Vape360 seems to think that's possible and offered you a new spring. That leads me to wonder if there were some early "big springs" with sub-spec compression or if there's enough variability in spring manufacturing to cause this.
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Vape360 seems to think that's possible and offered you a new spring. That leads me to wonder if there were some early "big springs" with sub-spec compression or if there's enough variability in spring manufacturing to cause this.
There were some smaller springs in the beta P3, mine is the release version. It has the bigger spring, and it's absolutely fine.
By reading the specific part in the manual, my P3 does exactly what it was designed to do. No fault in that direction.
Dropping a "fresh" battery reading to 60% with no more than an atty change isn't typical for the device. Is it possible that in your frustration you used a partially charged battery with that atty?
This happened from time to time, but this is barely the issue.
It's the new battery meter which frustrates me,
It's quite easy to figure out how it works, the point is the information provided is useless.
Someone here mentioned a possible solution - to take a spare battery with you just in case, and that could be a workaround to the problem.
Without knowing, he admitted the battery gauge is useless.
The more I think of it, the more I get frustrated about the idea behind this gauge, and I got to a new conclusion:
It shows information using incompatible units. While it tries to display how much more can you go with your current settings,
it shows this information in percents, and not in time (or something else similar). And you can never know out of what these percents are.
If you put some atty and get 60%, there's no way for you to know what is 100%, so you cannot calculate how much battery you actually have remaining.
You also need to take into account there are many devices with battery gauges around us, all works the same but the Provari. You can never adapt.
Now, as I mentioned earlier, you can take a spare battery with you, you can spend some time trying to adapt to the new display, but
are we supposed to change the way we think and see things for the sake of a device ? It's quite the contrary - devices should adapt to us.
Bearing it is compromising for the sake of someone's idea. More is not always better.
I can say that with the new Provari I never knew when my battery was going to die. It just happened. With the previous model,
we had at least some flashing lights just before that. Now it's gone.
Someone mentioned that it's great for him, since in comparison to the previous Provari, you need to click less. Well, here at least we have something
to compare with, not as with the new battery gauge (remember ? 60% out of what ?)
But with the previous Provari, at least these 9 clicks showed the information you need, which is the battery level. With the new one, this information is not
available in any way. I also think the previous Provari interface design was genius. It was a huge innovation in comparison to what you can achieve
with a single button and a 7 segment display. With the new oled display, it could be perfected. Unfortunately, this is not the case.
Marius,
Do you really vape that differently between all your different atomizers? Surely you have found some sweet spot for most, if not all of them?
On my P3, I use three Kayfuns, a Nautilus, and a Sophia...and I use the first four at almost the same ohms (1.5-1.8), same watts (10)...my Sophia build is still being mastered, and has recently been 2.5 ohms, and vaping at 7.2watts...
This means that no matter which atomizer I put on top, I will get almost exactly the same battery life...the Sophia gets even longer battery life.
The reason I mention all this, is because of the manner in which you are not pleased with the battery gauge. From reading your experience with it, I would have to assume that you vape at wildly different settings with each atomizer, and therefore, have not established a rhythm or pattern in knowing your battery usage...while this is totally possible, as everyone vapes differently, I find it to be rather odd...
Even though everyone vapes differently from each other, they still vape consistently inside of their own bubble...as I described above, using 4/5 atomizers in the same ohms/watts range...
Vaping in a consistent range of resistance and power output, has created a rhythm or pattern in my battery usage, and therefore, when my battery gauge says 60%, I know it's the same 60% I'm always reading...and can make a mental calculation of how much more life I can get out of that battery's charge. So I don't need any more information than that.
When you say "60% out of what?" the answer is easy...it means 60% of the battery's charge is left. Being that not all batteries are the same, each one has it's own charge range. A good way to figure out which of your batteries have the best charge range, is the label them...then, if one battery dies faster than another, you'll know it's older or has been worked harder, and probably needs to be replaced.
Now, as you've seen, some batteries drop quickly...and that's because the P3 is smart enough to read the battery more accurately. It knows what the battery is capable of, and will only let you vape on it within the safe limits of what the battery can do...this goes for the total power capability of the battery when new, but also adjusts as the battery gets older...
