Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3

[rondasherrill]

That's how I imagined it (as I'm taking primary puffs on my mechanical).

I just thought of another thing I wish it had: interchangeable tops - tapered and flat that could be screwed on depending on which one you wanted.

That would be cool! I'm sure someone will take advantage of that P3 threading to create just that(although with that method it would add a little height)

I'm mostly curious to see what rta/rda's come out to take advantage of the P3 threading instead of the 510 connector. I just REALLY want one good short version of each. I don't need anything that holds 6mL, just 2.5-3 would be perfect. I like to keep the length down.

That's why I have a kayfun Nano clone right now. Most RTA's are quite unweildy IMO.

 

[keepsmiling]

I was wondering are they going to offer other colors or versions of the P3? They didn't exactly go all out in the looks department IMO.

 

[rondasherrill]

I was wondering are they going to offer other colors or versions of the P3? They didn't exactly go all out in the looks department IMO.

They will be later, but the initial launch will only be the Satin.

 

[HBcorpse]

I was wondering are they going to offer other colors or versions of the P3? They didn't exactly go all out in the looks department IMO.

I think it's safe to assume that the P3 will follow in the footsteps of the previous models...which definitely means more colors...


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[HBcorpse]

I don't remember when, or where I said it...but I had an epiphany (not really) of change of perspective on the P3...

Try not to think of it as a Provari v3.0, but rather the Provari v1.0 of the next generation of Provape mods...
It's obviously an improvement on the previous models, in some ways, and simply a change in other ways...
But, with this model, I'd say they might be laying the groundwork for the next wave of tech...
So, for all the ways you might feel the P3 falls short, just think of those things as the new starting point, of the next generation...


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[Train2]

So what's being said is, ummm..., like if you have the voltage set at 4.1, when fired it would actually fire at perhaps 4.2 for a fraction of a second?

Yeah, pretty much, but with a few different "styles" or levels of boost that you can try, then pick your favorite.
Know how first time vaping a ProVari, a lot of us thought "WOW" - "SOMETHING is making a difference, this is better than other regulated mods"? I'm HOPING it's like that. The idea is to eliminate the slight delay between pressing a button and getting full vapor production. Cool concept, I hope it lives up to the couple excellent reviews it's gotten...

(edit: Mech don't "boost")

I just thought of another thing I wish it had: interchangeable tops - tapered and flat that could be screwed on depending on which one you wanted.

They pretty much said they planned to release additional tops - for various threadings. I'd assume they could also release a tapered one for 19mm tops. I mean, they're planning an EGO, so of COURSE people would want that tapered to 19, right?

 

[dam718]

What I hope to see is third party manufacturers taking full advantage of the P3 threading and turning the P3 into the de facto standard Hybrid engine... Something like Zen was doing with the Z-Atty Pro, designed for the ProVari...

Heck, I even think maybe these folks at ProVape could come up with their OWN super bad to the bone rebuildable with P3 threading... Certainly a rocket scientist can figure out a fool proof method for sizzling liquid in a can and sucking out the exhaust fumes with your mouth, am I right ProVape??? LoL

Heck, they could even call it the PhD (ProVari Hybrid Device) and I won't even ask for royalties... Play into the rocket scientists hand full bore... DO IT PROVAPE!!! DO IT!!!

PhD!!!

You can really go ALL OUT with the rocket scientist play, and make the finished ProVari, PhD setup look like a submarine launched Trident II D5 missile!!!

WHAT!!!!

Do it ProVape!!! ProVari, PhD!!!

 

[laurie9300]

That ^^^^^^^^^ Brilliant!

 

[JohnD0406]

When you say it applies the power "faster" I think that there is some confusion in that statement.

I press my button on a V2/2.5 and power gets applied to the coil right away... No perceivable delays

Press the button on a P3 and power gets applied to the coil right away... No perceivable delays

So, from a speed perspective, they apply power to the coil at the exact same rate...

Not quite... The ProVari has to calculate voltage/wattage, measure atty resistance, and perform calculations and monitoring in realtime. The fact that the P3 uses an ARM processor (seemingly way overkill, but who's gonna complain?), makes 'firing faster', however faster that may be, a logically sound statement.

 

[dam718]

Not quite... The ProVari has to calculate voltage/wattage, measure atty resistance, and perform calculations and monitoring in realtime. The fact that the P3 uses an ARM processor (seemingly way overkill, but who's gonna complain?), makes 'firing faster', however faster that may be, a logically sound statement.

I get your point, but when we're talking about things measured in thousands of a second, like drag racer reaction times, I believe to the end user most of use will see no perceivable delay

But, you're right... I would imagine that ARM processor calculates the firing voltage faster than any other VW mod on the planet... And probably recalculates as the resistance of the coil fluctuates at some ridiculous rate that we may never know... So yes, I concede, it's probably faster, if only by miniscule fractions of a second

 

[serenity21899]

I just saw a thread in another subforum about Evolv getting a patent on VW, that should go through next month. What are the chances of that affecting the P3?

They were first with the Darwin as the first VW device years ago. I think it's a bit to late to patent that now.

 

[rondasherrill]

They were first with the Darwin as the first VW device years ago. I think it's a bit to late to patent that now.

Lol yea I remember the Darwin. Personally, they couldn't have payed me to use that device, but I know several people were waiting forever for them to release more of them, and more never came.

 

[dam718]

Kinda makes you wonder how many of those funky things still exist...

If you look at the patent application folks are talking about, the prints submitted for the patent are clearly for the Darwin, so I don't think any of this will effect the P3 at all... Especially when you consider the P3 is using an ARM Processor to run the show... And a completely different circuit design...

