Are these Vision Mini Novas or made by someone else? I thought the innards were interchangeable with the Vision Vivi Nova.
Ok so here's the question I have been dreading to answer. Not because of the manufacturer but because of "Vision".
From what I know Vision is not a manufacturer, they are a assembler/packer. They assemble and pack items ordered from manufacturers with their branding. I recently found this out from other sources, two I highly trust, others incidental. I could have the wrong information
I do not know for sure.
This is
not to suggest Vision isn't superior because they have a knack for getting the right parts together. Their brand is a good brand. That said, it is becoming increasingly clear based on the test orders and samples I get from other vendors that the products they make are not unique, take for example the Thor, identical to the Vision except for the V etched branding. I have received other "CE5" samples and they too are identical.
So when you ask me if the Mini Vivi Nova is from Vision, while I have to say no to be honest, I can say the people I get it from are using high quality parts no different than Vision. I believe HealthCabin sells non Vision Mini Vivi's but not sure, it's name is not in their description, where it is on other products and I know a lot of vendors rebuy from them. I think LD
might have agreed with this?
(don't quote me, I'm tired) So I am not the only one in this particular case.
So there you have it, if you are buying based on brand, I completely understand, but from my viewpoint there is no difference.
Now don't get me wrong there are copycats and some of their product is shoddy, but I do not sell that kind of product, or at least I try very hard not to.
Some of you may recall my slight issues with Vision as of late, well it turns out they read this very thread and are now completely angry with me
So be it, I am honest to a fault. I am not about to be a kiss-... to anyone, ever. But if they get over their offence I'll be glad to continue to buy from them. (hint hint Max)
This isn't to say I won't have Vision branded products because I will, just not sure I'll be getting them directly
from Vision and that's a shame, it started off so well
I WANT to order from Vision, but I cannot wait 30+ days for an on time order, it's just not feasible.
On to the confusing nature of this business. LD was kind enough to spend some time with me tonight via Skype cam and we went over some of the differences in versions, types, head and plastics used in the various Visions, Novas and eGos. Believe me at points in the conversation we were BOTH completely confused. Some heads fit some versions, some do not, some center posts are short, some are tall, some heads have conical cones, some do not and we were trying really really hard to get a grip on it. I think we kinda did in the end.
so a big thanks goes to LD for helping us all on the ever increasing confusion of the new prodiucts and versions coming out.
From what I know:
The Mini Vivi's that I have has a long post and a short head, which will not work with my universal heads because it's just a tad too small. I tried one and it didn't leak or anything but it did not thread all the way on, so that's not ideal. The Vivi Novas, the Thors and the Visions will all take the universal heads and all parts between the Vision 2.0 and Thor are interchangeable, so a blue drip tip I bought from the Thor makers is A-OK on a Vision and vice versa.
I am going to try my best to keep the confusion to a minimum, so for example I will be buying the Mini Nova heads from the same place to ensure they fit on what I sell.
I like the Mini Vivi better than the full sized Vivi, so it may be worth checking out. 
