought here...if you have several widows open on forum threads, you will show in the one you are looking at - not in all the open ones.
So, if someone is thread hopping, you won't see them in the thread unless they actually are.

And I'll add that they aren't shown as active in a thread until they actually click or do something there, just viewing it isn't an action... it's not just a matter of having the window open and active... but an action must be made even a simple page refresh should be enough.

 

[retired1]

NWS ( National Weather Service ) and other websites often use the same url for an image that is updated daily ( or more often ) for weather maps and other items... I understand the need for caching... but the design or implementation is still lacking for some very common cases such as the one I mentioned. Using static pages with only the images that are referenced being what's changed, is a common practice across the web still to this day.

The issue I mentioned for the Users who are viewing... are users that are still active, still clicking or posting, on the thread that are not being shown even when they are not set to invisible... I didn't mention about a user that left and was still listed until a certain time out is reached. I've often been on a thread, clicking likes or posting and was still not listed when another user posted a copy of the user list. I see myself listed, but the other people don't always show me in their lists.

The things I mentioned are not just things that are how I think they should work... they are things that have worked certain ways across the web for longer than this forum software has existed and were not taken into account on it's design. With server and web design experience of well over two decades, I understand that things need to change and improve... but I also know that long lasting standards and methods must not be overlooked or completely ignored.

Checking cached images for changes not only increases bandwidth, but also requires more queries to the DB. So for thousands of users who are looking at a thread, each user would trip a query to determine if there was a change to a posted image in the cache. Nope. Not going to happen. The cache is updated every 24 hours. For our purposes here at ECF, it's more than sufficient. Especially as the majority of the pages here are NOT static.

Users viewing a thread is not immediate. Nor is it accurate for various reasons, especially with those that have multiple tabs/windows open on ECF.

What you're claiming as a "standard" really isn't. It all depends on the type of page you're looking at and how it all works under the hood. Just because something works well for NWS doesn't mean the same practices are advisable or warranted in a busy forum setting.

 

[rdsok]

What you're claiming as a "standard" really isn't.

If a long used method is not a standard... what is... The example of NWS was just a single example of which there are many others and there is no need to list them all to explain a point and give an idea of what is being discussed to someone.

As for the what's considered active... you are obviously not reading what I posted.

 

[Maxedout]

Good Morning Everyone!

 

[Maxedout]

Happy Birthday Eric!

 

[Reddhott]

 

[Reddhott]

 

[Katdarling]

Enjoy your special day, Mr. Gormly!!!

 

[AG51]