Oh my goodness, Provape is no more!

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If things don't change, I'm not sure if Evolve will continue in the vape market.

Why not? Their business model is a lot better for survival than Provape's. They sell regulator boards and software. I'm not sure where their actual chips (the ones on the board) are sourced from, but given the way components are made, my money is on overseas. The boards may very well could be (maybe they are already) assembled overseas. Third party vendors, mostly overseas, design, assemble, package, and sell the finished mod to the public.

Even if a single Evolv based mod was never sold in the US tomorrow, dna mods will still find homes in Europe, Asia, and elsewhere. Evolv software can be developed and hosted from anywhere. Yes, Evolv might have to sacrifice the hobbyist market by not selling individual boards to retail customers, and they might have to create a new model for corporate function to be conducted beyond US borders (hey, you don't have to relocate to China, nothing wrong with Bermuda and outsource assembly to China, works great for Black & Decker) but it's not the same as packing up a full on factory like Provape and moving to Asia.

Then again, if Provape really wanted to stay in business they could have relocated manufacturing outside the US. Still lose a bunch of US jobs, but if your business was profitable, it could have been done.
 
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A while back I almost ordered the 60w Radius..
But after watching a YouTube video I didn't like the two knob battery door....
Also didn't like the special P3 threading...it was either use a 510 adapter or buy the $90 Kubuki that used natiluus coils..and finally was disappointed it fired down only to only .3 ohm...plus the price of $200 was a turnoff...now that Provape folded I'm happy I saved my $200, lol


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I moved into American made mechanical box mods & RDA's awhile back, but glad I decided to keep my P3 & Provari classic in the collection.
Loved those mods back when I was an exclusive MTL'er.
Even though my vape style evolved past what Provape offered, still heartbroken to hear that they closed.
Sad that such a legendary staple in vape history is gone.
 

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you missed my point ... ProVarinati never went to the chinese mod threads to tell people they were junk.

and for the record ... most of the chinese mods were junk :blink:

Maybe, I'm not sure exactly which threads it was. I guess it doesn't really matter at this point. I think some of it was just the almost, religious ferver that some of the Provari users had for the company, that made them a target. It's the same for any product that has hardcore fanboys.
 

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    I use a Provari quite a bit. Provapes problem is that the Provari in my hand ATM is about 5 years old, and still looks & works like new. That does not bode well for ongoing sales projections.
    Unfortunate for us, but "quality" has led to their demise.

    They will be missed.

    Anyway, I digress.. the point i was going to make was, i wonder how stores that have invested in them so heavily will react?

    I recently saw an add for a "never used" Caravela (Pedro stopped making them a couple of years ago). The original price for them was $230.00, they wanted $3,000
     
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    Why not? Their business model is a lot better for survival than Provape's. They sell regulator boards and software. I'm not sure where their actual chips (the ones on the board) are sourced from, but given the way components are made, my money is on overseas. The boards may very well could be (maybe they are already) assembled overseas. Third party vendors, mostly overseas, design, assemble, package, and sell the finished mod to the public.

    Even if a single Evolv based mod was never sold in the US tomorrow, DNA mods will still find homes in Europe, Asia, and elsewhere. Evolv software can be developed and hosted from anywhere. Yes, Evolv might have to sacrifice the hobbyist market by not selling individual boards to retail customers, and they might have to create a new model for corporate function to be conducted beyond US borders (hey, you don't have to relocate to China, nothing wrong with Bermuda and outsource assembly to China, works great for Black & Decker) but it's not the same as packing up a full on factory like Provape and moving to Asia.

    Then again, if Provape really wanted to stay in business they could have relocated manufacturing outside the US. Still lose a bunch of US jobs, but if your business was profitable, it could have been done.
    I agree and hope you are right. I suspect Evolve (and possibly Provape) have business plans that may not be e-cig related. Heck either company could jump into the other emerging market of "vaporizers" that can't be mentioned here.
     

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    A valid, although obvious over-reaching Generalization based upon purely personal & subjective perception(s), statement that probably does hold water in some specific Cases/Individuals.
    You was not here (on ECF) 3 years ago, and you are trying to make a statement? About "over-reaching" and "specifics"? Not funny.
     

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    I agree and hope you are right. I suspect Evolve (and possibly Provape) have business plans that may not be e-cig related. Heck either company could jump into the other emerging market of "vaporizers" that can't be mentioned here.

    I never thought about that one. Are the "other" vaporizers not effected by the Deeming regs?
     

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    My :2c: is that this wonderful and helpful forum lead me to owning 4 provari's, on the advice of many here it was suggested that I buy a istick, I had that baby in a shopping cart and what stopped me from purchasing it was that the were tons of threads with " help my istick".... so with that in mind I bought something that has held up.
    Best thing I did! Thank @WillyZee !!! Cigarette free for over a year!
     

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    Congress only gave the FDA the authority to regulate tobacco products. The FDA deemed nic free juice a tobacco product. (as crazy as that is)

    Probably because that's the only way they can control ENDS. If nic free juice was not a tobacco product they would have a harder time. It's all a bunch of (that stuff you don't want to step in).
     

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    You was not here (on ECF) 3 years ago, and you are trying to make a statement? About "over-reaching" and "specifics"? Not funny.

    Yet another flawed (although typical) Male Bovine Defecant ASSumption/Presumption on your part Sir.
    You Fail by:
    a. assuming "Join Date" equates to Perusal/Browsing initiation on my part.
    b. forgetting that ECF History is by definition an Archive so one is never "late to the Party.
    c. I wasn't making a "Statement". I was stating Fact. Generalizations by Definition are Over-Reaching, Flawed, and Invalid.

    At this point in your Hijack Coup, I am forced to accept, employ, and will defer to the inarguable and appropriate words of Wisdom & Truth from Twain,,,

    Twain Stupid Quote.jpg


    and leave you to Rage & Hate on.
    All the best and am truly sorry your Vendetta prohibits you from the real Point & Truth of this Vape-World Tragedy.
    Vape On & Enjoy :thumbs:
     
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    tj99959

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    You was not here (on ECF) 3 years ago, and you are trying to make a statement? About "over-reaching" and "specifics"? Not funny.

    I was here 3 years ago, and remember well.

    For those that liked vaping at less than 3.5a the Provari was one of the best products on the market at the time (and still would be).

    I also still have an old vamo , the switch even still works (about every 20th time I posh it). So yes the vamo was a pretty good mod ... just not nearly the quality, but you could buy three of them for the price of a Provari.
     

    Alien Traveler

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    Yet another flawed (although typical) Male Bovine Defecant ASSumption/Presumption on your part Sir.
    You Fail by:
    a. assuming "Join Date" equates to Perusal/Browsing initiation on my part.
    b. forgetting that ECF History is by definition an Archive so one is never "late to the Party.
    c. I wasn't making a "Statement". I was stating Fact. Generalizations by Definition are Over-Reaching, Flawed, and Invalid.

    At this point in your Hijack Coup, I am forced to accept, employ, and will defer to the inarguable and appropriate words of Wisdom & Truth from Twain,,,

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    and leave you to Rage & Hate on.
    All the best and am truly sorry your Vendetta prohibits you from the real Point & Truth of this Vape-World Tragedy.
    Vape On & Enjoy :thumbs:
    This idiocy does not require any reply. Sir.
     
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