Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3 *PART 2*

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ScandaLeX

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Sorry. I wasn't keeping up properly. Happens late night for me!



My problem with the Radius pin was I would get an OP reading and would have to use a screwdriver to fiddle with the pin, I never had that output problem. That's an issue all right. It's so hard to send one back though and have to do without. Hopefully they'll be mercifully quick for you.
Once I send my stuff off I wont be in a massive hurry to have it rushed back to me. I just want everything back working as it should. Got enough mods to keep me occupied while I wait.
 

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You have to buy them on your own, unless you send it in. I shouldn't say that, I'm just assuming that's how one would get a new one from ProVape. The size is 004 ProVape uses silicone but CS told me Buna is acceptable. I know longer have the link to the site on Amazon that CS sent me as I bought 100 of them.

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Thank you, Gin.

99 of your 100 klosest buds. ;)

Looks like I bought these same o-rings. Here is a link to them on Amazon.
004 Buna-N O-Ring, 70A Durometer, Black, 5/64" ID, 13/64" OD, 1/16" Width (Pack of 100): O Ring Seals: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

ETA: Looks like Astro has already posted a link - apologies for the duplication.
 

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But here's the sad part- I just got a P3 so it should still be new. I've been messing with the height thing since day one. :shock:
This issue makes the P3 so unreliable that I'd be a fool to carry it out in the street with me cause there's never no telling how long it'll work without having to make adjustments.

What I also dislike with a passion is the error message is misleading. 'Output too high or too low'....so here you are trying to figure out if the coil went bad or your watts/volts are too high when it has nothing to do with either! It's that damn pin so now the most reliable PV on the market suddenly isnt! :(

You know I had never given it much thought, but I had always assumed that the occasional connection problem I've experienced was because of the atomizer and not my Provari's (all of them). Lately I've gotten to where I only use a kayfun V4 on any of my Provari devices and the center pin is just a screw that can easily be turn just by putting your fingertip on the screw head and turning. I had thought that the simple action of screwing the atomizer onto the Provari was making the center screw go back up into the KFV4. I'd get a connection error, remove Kayfun back out screw 1/4 turn and put it back on the Provari and all is good.

This happened with all of my Provari's and I have a P3 Celtic Knot, a 2015 Classic, and a 2.5 slant top. Of course with the slant top I wouldn't get an error message, it just wouldn't fire. The slant top uses a 510 connection, and the others use a P3 connection. Also I may add that this wasn't something that happens very frequently either, just every couple of months for each device. So this is why I thought the problem was the screw and not the Provari center pin. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but it's not something I really worry about.


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It's doing it right now...probably cause I was talking about it. :confused:

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What atty? I get that from time to time but it's never the P3. I usually find a loose deck screw causing changing ohms. If it happens on RBA's that's what I would check first before blaming the mod as the loose screw, even if it's slight, will cause ohms to increase. As the coil gets hot the connection gets looser, ohms go up, and you get output too high as you hit the amp/volt limit.
 

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I tried to post this yesterday but it wasn't working for me. Hopefully, it does now I tested first in the Sandbox lol.

My P3 arrived. The photo doesn't do it justice I'm afraid. I also miss using my Star Wars carto tanks but I'm really glad I took a step forward this month with some new tanks, Radius (treating me soooo good) and now the P3. That's it, I'm done spending money for a bit.....after I buy the blue Kabuki...and maybe some more accessories.

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if you had an opportunity to have a p3 beta, would you go for it? I only have one p3 kabuki tank, so I guess I would have to buy another... ;)

If the price is right, absolutely. It can be updated to the latest firmware, just like any P3. I just got my 4th P3 Kabuki. Can't have enough of these beauties!
 

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What atty? I get that from time to time but it's never the P3. I usually find a loose deck screw causing changing ohms. If it happens on RBA's that's what I would check first before blaming the mod as the loose screw, even if it's slight, will cause ohms to increase. As the coil gets hot the connection gets looser, ohms go up, and you get output too high as you hit the amp/volt limit.
I haven't used any RBA's on it so it's not a loose deck screw.
 

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if you had an opportunity to have a p3 beta, would you go for it? I only have one p3 kabuki tank, so I guess I would have to buy another... ;)
For the right price? Sure.

