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[starsong]

Sounds like the carto may not be making good contact with the battery. Don't usually need to do the contact lift thing, but it might be worth a try.

Help ... I think my battery died

I charged it, then went to use it. The led lights up but I get nothing out of the carto. Tried the carto on my other battery and it worked. Opened a new carto to try it, and it still doesn't work.
Tried putting it back on the charger...it is still showing charged. And the led still lights up when trying to take a drag ... Just no flavor or vapor.

Any ideas on what is the matter? Any way I can fix it?

I ordered a new battery yesterday, with slow shipping. Because I needed 3 to rotate through. lol I'll go crazy with only one battery.

 

[Bluemoonjo]

Let me ask you a question....when you put the batt on the charger, are you screwing it ALL the way down...and What I mean by that is do you screw it on real "Tight"?

I try to turn it just a touch past when the led lights up .... I had read that screwing them on all the way could mess them up. They seem to charge fine that way .... I charge them with the wall outlet piece that came with the kit.

 

[starsong]

I'd like an answer to this, too. My batts haven't died yet, but i assume they don't last forever. What are the signs that they need to be replaced?

I'm still using ones I bought in late January and early February. Only ones I've had die were another but similar style, which just refused to hold a charge anymore after only a couple months. But these batteries are holding up well. Granted I rotate between 4 of them, so that's adding to the longevity of each.

 

[keelalagirl55]

I concur with Star...that is why I was asking....just screw them on till the light comes on and stop...no need to go any further. It can actually push the contact post down too far to make a good connection. Okay...try this...take either a needle, or a strong paperclip (that has been straightened out at one end)...between the post and the batts. connector threads, use the "tool" and pry the post up a little....you will have to do this on both sides so it raises even. Once raised, try it again with a carto. If that does not work, I'd have to conclude that the batt has died. Is it a manual or an auto? If it is an auto, is there a chance you may have gotten juice in it?

 

[Imagine]

if that does not work...sounds like the switch is dead...could you have gotten juice in it?

 

[samuraijill]

Re. Ithaca, NY: C&C Tobacco sells Cig2O e-cigs, so why not Volts? See Ithaca Cigars A quick look at their Web site didn't turn up any e-cigs, but someone told my friend Bill that he got a Cig2O starter kit there. Someone who already sells e-cigs might be your best bet. Ithaca is a college town, with Cornell Univ. & Ithaca College, so they probably have a larger potential customer base than elsewhere. Please look into it and let me know if they will sell Volt products there!

We have a couple of dedicated tobacco shops in our relatively unpopulated county, and one of them carries the cig2o brand, and I've actually thought about marching in there ( I was a loooong time, very regular customer) and demanding they carry Volt instead. Or with. Or just stock classic grape liquid. Or just tell me they will think about it so I'll keep hanging around.

 

[dragonladee]

I have had to take a q-tip with alcohol on it and clean the battery and usb charger connectors once....they had a little bit of buildup on them that was a blackish color, it was preventing good contact when I was trying to charge. I have been very careful not to get juice on them and batts were working fine, maybe the type of juice I've been refilling with to vape leaves a film after awhile or the accumulation over time of small drops I didn't notice. I dunno, but after I got that little bit of gunk off I was back in the charging business

 

[Bluemoonjo]

if that does not work...sounds like the switch is dead...could you have gotten juice in it?

I'm kinda scared to stick something in it lol ... But comparing the two batteries (autos), both the connecters look the same.
I don't think juice got in it.... I'm careful to make sure the cartos are dry and make sure to hold it so the liquid can't run down. When I'm not using it I take the carto off before putting it in the case. (I tend to be paranoid and over do things lol)

 

[keelalagirl55]

lol...You don't stick it in the batt....where you touch is all sealed Not sure on these, but some other new 808's, lifting the post can reset the switch as well.....but as I said, not sure if it resets on these.

 

[cindycated]

if that does not work...sounds like the switch is dead...could you have gotten juice in it?

But if the switch is dead, would the LED still be lighting up?
Sounds like a "wiggle the post up" problem to me. Or how about the teeny tiny holes on the sides where the threads are? If they clog up, would that cause it to stop working? Or how about removing the carto and sucking and blowing into the battery to try to loosen the switch (if it's just stuck)?

