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GIMike

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And once again our favorite troll shows up in the comments section.
That guy reacts to our posted news articles faster than we do.

I think it's cause he trolls here and waits to find out what we're trying to do that's good so he can go put it down. Is his account still open here? Methinks it shouldn't be.....

I could almost understand the complaints about ecigs if they were true. The only one I don't get, is the "25 feet away from the building" mentioned in that article. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't this mostly done to keep burning butts from catching the building on fire? Do they seriously consider the e-cig the same as a cigarette when it comes to being a fire hazard when in use? (charging is something different altogether)
 

rothenbj

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I just had to comment-

Extremely superficial research done by the author resulting in inaccurate conclusions. After 43 years of smoking 2-3 packs a day, I know full well the benefits of products such as E Cigs. No more coughing and wheezing, no longer out of breath. I tried all the NRT products, Zyban, herbal remedies, cold turkey, hypnosis (twice) and every other method that had come along the last 35 years or so. Just like Electricman, eventually, I fell off the wagon and was back smoking again (yes, I'm aware of your history and I just told you mine). I thought I had a personal problem until I found I was just like 95-98% of smokers that try to quit. That's the chances of relapsing after 20 months of quitting cigarettes.

However, here I am over 2 years from my first E Cig and I haven't taken a single drag, not one, in over a year and seven months. That's a lot more than Electricman can honestly state in his holier than thou statements.

To the author I'd just recommend reading the report that the FDA did their dog and pony show from. As opposed to indicating danger, they actually proved E Cigs to be much SAFER. Perhaps not SAFE, as Electricman seems to obsess about, but MUCH SAFER than smoking. Finally, to Electricman, I truly hope you make it this time if indeed you haven't smoked for awhile. I know it's been a difficult battle for you.

You have to feel for the guy, he's on that rollercoaster ride and is so obsessed with smoking.
 

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jesus christ does electric man have any life at all? also somebody reply to his latest comment please:

Nicotine Binding to Receptor Linked to Breast Cancer Cell Growth
http://m.jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/102/17/NP.2.full?etoc

NICOTINE CAN FACILITATE THE PROGRESSION AND METASTASIS OF TUMORS INITIATED BY tobacco Our earlier results indicated that nicotine could induce invasion and epithelial-mesenchymal transition (EMT) in cultured lung, breast and pancreatic cancer cells. This study demonstrates for the first time that administration of nicotine either by i.p. injection or through over-the-counter dermal patches can promote tumor growth and metastasis in immunocompetent mice. These results suggest that while nicotine has only limited capacity to initiate tumor formation, it can facilitate the progression and metastasis of tumors pre-initiated by tobacco carcinogens. http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi ... ne.0007524

Nicotine induces cell proliferation, invasion and epithelial-mesenchymal transition in a variety of human cancer cell lines. Nicotine induces cell proliferation, invasion a... [Int J Cancer. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI

Nicotine stimulates human lung cancer cell growth Nicotine stimulates human lung can... [Am J Respir Cell Mol Biol. 2007] - PubMed - NCBI
 

sqirl1

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jesus christ does electric man have any life at all? also somebody reply to his latest comment please:

Nicotine Binding to Receptor Linked to Breast Cancer Cell Growth
http://m.jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/102/17/NP.2.full?etoc

NICOTINE CAN FACILITATE THE PROGRESSION AND METASTASIS OF TUMORS INITIATED BY TOBACCO Our earlier results indicated that nicotine could induce invasion and epithelial-mesenchymal transition (EMT) in cultured lung, breast and pancreatic cancer cells. This study demonstrates for the first time that administration of nicotine either by i.p. injection or through over-the-counter dermal patches can promote tumor growth and metastasis in immunocompetent mice. These results suggest that while nicotine has only limited capacity to initiate tumor formation, it can facilitate the progression and metastasis of tumors pre-initiated by tobacco carcinogens. http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi ... ne.0007524

Nicotine induces cell proliferation, invasion and epithelial-mesenchymal transition in a variety of human cancer cell lines. Nicotine induces cell proliferation, invasion a... [Int J Cancer. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI

Nicotine stimulates human lung cancer cell growth Nicotine stimulates human lung can... [Am J Respir Cell Mol Biol. 2007] - PubMed - NCBI
 

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OK. This was not addressed to electricman, but rather to any women who might read the comments and worry about their risks.

Research conducted at the cellular level can only hint at what might actually happen in the human body. Even animal experiments are not proof of what will happen in the human body under real-life conditions. The National Cancer Institute provides this information about breast cancer risk. "This report estimates that, based on current rates, 12.2 percent of women born in the United States today will develop breast cancer at some time in their lives. This estimate is based on breast cancer statistics for the years 2005 through 2007.

This estimate means that, if the current rate stays the same, women born now have an average risk of 12.2 percent (often expressed as “1 in 8”) of being diagnosed with breast cancer at some time in their lives. On the other hand, the chance that they will never have breast cancer is 87.8 percent (expressed as “7 in 8”)."

Here is a breast cancer risk calculator. Breast Cancer Risk Assessment Tool

I used the calculator and it told me that my risk is 2%. If nicotine does turn out to be a factor, it pales in comparison to having a personal or family history of breast cancer.
 

sqirl1

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No point in arguing with a drug addict "junkies " alway find excuses why the drug addiction they have is safe and not a problem... So who are you going to believe a drug addict or someone who defeated this drug addiction and it totally free from this dangerous addiction. So keep chronically smoking your e-cancerettes you can be one of the test subjects that show the dangers of e-smoking after you die.

then why... why..... WHY do you take the time out of your day to go to our forum, read our posts, and stalk us in the comments of the articles we link to here? if we're just desperate drug addicts why do you care? are you even of old enough TO smoke in the first place? you sure don't act like it. it's like this is all a giant game to you, and hell I did pretty much what you're doing.... when I was about 13, so I can see where this is fun when you're an immature autistic middle schooler (and for the record I HAVE autism so I'm allowed to say that) but MOST people either grow out of it or at least learn better trolling techniques by the time they're about 16. so either learn to troll better or kindly get the ____ out of here. thank you and good day to you sir.
PS
you say you're free from drug dependency, but is that really true? maybe nicotine, but how many pills do you have to pop to stay functional? If I had to guess you're on at least one of the following drugs:

Xanax
Perkoset
Prozac
Klonopin
Diazepam
Zoloft
or chlordiazepoxide

if you're on any of these do everybody a favor and just stop talking. those are a hell of a lot worse than nicotine, despite the bullcrap the drug companies are popping in your head. the drug companies are liars who only get half of their crap passed through bribery because they're so rich and powerful. if you can't wrap your head around that, I'm done with you.
 

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I think it's helpful to realize that Electricman is helping us.
Well, as long as we respond reasonably to the garbage he spews.
:)

He is giving us an opportunity to make a lot of points and provide very good information.
And he is showing what it is like to be an irrational hater who equates nicotine with the dangers of smoking.

In other words, he's probably making a lot of irrational haters look in the mirror.
 

Liv2Ski

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I think Electricman is climbing the walls for a cigarette.

Or maybe he/she is just a sexually frustrated individual that has way too much time on their hands. Most likely living off the system on our tax dollars. I look at it this way ---- if we did not have stupid people in the world who would we laugh at????? Thanks for the laughs electricman.
 

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When will people learn......

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