Oh my goodness, Provape is no more!

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You've been telling us that for a long time Jim..shame Provape is no longer.. :(

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Actually...

They will be around until I pass and beyond.

They are the only vape that can be counted on in my house!

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From a business standpoint, ProVape closing is completely understandable. Under the FDA deeming, new product development is pointless unless one chooses to go offshore and try to stay under the radar on the grey market. Although they had come out with multiple new products over the last couple years, there was no future growth on the horizon.

Once future new products were eliminated, holding out until 8/18 wasn't practical. One simple issue is lease renewal. Most commercial leases are for multiple years. Assuming they were coming up on renewal on their facility and projected declining revenues with no new products and a forced closure (thanks FDA) within two years, entering into a new lease commitment would be foolish.

Although Provape's focus on safety and quality kept them from pumping out products that approached the safety limits of batteries, they were coming out with new devices regularly and would certainly have been able to maintain a good volume of business given their like minded loyal customer base. That they couldn't project a future of sustained business with more new products was decided by the FDA.
Except;
1 business isn't like residential

Negotiations for a short term lease are possible

2 it was a business choice not to enter the obvious current climate of the business they were in

They had plenty of warning and obvious signs of where their market was heading.

It would have served their core customers better to stay open longer even if it meant creating JUST ONE product that was outside of their usual M.O. to keep sales up and revenue to keep them afloat to the bitter end.

I can only imagine how many 120W, dual battery, tc mods they'd have sold if they designed one in time.

They had a BOAT LOAD of customers just waiting to pull the trigger on such a product of their quality standards.

Shame really. TP'ers and clouders alike are truly losing out for that lack of foresight.

And Provape fans lose a stellar company 1.5 years early.

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So if you never owned a Provari you're not allowed an opinion? Good lord.

RIP Provape, say hi to Super T for me.

Of COURSE you are (assuming you're referring to my post). Intent is relevant.

For example, I DID go into both Super T and Reo threads, simply to pay a very short homage. Never an owner, but I appreciated what both brought to the industry. I didn't remain, because they weren't devices to my preference, and I didn't belong.

I also didn't chose to stay JUST to make the point, over and over, of WHY I didn't prefer them. Irrelevant, personal, and very subjective (all).

Tipped my cap, moved on.

Again - my initial post was also personal and subjective. It's something I've NEVER understood, and have said it many times previously here. My eyes don't even see threads that aren't relevant to what I'm looking for. I'm not kidding - semi oblivious? Sure.

Do I care?

Nope. We've all got stuff to do.
 

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Of COURSE you are (assuming you're referring to my post). Intent is relevant.

For example, I DID go into both Super T and Reo threads, simply to pay a very short homage. Never an owner, but I appreciated what both brought to the industry. I didn't remain, because they weren't devices to my preference, and I didn't belong.

I also didn't chose to stay JUST to make the point, over and over, of WHY I didn't prefer them. Irrelevant, personal, and very subjective (all).

Tipped my cap, moved on.

Again - my initial post was also personal and subjective. It's something I've NEVER understood, and have said it many times previously here. My eyes don't even see threads that aren't relevant to what I'm looking for. I'm not kidding - semi oblivious? Sure.

Do I care?

Nope. We've all got stuff to do.

Nope. Not referring to any specific post. Thanks :)
 

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What fallacy was proven years ago?


Years ago Provari owners requested a higher powered device compatible with current vaping trends.

They were asked by so many people that they posted a disclaimer refusing to do so.

It was such a terrible idea, and cost them so many potential sales, they eventually released the Radius.
But it was underpowered and overpriced for the market.
Too little, too late.

They should have listened to potential customers instead of past customers.
 

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Years ago Provari owners requested a higher powered device compatible with current vaping trends.

They were asked by so many people that they posted a disclaimer refusing to do so.

It was such a terrible idea, and cost them so many potential sales, they eventually released the Radius.
But it was underpowered and overpriced for the market.
Too little, too late.

They should have listened to potential customers instead of past customers.

This.

I would gladly have purchased a Provape product, but nothing interested me.
 

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Of COURSE you are (assuming you're referring to my post). Intent is relevant.