All in all, I understand that you are not pleased with the battery gauge (among other things), for your personal usage of the P3...but that doesn't make it wrong, because as you can see, I thoroughly enjoy it, and use it all the time.
One thing I DEFINITELY agree with you on? The blinking light should come back...at least if only a selectable option...
Having seen that TheOcelot chooses to run her P3 with the display off, perhaps there could be an update with the option to run the P3 in "v2.5 mode"...with the display off, and the blinking light battery indicator/or battery voltage displayed upon command...backwards thinking for some, but a nice option for those who are institutionalized by the v2.5........
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I do switch attys during the day, something like every few hours. I don't call it a wild vape.
I also do understand that these 60% is the battery charge left, but it's 60% out of something I don't know, and this is because if I switch the atty,
these 60% can become 50% or 70%. If I'll take a few puffs one after the other, these 60% may also change, and this is because the P3 learns from my vaping habits. It will also happen if I change the power settings. This is why i can never know what is100%.
I do see that some people like this battery gauge. I don't understand why, but this is a fact, and they should be taken into account when changing something.
So even if I don't like the idea of another option in the menu, it can be a good compromise - to have an option to switch between this smart battery gauge, and the classic one.
Battery Gauge... Whats that?
I vapes til it blinks, then changes the batt.
Focus on the vape... Or you could send ProVape a formal suggestion through their help desk?
Jim
Like the fuel gauge in your car. Is it linear? Don't count on it. Is it accurate? Only roughly so.
That's like saying drive it 'til it stalls before refueling. As with the vehicle's low-level fuel warning light, I think the ProVari 3 needs a slow blinking yellow light at about 10% charge and below--right around the point it starts cutting back from 20 watts. edit: Perhaps that only need be active when the display is turned off.
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More like driving until the low fuel indicator comes on, then refueling, before it stalls.
That only works on the 2.5. There is no low fuel indicator on a P3… when the light blinks, you're stalled--no opportunity to refuel prior to that.
I changed an atty once and lost a significant amount of IQ. I did no more than clean the atty threads w/99% alcohol and gained 20 points IQ as soon as I re-installed it. The threads were black and grungy and the device it was previously on was not vaping properly, but did not have the IQ feature to signal a problem.
Point being, could the change in IQ level also affect the battery gauge? Less connectivity, less battery duration.
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I would beg to differ, the unit does have a low power indicator. (In the form of a downward pointing arrow on the display)
I will also add that my V2 had no such indicator either. (With the Lo set to the off position)
I think the bottom line for me is... Change, Like It or Leave It.
I will also add that my V2 had no such indicator either. (With the Lo set to the off position)
I think the bottom line for me is... Change, Like It or Leave It.
This is a useful data point. Thanks! From what I've read from ProVape, Input Quality doesn't reflect output such as the atty connection. It's good to know your experience with this.
I humbly stand corrected. I've seen that before and didn't look up what it was. Thanks!
Hey no prob...
Cleaned all my mating areas with Super Lube increased my Provi IQ also.
The blinking light on my V2's & V2.5's annoyed me, but they did make me change my batteries in sufficient time to keep vaping.
The P3 battery gauge is virtually worthless to me, as I rarely look at it. The light blinking after the battery is dead is also useless as by then I already know because I don't get any vape.
I don't really care, because I just change batteries, but I can see everyone's point to whom it does matter.
The P3 battery gauge is virtually worthless to me, as I rarely look at it. The light blinking after the battery is dead is also useless as by then I already know because I don't get any vape.
I don't really care, because I just change batteries, but I can see everyone's point to whom it does matter.
My battery level just read 44% & my IQ was 54.
I unscrewed all the tubes and cap as I was in 18650 mode.
It now reads 64% battery and 84 IQ!
Seems a little sensitive to me.
I unscrewed all the tubes and cap as I was in 18650 mode.
It now reads 64% battery and 84 IQ!
Seems a little sensitive to me.
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