You really change the cotton EVERY OTHER day? Does everyone do that?
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You really change the cotton EVERY OTHER day? Does everyone do that?
Vaperev is out of stock on the lite plus. They sell the Lite + for $79. Vapinart sells it for $79. I've written Vapinart to see if they will match the Vaperev price of $70 and if they will, I'm going to order it. If not, I'll wait for Vaperev to get them back in stock.
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What happens if you don't change the cotton every other day?
Well..........you KNOW I'm OCD. I'm just surprised the cotton needs to be replaced every other day. Yes I am!
Once a wwwk or when the flavor starts to get "off". You'll know.
Unless you're a hard core vaper vaping non stop all day, I really don't see the need to change the wick every other day.
Just saying! I'm sure it's a little "better" that way, but frankly for me it takes a little while just for the cotton to "break in" and I'd rather not be hassled with it that often. I've gone like 10 days in the KFL, but made it a point to change every weekend anyway.
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I started with Kanger. T2's, M3's, T3's...they all leaked. I gave up on Kanger long ago. I hate leaks too. My KFLs never leak. If you want to ship it to me I'll do your first build and throw in some spare coils. Sometimes it is easier to build your own when you see one in action. Your call Sir Rod.
Haha I believe you
I just don't think that's the "norm" to have to change it that often is all. I've always heard much longer and experienced much longer. Didn't want him to be scared away, because I truly don't that's the norm. For me a week with the wicks and frankly coils seemed like they would never end since you can dry burn them. I think I had the same coil for like 2-3 months at one point.
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So, Vapinart agreed to match the Vaperev price of $70.
Kayfun Lite + Ordered!
We'll see if I really need to change the cotton every other day.
And Bronze thank you SO MUCH for offering to make my first coil. I'm going to have to learn to make them one way or the other, so while I truly appreciate the offer, I'm a gonna make my first coil for it. Yes I am!
Kayfun Lite + Ordered!
We'll see if I really need to change the cotton every other day.
And Bronze thank you SO MUCH for offering to make my first coil. I'm going to have to learn to make them one way or the other, so while I truly appreciate the offer, I'm a gonna make my first coil for it. Yes I am!
I've had my 2.5 for over 3 years now and it has been a great device; I've never regretted buying it. Thus when the P3 came out I really wanted one but just couldn't see the 249 price tag. When they put it on sale for 199 I took the plunge. I've had it for 5 days now and have had considerable problems with an error that indicates I need to replace my atty. Found that if I take the battery out and put it back in it will work again for a while...how long, no one knows, and then it will error out again. Repeat cycle. The ohms aren't too low as I have it at 1.3. I put it on the 2.5 and no problems but back on the 3.0 and again after a short time it errors out. Any help would be appreciated. I only have a couple more days to send it back which I don't want to do but can't stay with it the way it is. Any suggestions?
One other thing, when it does work okay I've tried taking it up to 3.5 to 4 amps and it indicates the power it too high. I though P3 was suppose to go to 5.5 amps. Any comments on this would be appreciated as well.
One other thing, when it does work okay I've tried taking it up to 3.5 to 4 amps and it indicates the power it too high. I though P3 was suppose to go to 5.5 amps. Any comments on this would be appreciated as well.
I would open a ticket with ProVape ... vape360 might pop in with an answer.
Great, RB! I don't rewick every other day, either. Maybe every third tank ...which would be about twice a week if the KFL was all I used. That is, unless I'm vaping a juice that gunks up the coil, in which case I dry burn and rewick after each tank 
. I recall TO having said she used the same coil for several months, so I think you won't find it a big deal at all. Yeah Sir Rod!
. I recall TO having said she used the same coil for several months, so I think you won't find it a big deal at all. Yeah Sir Rod!
Don't give up just yet. If it's leaking, there's a good reason that can be explained. I have two, and they don't leak. I think it's time to get back to basics with these sub-ohm tanks. Many people in this P3 thread are low-wattage vapers - perhaps sub-ohm is not for you. Wasn't long ago when those of us who sub-ohm'd our drippers were mocked. "Why would you need that much power?", "Why do you want to blow large clouds?", etc. Well folks, the sub-ohm tanks were made for people like me. Anyway, back to basics.
There is an important relationship between the resistance of the coil, the amount of wick, the amount of airflow, the tightness of the draw, and the thickness of the liquid. The lower the resistance, the higher the power, the higher the airflow, the looser the draw. The amount of wicking and thickness of the liquid determine how often you can take a draw without getting a dry or burned hit.
In almost every case of a tank leaking I've helped someone with, the tank was not being used properly. I said "almost" - doesn't mean every time. There are some other factors to consider, but basics first. I use my SubTanks on my P3 at 20W at the widest airflow setting for most juices, and the two hole setting for thicker juices. Never had a leak. Not even a drop. And I've never cleaned them either - refills and juice changes - too lazy when there's no evident need.