MustangSallie came up with a really good way to clean that area too. Just take a paper napkin/tissue/towel and screw a carto onto the battery with it in between. Maybe sprinkle a little alcohol on the napkin too. Or YouTube (SteelJan's channel, or search "how to clean KR808 batteries").

...Imagine, your Avi looks beautiful!

 

[JeffyD]

Just a heads up for all of you - even if the plastic shell seems to be a bit flimsy, the XLPCC (the newest one Volt is carrying) seems to be able to be dropped from about 6 feet high, straight down onto pavement, and still survive without a scratch. And that is my very extensive testing of my newest plaything.

 

[GA Bill]

Excellent!

VA Bill you inspired me - see my avi, I have GREEN and ORANGE

Tee Hee Hee

 

[crbrown]

charge is lasting a long time at least 3 + hours on the 65.
but the charging is taking a while.
this afternoon i put the 65 on the charger after only using it for about an hour. it wasn't dead but i wanted to top off the charge before going out. after about an 1.5 hours of charging the led was still lit on the ecig. i un plugged and re pulged and the light didn't go back on.

maybe my timing is bad but to me it seems like the led never goes out while charging. tonight i will do a test to see if it ever goes out
ill plug it in before bed and leave it all night. i guess we will see if my timing is bad or if i just need to be more patient.

is there any harm in leaving it on the charger to long?

I don't think it would be a problem, but then again if the charger isn't working properly I'm not sure.
With it being both batteries then my best guess would be the charger, maybe see if you can get a replacement?
SI has the best CS and I'm sure they'll take care you.

 

[crbrown]

Bummer, Chris. I charge regularly with both a mac and a car adapter and haven't run into this. Sounds like the batt is working fine though, so yeah, maybe a bad USB charger...

LOL...guess I should read the rest of the thread before replying, sorry for the repeat

 

[ozpkchris]

ok i guess i was just jumping the gun, problem seems to be solved the lights on both of my batts went off last night.

i guess i didn't wait long enough.

thanks everybody for pinching their heads together.

and yes i am crazy

 

[malyden]

we all get a little impatient from time to time - glad you got it figured out!

 

[SteelJan]

I'm kinda scared to stick something in it lol ... But comparing the two batteries (autos), both the connecters look the same.
I don't think juice got in it.... I'm careful to make sure the cartos are dry and make sure to hold it so the liquid can't run down. When I'm not using it I take the carto off before putting it in the case. (I tend to be paranoid and over do things lol)

I never stick anything conductive, e.g. paperclip, into my battery's hole 'cause I don't want to run the risk of shorting out the battery. When I've wanted to fiddle with pulling up the center of the battery, which I did testing another manufacturer's carto on one of my Volt batteries, I did it with a whittled toothpick. But I doubt that's your problem.

Also, I don't screw the battery tightly onto the carto or onto the USB charger, because that can push the battery center down where it won't make carto contact later. Just snug where you feel it touch good is good enough.

First, try another carto on that battery. It could be you got a slightly off-specs carto where it's center post won't touch your battery center.

Also, clean your battery like I show in my cleaning video. A sign that it needs cleaning is if you hear a non-familiar whishy sound from around the carto base when you try to vape it. If the tiny air-holes on both sides of the battery threads get clogged, or there's gunk in that little area between the center point and the outside threads on the battery, the cartomizer won't draw well and so very little vapor. And all sorts of strange things can happen if e-liquid or condensation gets down into the battery hole, so yeah, check it with my tiny bit of rolled up tissue-thread, or I think Vapian uses sewing thread or dental floss or something, down the center battery hole.

Now, this is a strange one that I've not mentioned on a video yet. If the plastic ash cap on the LED end of your battery gets it's air holes plugged, it may not allow enough air in to fully engage the battery enough for a satisfactory vape. That ash cap is simply clicked in, not glued, you can pop it off sometimes with your fingernails or the blade of a small knife, just pry under the edges and it should snap out. Look at the two air-ways on opposite sides of the ash cap. If they are blocked by crud or something, you can whittle them out a bit or clean them and then snap the cap back in. There are micro-miniature holes on the little LED circuit board under the ash cap that have to stay clean and working, but I've not so far ever seen these crud up or get e-liquid in them.

