Official Squape R[eloaded] thread!

[SeniorBoy]

Just tried 5 different builds on the B deck earlier and had nothing but bad times. Either it would wick okay and taste like cotton or wouldn't wick at all and dry hit. I used all the suggestions I read on here as well as attempt to emulate the build posted a few pages back from the german youtube video minus the mesh and no luck. I've done about 20 builds on the W deck with never a dry hit but this guy is a totally different beast that I can't seem to tame. Anyone with a good build/method willing to post a guide in text/video form? I'm already about to give up. Wishing I had just got the D deck at this point.

1. Can you please post some pics of your build so we can all help? Yes, it's a temperamental beast but so was my ex wife and we lasted years. /lol Are you using cotton like CVS cotton balls stuff or KGD?

2. Watch this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0aM2sJJedo&app=desktop My last build emulated most of what the vid does. Since I use KGD I gently place the KGD wick in the base. I don't cram it down. I position it but I use a hell of a lot of it. Day two for me was only one little dribble. Both sides of the KGD have been peeled off. Then I blow on it to insure it's nice and fluffy. Others have also used similar but not identical techniques.



Please don't give up.

 

[inswva]

This thread's been moving right along since I last checked in. Sorry if this has been covered...

Anyway, I'm having TP issues with my B deck. I'm on my second B deck Ni200 build, using tempered 30AWG. Spaced coil (10 wraps?), coming out to .16ohm. I've had to raise the temp to 500F and lower the wattage to 12W before it'll stop running into TP. Pretty much the same deal as my first B deck build.

The 28AWG annealed Ni200 build on my W deck would run 22W and temp set to 450F with very little TP intrusion. I can't imagine airflow is much different between the two decks. The only thing I can imagine is that it's not wicking fast enough(?). First B deck build was with rayon and generously crammed in there. This build is KGD and the deck is full, but fluffy, not packed. Thoughts?

 

[ItTechy]

What are TP issues?

I'm still waking up...LOL

 

[dems86]

What are TP issues?

I'm still waking up...LOL

Temperature Protected vaping issues.

A lot of people refer to it as TC though...Temp Control, myself included

 

[sedge]

Who is going to be the first to drill out the juice feed holes?

 

[dems86]

Who is going to be the first to drill out the juice feed holes?

Oh damn, how has no one brought this up already, lol

Good call

 

[ItTechy]

Who is going to be the first to drill out the juice feed holes?

You read my mind!

Use a PIN VISE!

If none of you know what this is, this what you would use to drill something this small!

This is what is (was) used to drill out the jets in carburetors, very small sizes and is done by hand....no power tools, specifically for soft metals like brass or aluminum.

The drill bits are separate from the vise.

I would try doing two at a time in very minor steps! (maybe even one at a time)

PJ Tools , Amazon, etc.,

 

[Rikk]

Who is going to be the first to drill out the juice feed holes?

And, figure out how to deepen those shallow build channels so the coil will end up closer to the air hole and be easier to build on. [emoji15]

 

[Rikk]

This thread's been moving right along since I last checked in. Sorry if this has been covered...

Anyway, I'm having TP issues with my B deck. I'm on my second B deck Ni200 build, using tempered 30AWG. Spaced coil (10 wraps?), coming out to .16ohm. I've had to raise the temp to 500F and lower the wattage to 12W before it'll stop running into TP. Pretty much the same deal as my first B deck build.

The 28AWG annealed Ni200 build on my W deck would run 22W and temp set to 450F with very little TP intrusion. I can't imagine airflow is much different between the two decks. The only thing I can imagine is that it's not wicking fast enough(?). First B deck build was with rayon and generously crammed in there. This build is KGD and the deck is full, but fluffy, not packed. Thoughts?

I know I gave up way to early on this deck. When it didn't just work the first time like I thought it should. And that's the fault of the W deck being so damn easy.

Besides my resistance giving me fits, I started hitting TP almost instantly when the cotton was completely saturated. I guess I just wasn't in the mood to try and figure it out so I ripped it out.

Now that I've had time to think, I think my coil was way to high. I'm also wondering if my coil was touching the top of the chimney???

Next time I build it, I'm going to push it closer to the hole and see if the helps at all.

My build is basically identical to all my others, other than I'm using 28ga and not 30. Still shooting for .15ohms. Just more wraps than I usually do with 30ga

Why..... why would this one be so much different. Maybe cuz it is.

 

[SeniorBoy]

REALLY! /lol /joke

You guys are much braver than I am if you wish to enlarge the 4 juice holes on the B deck. I'm assuming you cult members are vaping max vg or 100% vg??????

I vape 50/50 and my apple mix is far from clear. Of course I wish you good luck. For some, proper wicking will remain a challenge because the B deck delivers SO MUCH juice with the 4 stock air holes. Of course for those that use a WIDE BORE drip tip and I'm betting you are ?? I can see where the B deck may not deliver enough juice for you. Especially those that take HUGE long draws and saturate their lungs. Lots of variables going on. /lol That's just my take on the issue.