What wattage are you using your SubTank at? The MINIMUM the 1.2-ohm coil can handle is 12W. If you have it set 12-15W, you need a loose draw (large airflow), otherwise you'll be sucking in too much juice into the chamber and not vaporizing enough off. That extra juice has to go somewhere you know... and we have a leak. Keep in mind that leaks are the opposite of dry hits - you have to be somewhere in the middle for it to work right. That goes for any tank, including the Kayfun. The Kayfun has a relatively tight draw, but a small chamber, so you usually build a smaller coil at a higher resistance, and use it in the 12-16W range (lower you flood and leak; higher you dry hit). If you don't like leaks, you really should steer clear of the Kayfun - it's a steep learning curve, keeping everything I've said in mind. There are a lot of tricks you'll need to know if it does leak, and chances are, until you learn the ropes, it will leak. I have 7 of them, so I know... I helped someone at work just last week with a leaky Kayfun - solved their problem in under a minute.
Now for the other factors, which affect all tanks. Barometric pressure: When the barometric pressure goes up and down, it sucks juice into the chamber, then bubbles into the tank, repeat. Letting a Kayfun sit unused pretty much guarantees a leak, all the way down your mod, into a puddle on your vape stand. If you live in an area with a lot of pressure changes, you might want to look into something that can't leak. Next up, temperature: Temperature changes do the same thing as barometric pressure changes, but temperature also affects the viscosity of the liquid. Warmer temps make the juice thinner; cooler temps make the juice thicker. Thinner juices wick faster, and in something like a Kayfun, if your coil is too close to the airflow intake in the chamber, capillary action between the wick and the center post will cause juice to flow like a fountain, out the airhole, down your mod, or into your pocket.
To sum it all up - increase your airflow, and/or increase your wattage.
I'll tell you why... The original 25mm SubTank did have a leaking issue due to thin seals. They fixed that design when they much later released the SubTank mini. The new 25mm SubTank is built like the SubTank mini, since they were successful in fixing the leaking issue of the original 25mm SubTank. The seals simply don't leak anymore. Where is the juice leaking from on yours? If it's from the seals, maybe you have pocket lint on them? It's happened to me with other tanks. I think you're mixing up the new 25mm SubTank with the 22mm SubTank mini - there is no new version of the mini.
DeadGuy is a low wattage vaper - that's why he had issues with the tank. Sub-ohm is not for low wattage.
If you don't like building coils, don't get a Kayfun. The deck is much harder to build on than a dripper. I've done enough builds that it's not difficult for me, but I would never recommend one to a beginner, or to someone who doesn't like building coils.
No leaks? LOL, sorry, but Kayfuns are PICKY! You need to do a GOOD build to not get leaks. Ask any vape shop employee. Kayfun's are synonymous with leaks. Now, there are plenty of people who got lucky and did it right from the start, however I consider myself an advanced coil builder, and even I had to call the vape shop for advice about my first one leaking so much, and learn the tricks when they do start leaking. If you don't like to build coils and tweak things, which it sounds like you don't, I wouldn't recommend a Kayfun.
Got mine from VapeRev, but they're a 45-minute drive from where I live. My most recent Kayfun was the Five Pawns edition, which I had to have since I'm a huge fan of chess - it runs in our family, and my brother and I competed in tournaments. As for price, VapeRev sells them at the same price everyone else does. I heard there might have been a price drop recently, but KFL+'s are typically $99. You can get a clone for $30, but quality varies as you would expect. My clone had a mis-threaded fill screw, and I had to fight for them to send me a new deck. The fill screw was in tight, but since it was mis-threaded at the factory, it would never come out - just spun in place. Other than a few minor quality differences, it's pretty much the same experience as the authentic. I don't believe in wasting money on authentics - I almost always buy clones first to get an overall feel for something, keeping quality issues in mind and not assuming the authentic has the same issues - that's what research is for. I always end up giving the clones away, or selling them super cheap - usually to a smoker I'm trying to convert. So far, it's worked every time. Had one guy drop one of my clone mods with clone tank and scratch it all up. He wanted to buy me a new one - I told him forget about it, and keep it.
If you like the tight draw of the Nautilus, stick with it. The Nautilus produces great flavor, like the Kayfun, it doesn't leak, you don't have to build coils, and the new cotton coils are great. I typically like high wattage, a lot of vapor, and a loose draw, but my Nautilus mini on the ProVari v2.5 really hits the spot sometimes.
Hmmm. I wonder if your resistance is jumpy on your atty. Try another atty and see what happens. Amp limit on the P2.5 is 3.5 amps. It's 5.5 amps on the P3.
Bronze now has 50 KFL's in his collection. Still waiting for mine to arrive. Joking now I'm not serious. Bronze was a major help for me.
Btw Rod Vaperev was out of stock when I decided to buy the FP KFL. Vaperev did say they expected the KFL's in a few weeks. Email them and find out when. Super fast shipping.
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