Good luck with it, keep us posted.

 

[SteelJan]

Hello, Im new to this thread and LOVE my VOLT !

First things first.
Who I am

I am new to posting here but not new to reading this thread. Because of ECF, this thread, Steeljans reviews and other reviews I purchased the Volt. I am analog free 5 weeks today. The day I got my Volt was the last day I smoked. Was a 2 PaD smoker and smoked 32 years without ever trying to quit, until now. Needless to say my volt (I now own 10 volt batteries) never leaves my hand. Prior to owning Volt I did try 2 other brands but they were not up to par.

The customer service at Smokeless Image is fantastic. I have placed many orders so far and give Smokeless Image an A+++ for product and service. This forum thread gets an A+++ for keeping me comin back for more. More of everything from excellent information to darn right LOL. So thank you very much.

I do have a few questions and decided to come here to ask. May have just ruined 3 SI cartomizers. Not a big deal but I want to know for future reference.

So I now have 25 SI cartomizers that I had refilled and used several times then cleaned using the boiling method. Watched several videos and read up on it on ECF. I think I've got the boiling method down and I also had tried the turkey baster method last week. Both seemed to work well. Two other of the cleaning videos I had watched they showed using a plastic tooth pic or a straitened out paperclip to slide through the bat end hole of a cartomizer to make sure it was clear and then showed looking through the hole, I guess to make sure that it was clean. The video said you should be able to see through the hole. So I decided to try it and now think I just ruined 3 cartomizers. On all 3 when I put the paperclip through it a little burnt wick came out (fell onto my desk) that had a tiny wire attached to it. So I stopped what I was doing and opened up a brand new unused SI carto and looked at the hole and could NOT see through it. If with a brand new one you can't see through the hole why would I want to be able to see through the hole on a used cleaned one? This is leading me to believe that I should not be doing this with these volt cartos? Is that wick supposed to be in the center hole on the Volt cartos? Does anyone else do this on the volt cartomizers when cleaning them? I'm thinking those videos may have been for older style ecig cartos.

I see other's have already answered this but I'll chime in too. I show the inside guts of the cartomizer in my Volt video review. It's a horizontal coil that is seated near the battery connector end. What you popped out was indeed the heating, vaporizing coil, a teeny-tiny piece of coiled wire that looks like a miniature ball-point pen spring. Once that is broken, your cartomizer is permanently dead. It's also the thing that eventually gets crusted up with vaporized e-liquid residue to where your cartomizer is no longer vaping good enough to continue using, that's the end-of-life for a cartomizer or atomizer.

Yes, you watched videos for the old nasty-style of cartomizers, with the vertical coil. They not only had the problem of tasting simply awful, but the air hole down the center, being made only of polyfill, would fall in on itself and close up. Now, some vendors still sell this type of cartomizer but they don't have any idea what they are selling!!

I use an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner to clean my Volt cartos. Got it for like 5 bucks at a thrift shop. I put a 50-50 mix of pg (propylene glycol) and Everclear or Vodka in the trays and let it buzz-clean my cartos overnight. Next day I rinse them off really well and put them on a tray on a dishtowel to bake in the sun all day long, battery connector side down.

Oh yeah, welcome!!!!!!! Always great to see another Voltie face around the thread!!!

 

[keelalagirl55]

I never stick anything conductive, e.g. paperclip, into my battery's hole 'cause I don't want to run the risk of shorting out the battery. When I've wanted to fiddle with pulling up the center of the battery, which I did testing another manufacturer's carto on one of my Volt batteries, I did it with a whittled toothpick.

exactly...that is why I said not in the battery....I don't even do a toothpick in the hole (to afraid of slipping and moving stuff around in there). I do all my prying between the post and the threads....so you are prying from the outside of the post not the inside.

 

[Bluemoonjo]

Ahhh I keep typing a longer response, and it signs me out before it submits.
Right now it is still under warranty, so I hate to mess with it in case I'd mess something up. Ykwim I sent a ticket in and they say I can send it back. They will replace it if it is defective and not something I did. Anyone get one replaced before?