Official update post for PIF

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Good Dog !! I am soo glad to see you are here!!! you have no idea how glad I am !


You aren't even close on your speculations, drozd. Why do you need to create more confusion by going through all the posts and guessing at what happened? Nothing was taken to the mods! Let it die down.

I totally agree with this, stiring the pot with idle speculation and pushing changes that no one wants is just making the situation worse.
 

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lol...being chained to a battery charger gets alot of us eventually....what are you using as hardware anyway?


love my 808 xtr long and the 808D-2 batts - but hate the charging stuff...
lol
but, the thought of 'smoking" something that doenst look like a ciggy makes me cringe.......but, I think Im starting to get over it...hehe
 

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Good Dog !! I am soo glad to see you are here!!! you have no idea how glad I am !




I totally agree with this, stiring the pot with idle speculation and pushing changes that no one wants is just making the situation worse.


ok - please............let it go..............lets move on...........please???

lets bring the fun back:toast:
 

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Good Dog !! I am soo glad to see you are here!!! you have no idea how glad I am !




I totally agree with this, stiring the pot with idle speculation and pushing changes that no one wants is just making the situation worse.
with the exception of exact timeline...and exactly what went down between mods here and ECF mods...and ecactly what the final straw was that made jules leave...it's really not idle speculation...the rest I all saw happen and go down as it was happening...
if you care to prove me wrong on anything else I'll gladly accept a PM and will publically retract anything I was truely wrong on...

other than that all I'm saying is things should be examined...stick your head in the sand if you like, go about business as usual if you like, we can all choose to partcipate in the PIF thread if we like (as it stands now I may occasionally add to something but won't be partaking of that thread as I don't feel it's true PIF)...the only thing I'm pushing is that we examine our actions and see why we're suddenly driving away people...if that's happening then something must be wrong....and I choose to NOT ignore that fact..
 

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love my 808 xtr long and the 808D-2 batts - but hate the charging stuff...
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but, the thought of 'smoking" something that doenst look like a ciggy makes me cringe.......but, I think Im starting to get over it...hehe

oh that's right you've got that D-2 that seems to be not cross compatable with anything...and can only get stuff from like 2 places...hrmmm....

we gotta get you a KR808D-1 cartos at least and something to go with it...
 

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with the exception of exact timeline...and exactly what went down between mods here and ECF mods...and ecactly what the final straw was that made jules leave...it's really not idle speculation...the rest I all saw happen and go down as it was happening...
if you care to prove me wrong on anything else I'll gladly accept a PM and will publically retract anything I was truely wrong on...

other than that all I'm saying is things should be examined...stick your head in the sand if you like, go about business as usual if you like, we can all choose to partcipate in the PIF thread if we like (as it stands now I may occasionally add to something but won't be partaking of that thread as I don't feel it's true PIF)...the only thing I'm pushing is that we examine our actions and see why we're suddenly driving away people...if that's happening then something must be wrong....and I choose to NOT ignore that fact..
I dont understand the need to keep bringing this up. What's done is done, I seriously think there is nothing we can no to change it. We need to focus on the progress being made here. Gooddog and Neph are back. That is a first step.
I myself dont think there was anything terribly bad wrong with the group besides a few outsiders taking advantage of everyone being wonderful and generous.
 
with the exception of exact timeline...and exactly what went down between mods here and ECF mods...and ecactly what the final straw was that made jules leave...it's really not idle speculation...the rest I all saw happen and go down as it was happening...
if you care to prove me wrong on anything else I'll gladly accept a PM and will publically retract anything I was truely wrong on...

other than that all I'm saying is things should be examined...stick your head in the sand if you like, go about business as usual if you like, we can all choose to partcipate in the PIF thread if we like (as it stands now I may occasionally add to something but won't be partaking of that thread as I don't feel it's true PIF)...the only thing I'm pushing is that we examine our actions and see why we're suddenly driving away people...if that's happening then something must be wrong....and I choose to NOT ignore that fact..

Well i for one, didnt watch it happen, i am just living in the aftermath...if you really sat back and watched it unfold, and did nothing to try to intervene, that speaks volumes about your character...

as far as the PIF thread is concerned...i think most people, most active people anyways, will want the thread left as it is...its not broken..
 

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I'm with you sensay.....what was so broken???

We lost important parts of our group....but I don't think it was because the whole way the group works needs to be abandoned. Unless you erect very high walls, some abuse will occur. Isolated incidences of that kind of action are pretty self policing and do not overshadow the good that has taken place here.

Leave it like it is.....get some leadership in place we can support, and if you don't choose to participate for whatever reason or at whatever time, feel absolutely right and free to make that choice.

Just sayin.....
 

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I dont understand the need to keep bringing this up. What's done is done, I seriously think there is nothing we can no to change it. We need to focus on the progress being made here. Gooddog and Neph are back. That is a first step.
I myself dont think there was anything terribly bad wrong with the group besides a few outsiders taking advantage of everyone being wonderful and generous.

Sensay....with all due respect...I had my say, and pointed out what I felt needed to be pointed out...I'm more than happy to leave it at that...but when I'm quoted or adressed I'll respond to it... I find it a common courtesy to respond to rather than ignore...
I do find it interesting in that it gives me a good indication of the persons behind the posts as far as a true PIF capacity goes and who I'll choose to trust and interact with in the future...
 

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We've learned from our mistakes and will move forward with that knowledge. :)

Ditto...

Some of us are choosing to keep the true meaning of PIF alive and continue on because if we don't continue on, the bad seeds win. I really am not understanding why a few people don't think the PIF thread isn't a "true" PIF!?!?! Have you looked at it lately?!?
 
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