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[gormly]

Eric, I will be totally honest as you have been with us. I'm pretty much set with my mods and about the only thing I will be purchasing for sure is Boge cartos. Now you have said these are a wash for you as far as profit and I can believe that by your prices. I will be trying some juice and that may become a future purchase as well, but I'm in love with my favorite juice vendor so that may be a tough sell for anyone to get me to switch, but for some reason I have high hopes for yours to become a staple for me.

Now here is what I want everyone here to think about. This country is going downhill rapidly with the influx of Wal-Mart and other don't give a damn about this country stores. We have to support our small American business man, Eric being a prime example. So Eric, as long as your prices are relatively comparable, then I am staying right here. I'm willing to pay slightly higher prices than other vendors even as long as I get great customer service and good products I can depend on. Eric provides this. I wish these were not made in China as that just eats me up, but until an American carto company comes along that can produce a carto to depend on, I have no choice.

Sorry for the soapbox but felt the need to say it.

Thanks for the support it is appreciated.

I am glad you have a good liquid supplier, if you do try mine, keep in mind that everything is flexible, some people ask for more/less flavor or tweaks, so anything is on the table there. I think I sell more "custom" than stock flavors LOL But it's all fun, I like doing the flavors, I have some misses but mostly it seems I have hits (unless people aren't telling me)

As for the China stuff I am right there with you. Burns me as well.
I will have a new product(s) coming out next week sometime (or at least announced) that will be American Made.
It may have some China parts in it, but the craftsmanship is all American.

I also have others working on items as well, obviously a bit more expensive but worth it.
I have also started a dialog with a company that *might* be able to help with the carto situation, but it's mostly a tool and die (? I think that's the term) problem, with mold and assembly being the biggest hurdle, nevertheless I am trying.

Like I said before, I have big plans

Once I get all the money/merchant thing figured out I'll be back to it.

 

[gormly]

I got my 2nd order from you today...opened the blackberry e-liquid...filled a clearo...SWOONED with happiness!

You do what you have to do, we'll be here.

P.S.- thank you so much for the blue cover

You know, I never thought I would like Blackberry and the first time I tried it I didn't like it but between that, Granny Apple and Pizza, I am truly in vape heaven. I also have a Pear that I have been testing that a customer asked me for and it's killer, it's so smooth and very nice after some strong blackberry

 

[Brutus Buckeye]

I like your moxy young man! I know you will get this figured out and glad I found you.

 

[Chopper71]

You know, I never thought I would like Blackberry and the first time I tried it I didn't like it but between that, Granny Apple and Pizza, I am truly in vape heaven. I also have a Pear that I have been testing that a customer asked me for and it's killer, it's so smooth and very nice after some strong blackberry

Your blackberry waffle is the best in my book.

 

[gormly]

Your blackberry waffle is the best in my book.

I know right Chopper? I have to release that.. It's on the list I swear!

 

[Briachas]

Eric, do what you have to do to survive. I'm with ya bro!

 

[Tom10]

Update

Hello all, in the many many hours of calling and contacting banks and merchant account suppliers it seems that almost everyone is either saying no or is charging huge fees.

To that end I wanted to poll you guys and gals.

It seems the prevailing rate for these generous people who have decided to accept ecig providers is about 8% per transaction plus a transaction fee plus a large monthly fee plus a large percentage hold (meaning they hold a large percentage back from payment for 60+ days)

In light of this, while I am enchoraged that I might be able to continue, knowing the fees are so high means I need to change my business model slightly. This means I wouldn't be able to offer my 5% discount for repeat customers and might have to raise prices a bit to cover the fees.

It boils down to about 14-15% per average order and in some cases I was making less than that as "profit" (reinvestment money) so unless I raise prices a bit after all is said and done, this will become a wash for me and I can't do this much work for nothing.

My question is this... is my service level and persona enough to keep you all with me? Even if prices are slightly higher?

Charging you these kinds of fees and holding back part of your money is highway robbery. Say NO THANKS and keep looking for something reasonable. Me paying 15% more is not a problem, but I hate to see hostage taking and robbery before a guy can do business. I could see them charge a reasonable fee of something like 5 to 7% - even this low is pretty ridiculous when you think about what little service they are providing - all electronically and automated.

 

[gormly]

Charging you these kinds of fees and holding back part of your money is highway robbery. Say NO THANKS and keep looking for something reasonable. Me paying 15% more is not a problem, but I hate to see hostage taking and robbery before a guy can do business. I could see them charge a reasonable fee of something like 5 to 7% - even this low is pretty ridiculous when you think about what little service they are providing - all electronically and automated.

Most merchants for all other businesses pay 1.5-2.5% with no hold or extra fees if that puts a little perspective on it

we are considered "High Risk" why, I do not know why, but it is what it is, until one company is left and they start making boat loads of money the others probably won't open back up.

 

[Bayemon]

This "high risk" stuff is just ridiculous... seriously. You are high risk...why? I am no lawyer and god knows theres more legal mumbo jumbo out there than a million lawyers could digest... but what does processing your monetary transactions have to do with a need to rake you over the coals for ridiculous fees, charges and holding your money. And they wonder why people HATE banks, HATE politics and HATE the ridiculous laws and regulations that surround our world. For your merchant right now to say "Oh, we have to hold your money because you are selling legal products" is just flat out unreal. They do this crap because they can... it is an absolute crime that these companies get away with this.