Pretty certain the similarities end with "They both heat up a coil with variable power"

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi Jazzman,

No problem. Please note that this is subject to change since we are in beta, but the details I have for now are:

HotShot ® Boost mode allows you to get more vapor with a short power boost with each puff. This setting is adjustable allowing you to dial-in your favorite boost time setting. Boost mode is useful for those who want to heat up the atomizer faster. With Boost mode turned on, the atomizer will get a boost of power for a short period of time and then the power will drop down to your set power. For example, if you set your wattage to 9 watts and then turn on the boost mode to 1, by pressing the button, the device will boost the power for the first .25 seconds and then it will drop it down to 9 watts. Increasing the boost level to 2, 3, 4 or 5 will increase the amount of time the device boosts the power before it drops down to your selected 9 watts. Note that turning the ProVari up to max wattage and boosting up to 5 will not exceed the maximum output of the unit which is up to 20 watts.

Boost 1 - .25 seconds
Boost 2 – .50 seconds
Boost 3 – .75 seconds
Boost 4 – 1.00 seconds
Boost 5 – 1.25 seconds

Since this is still in beta I cannot comment on the power levels, but hopefully this gives you a better idea of how that works.

Late to the party and i haz a confoosed.

"HotShot ® Boost mode allows you to get more vapor with a short power boost with each puff."
"Increasing the boost level to 2, 3, 4 or 5 will increase the amount of time the device boosts the power before it drops down to your selected 9 watts."

If it boosts with every puff, what's the point of it going back down to 9 watts if the boost is for every puff? What will one be doing at the 9 watt setting if not taking a puff? What am I missing here?

 

[Ozwald]

Late to the party and i haz a confoosed.

"HotShot ® Boost mode allows you to get more vapor with a short power boost with each puff."
"Increasing the boost level to 2, 3, 4 or 5 will increase the amount of time the device boosts the power before it drops down to your selected 9 watts."

If it boosts with every puff, what's the point of it going back down to 9 watts if the boost is for every puff? What will one be doing at the 9 watt setting if not taking a puff? What am I missing here?

From what I understand of it, it's for the heat up time on coils to eliminate "primer puffs". It sends some extra power to heat the coil up faster & then continues the vape at your setting. In general, higher power means a hotter coil. Instead of vaping on a hotter coil, this is just decreasing the time that it takes for the coil to get to the temperature of your actual setting without the boost.

Sort of like preheating your oven at 500 to get it to 400 faster... but once it hits 400 you turn down the dial, so you're not actually getting that 500 degrees.

 

[rondasherrill]

Late to the party and i haz a confoosed.

"HotShot ® Boost mode allows you to get more vapor with a short power boost with each puff."
"Increasing the boost level to 2, 3, 4 or 5 will increase the amount of time the device boosts the power before it drops down to your selected 9 watts."

If it boosts with every puff, what's the point of it going back down to 9 watts if the boost is for every puff? What will one be doing at the 9 watt setting if not taking a puff? What am I missing here?

EDIT: Ninja'd by Ozwald. But yea, what he said.

 

[The Ocelot]

From what I understand of it, it's for the heat up time on coils to eliminate "primer puffs". It sends some extra power to heat the coil up faster & then continues the vape at your setting. In general, higher power means a hotter coil. Instead of vaping on a hotter coil, this is just decreasing the time that it takes for the coil to get to the temperature of your actual setting without the boost.

Sort of like preheating your oven at 500 to get it to 400 faster... but once it hits 400 you turn down the dial, so you're not actually getting that 500 degrees.

I understand that concept, but it's the "short power boost with each puff"that has me perplexed. Follow my thought process here (I know that's hard, cuz it's me, but try): I've set the power to 9 watts, the first puff will be something like 9.1 (or whatever) to heat the coils, then it goes back to 9. But my next puff would go back up to 9.1 watts again - per the each puff statement, then back to 9, then the next puff would be 9.1 each puff. If each puff is boosted, when would I ever vape at 9 watts? It seems I would be vaping 9.1/9, unless I turned it off.

ETA: I've never taken a primer puff with a V2/V2.5.

 

[rbrylawski]

Yeah, pretty much, but with a few different "styles" or levels of boost that you can try, then pick your favorite.
Know how first time vaping a ProVari, a lot of us thought "WOW" - "SOMETHING is making a difference, this is better than other regulated mods"? I'm HOPING it's like that. The idea is to eliminate the slight delay between pressing a button and getting full vapor production. Cool concept, I hope it lives up to the couple excellent reviews it's gotten...

(edit: Mech don't "boost")



They pretty much said they planned to release additional tops - for various threadings. I'd assume they could also release a tapered one for 19mm tops. I mean, they're planning an EGO, so of COURSE people would want that tapered to 19, right?

It does exactly what you're describing. I've tried it! I've seen the light! Provape take my money. Please!


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[rondasherrill]

I understand that concept, but it's the "short power boost with each puff"that has me perplexed. Follow my thought process here (I know that's hard, cuz it's me, but try): I've set the power to 9 watts, the first puff will be something like 9.1 (or whatever) to heat the coils, then it goes back to 9. But my next puff would go back up to 9.1 watts again - per the each puff statement, then back to 9, then the next puff would be 9.1 each puff. If each puff is boosted, when would I ever vape at 9 watts? It seems I would be vaping 9.1/9, unless I turned it off.

ETA: I've never taken a primer puff with a V2/V2.5.

But each puff you take probably lasts more than the fraction of a second the boost is actually activated. It's just a little extra power to get the coil up to full temp faster.

 

[The Ocelot]

But each puff you take probably lasts more than the fraction of a second the boost is actually activated. It's just a little extra power to get the coil up to full temp faster.

Okay. It's morning and I've had coffee. I understand what you mean now.