Oh my goodness, Provape is no more!

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DPLongo22

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I honestly didn't realize it was your post until I went back a read it again, and I thought there were others. That will require more back-tracking. :)

Admittedly my mistake.

You're a good man (no gender-assumption intended). I hope to admit as quickly to the 346 mistakes I'll likely make today. ;)

Lessons learned, and appreciated. Happy Saturday! :toast::vapor:
 

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I am 10 W vaper. Money is not a problem for me. But I am always price/quality/usability conscious buyer, and because of it I never considered ProVape products as something suitable for me. Comparing Radius to Pico I see only drawbacks for Radius: price, tiny screen, no TC. Reliability does not matter here, because for the price of one Radius I can buy 7-8 Picos, and they without doubt outlive single Radius (not to mention they all will be obsolete much earlier). So, ProVape was for ProVape fans. It's not bad. It's even good, if not for obsessive advises of ProVape fans 3 years ago, when I was choosing my first mod.
It's like with Apple fans (with exception that for Apple price difference with it's competitors is much smaller)

And about safety again.
Why some people think Provari is safer than other mods? What additional safety features it has?
 

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    Years ago Provari owners requested a higher powered device compatible with current vaping trends.

    They were asked by so many people that they posted a disclaimer refusing to do so.

    It was such a terrible idea, and cost them so many potential sales, they eventually released the Radius.
    But it was underpowered and overpriced for the market.
    Too little, too late.

    They should have listened to potential customers instead of past customers.

    Nope, wasn't a terrible idea at all. I tip my hat to any company that sets their standards and sticks to them. Doesn't make any difference whether you or I liked their standards, they were theirs, not ours.

    So quit with all the hate! It was their company and they were free to do as they wished. Yours or my opinions were not part of the equation.
     

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    You're a good man (no gender-assumption intended). I hope to admit as quickly to the 346 mistakes I'll likely make today. ;)

    Lessons learned, and appreciated. Happy Saturday! :toast::vapor:

    Gender acquisition correct. Thanks for the candor.
     

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    Years ago Provari owners requested a higher powered device compatible with current vaping trends.

    They were asked by so many people that they posted a disclaimer refusing to do so.

    It was such a terrible idea, and cost them so many potential sales, they eventually released the Radius.
    But it was underpowered and overpriced for the market.
    Too little, too late.

    They should have listened to potential customers instead of past customers.

    maybe they went to Reddit and asked themselves ... are these immature, foul mouthed, cloud chucking, hobby vapers what we want to cater to?

    maybe they decided to just stick to the plan and help folks quit smoking with safe devices that last a lifetime.
     

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    And about safety again.
    Why some people think Provari is safer than other mods? What additional safety features it has?

    That's actually pretty easy to answer. It was all about the quality of the components used. As time went on their were other companies that stepped up to the plate and produced quality products, and they should be commended for that. But, it should be recognized that Provape set a high standard very early on.
     

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    They owe their customers the warranty support they sold them.

    What they brought to the industry was a highly promoted product, with a false warranty, that fell short in the end.

    Your information is incorrect. If you're interested in their continuing warranty services, I recommend going to the source and doing a bit of research.

    Everyone is covered (I am not part of the group that requires it). I give them credit - very few companies take such steps.

    I don't worship any company. I like some, dislike others. I liked ProVape (obviously).

    Preferences are personal, as are attitudes.
     

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    I am 10 W vaper. Money is not a problem for me. But I am always price/quality/usability conscious buyer, and because of it I never considered ProVape products as something suitable for me. Comparing Radius to Pico I see only drawbacks for Radius: price, tiny screen, no TC. Reliability does not matter here, because for the price of one Radius I can buy 7-8 Picos, and they without doubt outlive single Radius (not to mention they all will be obsolete much earlier). So, ProVape was for ProVape fans. It's not bad. It's even good, if not for obsessive advises of ProVape fans 3 years ago, when I was choosing my first mod.
    It's like with Apple fans (with exception that for Apple price difference with it's competitors is much smaller)

    And about safety again.
    Why some people think Provari is safer than other mods? What additional safety features it has?
    Honestly though.

    Your biggest gripe is price.

    And seems the only real one you have for the device itself.

    When for more than a year now, you could have had a Provari 2.5 for $35.

    So I don't know why you're even here.

    I wasn't going to say anything earlier.

    But there's nothing left of this dead horse.

    You're now beating a hole into the ground.

    I don't get it.

    You could have had a device for the rest of your life in your price range. Shrug...