Eric, I say do what you need to do to get up and running again. Your prices will still be the best around bar none... and your service and credibility are already untouchable. You get going until you can find a better option... but for now DO IT! You have something substantial on track... do not let it get derailed. Good luck to any customer that thinks they will get something better elsewhere for a better price, becuase if you have to raise yours a bit you know a lot of other vendors will raise theirs a ton.

Um... and pear? Dude. You're killing me. I will be ordering that soon as you say it is open to the public...

 

[gormly]

New Flavors

Pear



CinnBerry



StrawNilla Smoothie



If you try them, PLEASE let me know what you think

 

[Urge]

I must have missed something, what is the deal with the credit card processors? They can just arbitrarily decide that one category of business must pay significantly higher fees because why? I don't get it. Eric, what about a two tiered system where if you pay by check or money order you get the current price and using a credit card would result in a higher price? I wouldn't have a problem sending you money orders. My wife and I have a small business (a doggy daycare) and we don't take credit cards and all of our customers have adapted to that.

Urge

 

[gormly]

They can just arbitrarily decide that one category of business must pay significantly higher fees because why?
Urge

The why is due to the nature of the business, I would imagine they are leery of ecigs for all the same reasons we are, the FDA, big tobacco, all the laws being passed by the clueless. They do not want to get stuck with charge backs I assume.

The need for a CC processor is paramount to the functioning of my business, at one point last month I was processing up to 40 orders a day, that is just way too many to do manually with the time I have. As far as two tiered pricing, I don't think that would be fair to customers who would like to pay via the easiest and fastest method. Plus if it ended up 50/50 in sales I would get hit with low volume fee's (yep, they have those also) and if I do not stay above a certain line I can be terminated for lack of volume. That doesn't mean I won't consider it, that's just my first non investigated opinion.

It's kind of a nightmare in a sense. The only right way to do it is calculate the cost of doing business and set my prices accordingly, adapt so to speak. I still plan on having the lowest price if possible.

 

[taterbugg]

Hey Eric, with the way you conduct yourself, and your business, I'm sure most of us will stick by you as long as you stick around. I could go on, but I'd just be repeating what everyone is saying! Besides, it sounds like this will effect all the vendors across the board, so I'm sure all will have to reflect that in their prices, so you can raise yours, and still beat em all hands down! Anyways, do what you have to do brother, as far as I'm concerned, you set the standard, I'm sitll behind you!
By the way, got that sample of the Popcorn juice......WOWSERS! it's awesome man, I need more of that! Got the big bottles yet?

 

[cleolove]

I think the thing that makes Eric stand out is not only his out front honesty, but he would not react to this in the same way most vendors would. They would say "Oh, a 15% raise, lets take this opportunity to raise our (already overbloated) prices 25% and blame it on the situation" ... So as taterbugg states, you will still be the lowest priced out there.

Like you are constantly reminding us, Eric, we all see you as a friend, and I am fiercely loyal to my friends, as I think most people around here would nod and say "Me, too"

We'll be here when you get it all worked out, don't worry about that!

Peace,
cleo

 

[gormly]

Hey Eric, with the way you conduct yourself, and your business, I'm sure most of us will stick by you as long as you stick around. I could go on, but I'd just be repeating what everyone is saying! Besides, it sounds like this will effect all the vendors across the board, so I'm sure all will have to reflect that in their prices, so you can raise yours, and still beat em all hands down! Anyways, do what you have to do brother, as far as I'm concerned, you set the standard, I'm sitll behind you!
By the way, got that sample of the Popcorn juice......WOWSERS! it's awesome man, I need more of that! Got the big bottles yet?

Lol thanks.

About the popcorn.. yikes, great quick seller (like the tobacco) I don't have much left but I do have half of what I need to make more, the other half is on the way. I can make several bottles of 30 / 45ml but nothing bigger.

Curious, did you get the peanut taste at first?

 

[lilith555]

Wepay was very very easy to use! Thanks for not giving up!

 

[Corncob]

What cartomizers and/or clearomizers sold at DV are compatible with the 5ml Tank Parts - Tube & End Caps for ecig Tanks?

 

[kimsark]

I'm in with you Eric. You're an honest business man and those are hard to come by these days. Besides, you're practically in my neighborhood and I love getting my stuff within days of placing the order.

Do what you have to do and make sure you make the right decision for you.

 

[taterbugg]

Lol thanks.

About the popcorn.. yikes, great quick seller (like the tobacco) I don't have much left but I do have half of what I need to make more, the other half is on the way. I can make several bottles of 30 / 45ml but nothing bigger.

Curious, did you get the peanut taste at first?

No, I wouldn't say a nutty taste. It's just a popcorny taste. I'd say a little more like kettle corn though. Definitely not like buttery or sweet. I know I really like it. And I'm normally not big on the 'exotic' type flavors. A few toots here and there, but usually I like my tobacco flavs, but yeah, I zipped through that whole sample real quick!

 

[Corncob]

Agreed, the popcorn is .....in. Ton of throat hit for me and kind of a 'dry' quality (the hit, not the taste) that really gave me a lung-full. I like. I tasted some peanut on the first few hits, but it was still delicious so it didn't take much faith to keep vaping. After 5 hits or so, I forgot about the peanut and it was all popcorn goodness.