 

[Rikk]

I vape 50/50 but my ideal is 70/30 VG/PG. And this thing easily handles 80/20 VG/PG. One of my few tanks that do.

I'm surprised they recommend such a high PG base.

 

[SeniorBoy]

BTW...who says you have to use the two notches for your rod on the B deck. I did an experimental build where I did a wrap around a Qtip which I think is around 2.75MM and then I cut this Qtip so it just fits into the deck above the air hole. Rest the little thing on the air hole to finish. Pull it up carefully one side at a time. Removing it with the wrap up and then push down for your preference. I may do it again since I think my wicking issue is resolved. I will post pics.

 

[SeniorBoy]

HEADS UP CULT MEMBERS!

This forum is migrating to a new script/technology on 4/22/15. If you need to, I suggest you save data from this thread and or any data for your own use. Their will be an outage. It's a massive job as IT geek and myself can tell you so vape and have fun.

SEE: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...8201-forum-changeover-wednesday-22nd-8am.html

 

[Rikk]

I think one of the most important things I've learned from wicking this thing (W deck) is it likes a lot of cotton. A lot of fluffy cotton. The wall of cotton at the edge of the deck needs to be wide and full. It prevents leaking and provides enough juice for heavy vaping.

So in the case of the SqR, more is good.

Now I've got to tackle the B deck. There's got to be some little trick that I'm missing.

 

[dems86]

I think one of the most important things I've learned from wicking this thing (W deck) is it likes a lot of cotton. A lot of fluffy cotton. The wall of cotton at the edge of the deck needs to be wide and full. It prevents leaking and provides enough juice for heavy vaping.

So in the case of the SqR, more is good.

Now I've got to tackle the B deck. There's got to be some little trick that I'm missing.

Have no fear buddy, you'll keep trying and one of these times you'll pick it up to vape abs the light bulb will have come on over your head

 

[Phone Guy]

I would like to confirm that on the W deck, if you wick with cotton, fluff up the edges, cut even the edge of the deck, fluff those "shoulders" up like crazy, like cartoon fluffy, that alone makes all the difference in wicking. I had success with running thin amounts (think very little) down the channels, but after getting the advice here from someone (sorry I forgot who exactly) to fluff up the edges it worked great.

Same amount of cotton, but fluffing the outside edges to look like a bow tie works perfectly.

My rant: I don't consider myself a newbie, I've been vaping for close to 2 years... And admittedly when I read the comment to fluff the edges of thought that will not change a thing. But I tried it anyway, and that simple action made all the difference! Moral? Don't knock it until you try it. This board and I'm sure other boards where users of said device give you advice, are giving it for a reason. It sounds simple but it works like a charm.

Thank you all who contribute to this and other threads with helpful comments and not sarcasm, or search, or ignore the question if you know (or think you know) the answer. It's because of people who contribute helpful advice that make ECF a great resource and keeps people coming back.

 

[Rikk]

I would like to confirm that on the W deck, if you wick with cotton, fluff up the edges, cut even the edge of the deck, fluff those "shoulders" up like crazy, like cartoon fluffy, that alone makes all the difference in wicking. I had success with running thin amounts (think very little) down the channels, but after getting the advice here from someone (sorry I forgot who exactly) to fluff up the edges it worked great.

Same amount of cotton, but fluffing the outside edges to look like a bow tie works perfectly.

My rant: I don't consider myself a newbie, I've been vaping for close to 2 years... And admittedly when I read the comment to fluff the edges of thought that will not change a thing. But I tried it anyway, and that simple action made all the difference! Moral? Don't knock it until you try it. This board and I'm sure other boards where users of said device give you advice, are giving it for a reason. It sounds simple but it works like a charm.

Thank you all who contribute to this and other threads with helpful comments and not sarcasm, or search, or ignore the question if you know (or think you know) the answer. It's because of people who contribute helpful advice that make ECF a great resource and keeps people coming back.

You forgot who....how could you forget who. Um, guess I'm not that memorable.....Not

 

[Phone Guy]

It was Rikk! And I thank him very much!

 

[nevillebartos]

REALLY! /lol /joke

You guys are much braver than I am if you wish to enlarge the 4 juice holes on the B deck. I'm assuming you cult members are vaping max vg or 100% vg??????

I vape 50/50 and my apple mix is far from clear. Of course I wish you good luck. For some, proper wicking will remain a challenge because the B deck delivers SO MUCH juice with the 4 stock air holes. Of course for those that use a WIDE BORE drip tip and I'm betting you are ?? I can see where the B deck may not deliver enough juice for you. Especially those that take HUGE long draws and saturate their lungs. Lots of variables going on. /lol That's just my take on the issue.

interesting, wide bore and high VG is me, I may grab a 2nd B deck for some experimentation.. good excuse to buy new tools anyway

 

[Rikk]

It was Rikk! And I thank him very much!

Hahaha, Just sharing the knowledge that I learned from the first few pages of this thread. And I'll be damned if I can remember his/her name.