    Tapatyped
     

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    That's actually pretty easy to answer. It was all about the quality of the components used. As time went on their were other companies that stepped up to the plate and produced quality products, and they should be commended for that. But, it should be recognized that Provape set a high standard very early on.
    That's actually pretty easy to answer. It was all about the quality of the components used. As time went on their were other companies that stepped up to the plate and produced quality products, and they should be commended for that. But, it should be recognized that Provape set a high standard very early on.
    May be it was true when vaping industry was immature. But now? As I see it it's just a belief of fans. Can you name an accident with a regulated device in the last year?
     
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    Honestly though.

    Your biggest gripe is price.

    And seems the only real one you have for the device itself.

    When for more than a year now, you could have had a Provari 2.5 for $35.

    So I don't know why you're even here.

    I wasn't going to say anything earlier.

    But there's nothing left of this dead horse.

    You're now beating a hole into the ground.

    I don't get it.

    You could have had a device for the rest of your life in your price range. Shrug...

    Tapatyped
    Today I use only box mods. Often in TC. So?
    Why would I buy outdated one-button Provari 2.5 for $35 when I have Pico for $25, which is much better for me? But it's only personal preferences. And why are you even talking about close-up sail prices?

    EDIT: and my "biggest gripe" was not a price, but price/quality/usability, as I already mentioned. Price alone cannot be deciding factor.
     

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    Today I use only box mods. Often in TC. So?
    Why would I buy outdated one-button Provari 2.5 for $35 when I have Pico for $25, which is much better for me? But it's only personal preferences. And why are you even talking about close-up sail prices?

    EDIT: and my "biggest gripe" was not a price, but price/quality/usability, as I already mentioned. Price alone cannot be deciding factor.

    Now you get it! So why the gripe if someone says their "personal preference" is a Provari?

    My "personal preference" is a Caravela, but that probably has nothing to do with why Provape closed their doors.
     

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    Nope, wasn't a terrible idea at all. I tip my hat to any company that sets their standards and sticks to them. Doesn't make any difference whether you or I liked their standards, they were theirs, not ours.

    So quit with all the hate! It was their company and they were free to do as they wished. Yours or my opinions were not part of the equation.


    They are closing their doors.
    Obviously it mattered.

    I dont own stock in provape. There is zero emotion in my posts concerning my observation of their business model.

    You are projecting your emotions onto my posts.


    That said, if you were an investor, you wouldn't be heaping praise on them, as you would stand to lose your investment.
    Welcome to the wonderful world of business.
    Your information is incorrect. If you're interested in their continuing warranty services, I recommend going to the source and doing a bit of research.

    Everyone is covered (I am not part of the group that requires it). I give them credit - very few companies take such steps.

    I don't worship any company. I like some, dislike others. I liked ProVape (obviously).

    Preferences are personal, as are attitudes.


    Just stop.
    Your experience with SuperT must be special.
    How fast did they service your Mod?
    Oh yeah.. You said above that dont own one.
    I own 3.
    Stop regurgitating false information.

    My actual experience with them as a customer differs from your supposition.
     

    DPLongo22

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    I'm thinking lemonade will be served sometime later today. At this pace, we'll all be pretty thirsty by then so this is a good thing.

    Shall we start a pool as to what time this event will occur? All I've got right now is that today's the day. I have to think about time.

    I've got it! I'll make it personal. I predict lemonade (and associated thread-closure) will occur at precisely 22:22 EST. There's a Vaping 360 tank band in it for the winner. They may even select either black or white! Heck - they can have BOTH.

    Billet Box NOT included.

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    My actual experience with them as a customer differs from your supposition.

    You're referring to Super T, or Provape?

    Provape has provided warranty service (DPL's information is certainly not false, nor regurgitated for that matter).
     

    Alien Traveler

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    Now you get it! So why the gripe if someone says their "personal preference" is a Provari?

    My "personal preference" is a Caravela, but that probably has nothing to do with why Provape closed their doors.
    May be you missed my previous posts.
    I have nothing against Provari collectors (it looks like nobody has just one Provari, at least when reading ECF).
    I have nothing against ProVape.
    But I was greatly annoyed by ProVape fans 3 years ago, when I (and many others) were choosing the very first mod. The overall impression from their advises was "you cannot properly vape without Provari"...
    Thant's it.
     

    DPLongo22

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    Just stop.
    Your experience with SuperT must be special.
    How fast did they service your Mod?
    Oh yeah.. You said above that dont own one.
    I own 3.
    Stop regurgitating false information.

    My actual experience with them as a customer differs from your supposition.

    I apologize. I thought you were talking about ProVape's warranty service (which HAS been extended to impacted clients). My bad - so sorry.

    For the record, I was referring to ProVape, which might have been obvious since I, as you accurately pointed out, never owned a Super T (other than drip-tips).

    Anyone seen Uncle Bob?
     
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