@leftyandsparky erlkonigin is a tank
Except;From a business standpoint, ProVape closing is completely understandable. Under the FDA deeming, new product development is pointless unless one chooses to go offshore and try to stay under the radar on the grey market. Although they had come out with multiple new products over the last couple years, there was no future growth on the horizon.
Once future new products were eliminated, holding out until 8/18 wasn't practical. One simple issue is lease renewal. Most commercial leases are for multiple years. Assuming they were coming up on renewal on their facility and projected declining revenues with no new products and a forced closure (thanks FDA) within two years, entering into a new lease commitment would be foolish.
Although Provape's focus on safety and quality kept them from pumping out products that approached the safety limits of batteries, they were coming out with new devices regularly and would certainly have been able to maintain a good volume of business given their like minded loyal customer base. That they couldn't project a future of sustained business with more new products was decided by the FDA.
So if you never owned a Provari you're not allowed an opinion? Good lord.
RIP Provape, say hi to Super T for me.
Of COURSE you are (assuming you're referring to my post). Intent is relevant.
For example, I DID go into both Super T and Reo threads, simply to pay a very short homage. Never an owner, but I appreciated what both brought to the industry. I didn't remain, because they weren't devices to my preference, and I didn't belong.
I also didn't chose to stay JUST to make the point, over and over, of WHY I didn't prefer them. Irrelevant, personal, and very subjective (all).
Tipped my cap, moved on.
Again - my initial post was also personal and subjective. It's something I've NEVER understood, and have said it many times previously here. My eyes don't even see threads that aren't relevant to what I'm looking for. I'm not kidding - semi oblivious? Sure.
Do I care?
Nope. We've all got stuff to do.
What fallacy was proven years ago?
Years ago Provari owners requested a higher powered device compatible with current vaping trends.
They were asked by so many people that they posted a disclaimer refusing to do so.
It was such a terrible idea, and cost them so many potential sales, they eventually released the Radius.
But it was underpowered and overpriced for the market.
Too little, too late.
They should have listened to potential customers instead of past customers.
Of COURSE you are (assuming you're referring to my post). Intent is relevant.
For example, I DID go into both Super T and Reo threads, simply to pay a very short homage. Never an owner, but I appreciated what both brought to the industry. I didn't remain, because they weren't devices to my preference, and I didn't belong.
I also didn't chose to stay JUST to make the point, over and over, of WHY I didn't prefer them. Irrelevant, personal, and very subjective (all).
Tipped my cap, moved on.
Again - my initial post was also personal and subjective. It's something I've NEVER understood, and have said it many times previously here. My eyes don't even see threads that aren't relevant to what I'm looking for. I'm not kidding - semi oblivious? Sure.
Do I care?
Nope. We've all got stuff to do.
Of COURSE you are (assuming you're referring to my post). Intent is relevant.
For example, I DID go into both Super T and Reo threads, simply to pay a very short homage. Never an owner, but I appreciated what both brought to the industry. I didn't remain, because they weren't devices to my preference, and I didn't belong.
I also didn't chose to stay JUST to make the point, over and over, of WHY I didn't prefer them. Irrelevant, personal, and very subjective (all).
Tipped my cap, moved on.
Again - my initial post was also personal and subjective. It's something I've NEVER understood, and have said it many times previously here. My eyes don't even see threads that aren't relevant to what I'm looking for. I'm not kidding - semi oblivious? Sure.
Do I care?
Nope. We've all got stuff to do.
Homage?
SuperT slacked off with quality and screwed over alot of customers who needed warranty support for their poorly made gear.
Me included.
When the cash flow slowed they turned their backs on the industry that supported their products and the customers who promoted them.
Homage.
Give me a break.
I guess it was you post that prompted mine after all.
Folks are entitled to post their opinions regardless of motivation as long as they are respectful. Problem is that some take things too personally, which leads to escalation, and you know...
No.
I said that I appreciate what each brought to the industry, and that's the truth. None of these companies owes or owed us anything. They can do what they want, and did.
Had I NOT appreciated what they brought to the industry, I'd not have visited the thread. That's MY choice to make - not yours.
So give ME a break (smh).
Agreed. And your honesty is appreciated (since we both knew that it was my post).
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