Also for those wondering...
there is a Steel CE3 tank coming out, some other company is branding it as a bird, but it's just a CE3 in a tank. It's had issues and it's been delayed, it's not a "shipping" problem. It will be here when it is fixed and ready.
I have another vendor friend getting the sample of the fixed one in, when we are both satisfied it passes muster we will get them. The first sample three weeks ago was crap.
Oddly enough this vendor friend ask this company if they could put a steel CE3 that they were making in a tank, and low and behold, they did and sent him the first sample. Is this a coincidence that some other company designed it first and my friend just happened to ask for this exact very same thing at the same time?
I guess it's a mystery![]()
I watched a really good program on CNBC called Cyber Espionage, the Chinese Threat. I learned that the Chinese government encourages finding out trade secrets. I don't think they have the same concept of intellectual property as we do.
This is the whole show.