For example, I DID go into both Super T and Reo threads, simply to pay a very short homage. Never an owner, but I appreciated what both brought to the industry. I didn't remain, because they weren't devices to my preference, and I didn't belong.

I also didn't chose to stay JUST to make the point, over and over, of WHY I didn't prefer them. Irrelevant, personal, and very subjective (all).

Tipped my cap, moved on.

Again - my initial post was also personal and subjective. It's something I've NEVER understood, and have said it many times previously here. My eyes don't even see threads that aren't relevant to what I'm looking for. I'm not kidding - semi oblivious? Sure.

Do I care?

Nope. We've all got stuff to do.

Homage?
:facepalm:

SuperT slacked off with quality and screwed over alot of customers who needed warranty support for their poorly made gear.
Me included.
When the cash flow slowed they turned their backs on the industry that supported their products and the customers who promoted them.


Homage.
Give me a break.
 
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True..just wished they had produced a mod suited better to subohm.. without all the whistles and bells (safety overkill), have at least 75-80w available and fire down to 0.15 ohms..they could've built it but didn't..like I've mentioned before I'm a DL hitter, and prefer subohm these days..
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The little white mod is the IPVD3..
single 18650, fires down to 0.15 ohms with 80w available, and was only $41 (101Vape)
My point is if the Chinese could build this mod why couldn't Provape? I wouldve bought it in a heartbeat for the legendary provape quality, :)

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Of COURSE you are (assuming you're referring to my post). Intent is relevant.

For example, I DID go into both Super T and Reo threads, simply to pay a very short homage. Never an owner, but I appreciated what both brought to the industry. I didn't remain, because they weren't devices to my preference, and I didn't belong.

I also didn't chose to stay JUST to make the point, over and over, of WHY I didn't prefer them. Irrelevant, personal, and very subjective (all).

Tipped my cap, moved on.

Again - my initial post was also personal and subjective. It's something I've NEVER understood, and have said it many times previously here. My eyes don't even see threads that aren't relevant to what I'm looking for. I'm not kidding - semi oblivious? Sure.

Do I care?

Nope. We've all got stuff to do.

Went back and reread the thread, and I guess it was your post that prompted mine after all.

Folks are entitled to post their opinions regardless of motivation as long as they are respectful. Problem is that some take things too personally, which leads to escalation, and you know...
 

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Homage?
:facepalm:

SuperT slacked off with quality and screwed over alot of customers who needed warranty support for their poorly made gear.
Me included.
When the cash flow slowed they turned their backs on the industry that supported their products and the customers who promoted them.


Homage.
Give me a break.

No.

I said that I appreciate what each brought to the industry, and that's the truth. None of these companies owes or owed us anything. They can do what they want, and did.

Had I NOT appreciated what they brought to the industry, I'd not have visited the thread. That's MY choice to make - not yours.

So give ME a break (smh).
 

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I guess it was you post that prompted mine after all.

Folks are entitled to post their opinions regardless of motivation as long as they are respectful. Problem is that some take things too personally, which leads to escalation, and you know...

Agreed. And your honesty is appreciated (since we both knew that it was my post).

For the record, every Provi I own is of the older variety (v2-2.5). That too was my choice to make. I'm quite happy with them.

I've many other devices, by many other manufacturers. They owed me nothing, other than what I paid for. We had a very good relationship - mutually beneficial.
 

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No.

I said that I appreciate what each brought to the industry, and that's the truth. None of these companies owes or owed us anything. They can do what they want, and did.

Had I NOT appreciated what they brought to the industry, I'd not have visited the thread. That's MY choice to make - not yours.

So give ME a break (smh).


They owe their customers the warranty support they sold them.

What they brought to the industry was a highly promoted product, with a false warranty, that fell short in the end.

They brought bad business to thw industry and repaid customers with a big FU.

If people would stop patting these poorly ran "companies" on the back, and stop with the blind brand loyalty maybe we wouldnt see so many fail.

So yes, give me a break from the brand worship.

I call em like I see em.
 
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Agreed. And your honesty is appreciated (since we both knew that it was my post).

....

I honestly didn't realize it was your post until I went back a read it again, and I thought there were others. That will require more back-tracking. :)

Admittedly my mistake.
 
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