I found a regular P3 in Craigslist for stupid cheap recently, so there are deals to be had if you look.
 

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There's no way 11 watts with a 2.5 coil could be output too high.

With the latest firmware, that should be true. 2.50 ohms at 14.4W would hit the 6.00V limit, as would 3.27 ohms at 11W. Does it always happen when the battery starts getting low (there was mention of "a couple hours"), or will it happen with a freshly charged, relatively new battery? Does the coil resistance read 2.5 (not that it's just a 2.5 ohm coil)? It happens when set at 11.0W? That shouldn't happen. 2.50 ohms at 11W is only 5.24V and 2.10A - within the P3's tolerance. Even low IQ would limit it to 15W, so that shouldn't be a factor either.
 

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if you had an opportunity to have a p3 beta, would you go for it? I only have one p3 kabuki tank, so I guess I would have to buy another... ;)

My ONLY P3 is the beta. I had it updated to the latest firmware. It's the same as a production P3 except for the end cap. If you get a beta, you'll want to get a proper P3 end cap as well (or possibly the new Procyon end cap).
 

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With the latest firmware, that should be true. 2.50 ohms at 14.4W would hit the 6.00V limit, as would 3.27 ohms at 11W. Does it always happen when the battery starts getting low (there was mention of "a couple hours"), or will it happen with a freshly charged, relatively new battery? Does the coil resistance read 2.5 (not that it's just a 2.5 ohm coil)? It happens when set at 11.0W? That shouldn't happen. 2.50 ohms at 11W is only 5.24V and 2.10A - within the P3's tolerance. Even low IQ would limit it to 15W, so that shouldn't be a factor either.

If there's a problem, doesn't a warning alert spontaneously scroll across the screen?

ETA: Hmmm...I guess there is something wrong with the coil. It read 2.40Ω, but whatever. I just switched to a different Rüzgar (the other was a Rüz too) with a lower resistance coil and the triangle doesn't appear anymore.

I thought if there was a problem a warning would scroll across the screen and the P3 wouldn't fire. I guess not. I've been using the tank for months, but since I rarely look at the menu and almost never passed the first function (I'm in the speed off mode or whatever it is where the screen doesn't light up when you vape) I have no idea how long the triangle has been there. The IQ has always been good to great.

It now reads 11 watts/3.9 volts/1.39 ohms on a coil that's about 18 months old. I switched to the higher resistance coil to save battery life and because the deck of the old one looked gunky. Despite being gunky looking it tastes fine.

ETA: I haven't updated the P3 since I got it, but I ordered it after it had been out for awhile so I think it came with the first update installed. I don't remember what end cap I have, it's been awhile since I've seen the pictures of them side-by-side.
 
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That's definitely a puzzle then. If you send it in make sure you send a tank that it happens on too so they can reproduce your set up.
They can use any tank they have there at their disposal. It happens with every tank I've put on it so I'm not packing up all my tanks & sending them to ProVape.
 

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Managed to get into VapeNY to have my P3s updated. Not a bad selection for a small shop, pleasant emplyees, and they did the updates gratis. Picked up some juice as well.
I will have to check them out when I am in NYC next month. :)
 

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Managed to get into VapeNY to have my P3s updated. Not a bad selection for a small shop, pleasant employees, and they did the updates gratis. Picked up some juice as well.

This is the way a good shop should treat a customer. And because they didn't charge you for the updates, you spend money with them. Smart dealer!
 

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This is the way a good shop should treat a customer. And because they didn't charge you for the updates, you spend money with them. Smart dealer!

Yup. And I would give my eye teeth for a similarly run B&M near me.
 

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One other thing: I was able to observe a few transactions while I was waiting. They were very keen on battery safety, weren't trying to over-sell anyone, gave people a range of juices to taste, with a nice mix of budget and upscale choices, based on a few questions about their preferences and pv set ups. Overall, I was fairly impressed.

They carry a pretty good mix of products for the full range of vapers, from egos to reuleauxs. Even had those JUUL thingies and at least a couple of Radii. What else? A decent range of tanks, some mechs and drippers, again a nice spread on price points. That was the best part; they didn't seem to be shunning any segment of the market.

Most of the places that sell vape stuff around here are middle eastern corner stores or tobacconists. Prices are very high, while selection is mediocre at best.

So, it was nice to see something this good.
 
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