Oh the Horror! Another Explode Episode!

[bluecat]

Except I'm not wrong because none of the four I was involved in raising when they were young turned into bratty little beasts who thought everyone else existed to serve them, and now that they're older, they're all be organized enough to have the shampoo and towel ready instead of expecting someone else to get it for them.

Keep saying that. You will eventually make yourself believe and maybe some weak willed people will agree.

I am not saying baby a teenage. Babying a baby? Come on now. Hey 1 month year old... go get you bath, I ain't helping you. Time for you to learn on your own. Dangit no I won't get your shampoo or soap. geeesh.

 

[ENAUD]

I wonder if she smashed his computer after he left for work...

 

[AndriaD]

Yes, I am triple psycho -- also not psychic

If us men were psychic then it would take all the fun and challenge away from you women -- If we catered to your every need and knew all your desires ahead of time then it would become a very boring world for Women to live in - hence the need for us Men to be stupid

Heh... I had a good example last night, in fact. Back last summer when I had the appendicitis, I got all mad at my husband for not helping me out of the truck when we got to the hospital -- but he pointed out that he didn't know I needed help -- which seems kinda brainless to me, considering the pain I was in (AGONY), but I have to consider, HE wasn't feeling that pain, he really didn't understand how bad it was.

Last night, on the way home from my parents (about a 40 minute drive)... all of a sudden, I started feeling really odd, really bad; thought it was simple nausea at first, but very soon realized that I was about to pass out -- so I said "I think I'm about to pass out," and managed to get bent over enough (still seat-belted!) to get my head down... I requested that he find someplace to stop, so I could lie down in the backseat of the truck.

When we did get stopped, I realized I was not capable of getting out of the truck by myself, as I didn't want my head to hit the pavement. So, in the loudest voice I could manage (a soft whisper), I said "can you help me?" Immediately he got out and came round to my side, prepared to do exactly that. But I realized that even with his help, if I tried to stand, I was probably going down, so I just asked him to help me get the seat-back lowered, and my feet up on the dash -- and he did exactly that, and then, when I asked, went into the store and got me a ginger ale.

When we got home, he asked if I was alright to get out, and walk to the door, and I was, but he stood and watched and waited, to make sure. When we got in, I lay down on the couch, and realized I was in no shape even to warm up leftovers, so I asked him how he felt about Sonic for dinner, and just to get me some tater tots, because I badly need carbs (it was the consumption of an entire 20pz pepsi that I think led to the problem in the first place, when all that sugar and caffeine burned out, it left me NOTHING, as I hadn't eaten in about 9 hrs). He went directly to Sonic, got his foot-long coney dog and my tots, came home, I ate, then went straight to bed -- at 11pm!

He did everything I ASKED FOR, but if I had not asked, he wouldn't have known what help I needed, I would have gotten mad at him for not being psychic, and he'd have gotten defensive, so we'd have had a screaming match. Which wouldn't have helped anything. By asking for what I needed, I got it, and my husband was glad to give it -- but he couldn't read my mind and KNOW what I needed.

Andria

 

[AXIOM_1]

Heh... I had a good example last night, in fact. Back last summer when I had the appendicitis, I got all mad at my husband for not helping me out of the truck when we got to the hospital -- but he pointed out that he didn't know I needed help -- which seems kinda brainless to me, considering the pain I was in (AGONY), but I have to consider, HE wasn't feeling that pain, he really didn't understand how bad it was.

Last night, on the way home from my parents (about a 40 minute drive)... all of a sudden, I started feeling really odd, really bad; thought it was simple nausea at first, but very soon realized that I was about to pass out -- so I said "I think I'm about to pass out," and managed to get bent over enough (still seat-belted!) to get my head down... I requested that he find someplace to stop, so I could lie down in the backseat of the truck.

When we did get stopped, I realized I was not capable of getting out of the truck by myself, as I didn't want my head to hit the pavement. So, in the loudest voice I could manage (a soft whisper), I said "can you help me?" Immediately he got out and came round to my side, prepared to do exactly that. But I realized that even with his help, if I tried to stand, I was probably going down, so I just asked him to help me get the seat-back lowered, and my feet up on the dash -- and he did exactly that, and then, when I asked, went into the store and got me a ginger ale.

When we got home, he asked if I was alright to get out, and walk to the door, and I was, but he stood and watched and waited, to make sure. When we got in, I lay down on the couch, and realized I was in no shape even to warm up leftovers, so I asked him how he felt about Sonic for dinner, and just to get me some tater tots, because I badly need carbs (it was the consumption of an entire 20pz pepsi that I think led to the problem in the first place, when all that sugar and caffeine burned out, it left me NOTHING, as I hadn't eaten in about 9 hrs). He went directly to Sonic, got his foot-long coney dog and my tots, came home, I ate, then went straight to bed -- at 11pm!

He did everything I ASKED FOR, but if I had not asked, he wouldn't have known what help I needed, I would have gotten mad at him for not being psychic, and he'd have gotten defensive, so we'd have had a screaming match. Which wouldn't have helped anything. By asking for what I needed, I got it, and my husband was glad to give it -- but he couldn't read my mind and KNOW what I needed.

Andria

uhmm -- all as I can say is that I don't think nothing like what you explained (the way he does) so I can't say if other males are like that or not --- I would have waited on you hand and foot because I knew you were not feeling well --- I wouldn't of had to have been asked the things that you had to ask him --- But of course, I am probably just weird for a male or something.

 

[Racehorse]

Even when they're infants, if you run and cater to their every whim the moment they start to fuss, they'll be ruined by the time they're old enough to understand, "Wait a moment, dear."

"oh, our 5 day infant is crying again...what should we do?"

"well don't just JUMP to his every whim, dear. We wouldn't want to spoil him and ruin him for later"

"yes, you're probably right. Let him lay there and cry for a while, lest we spoil him."



yikes. the amount of things that could go wrong with an infant are as long as my arm. Wouldn't be taking any chances with mine.


All this conversation is kinda moot anyway, since we haven't heard the other side. While the wife is being crucified for her bad behavior, like I said, maybe she is stuck doing everything all the time and finally busted a vein.

 

[AXIOM_1]

"oh, our 5 day infant is crying again...what should we do?"

"well don't just JUMP to his every whim, dear. We wouldn't want to spoil him and ruin him for later"

"yes, you're probably right. Let him lay there and cry for a while, lest we spoil him."



yikes. the amount of things that could go wrong with an infant are as long as my arm. Wouldn't be taking any chances with mine.


All this conversation is kinda moot anyway, since we haven't heard the other side. While the wife is being crucified for her bad behavior, like I said, maybe she is stuck doing everything all the time and finally busted a vein.

nope, that wouldn't be cool to do to an infant for sure -- I am "assuming" that @Rossum was referring to older kids.
Yeah this relationship expounding is indeed a moot point.
At the expense of the OP, it is sort of fun to joke about though

 

[hmar]

There is a difference between "needs" and "wants". It's not putting their "needs" ahead of our own that spoils children, it is allowing their "wants" to become "needs"

 

[AXIOM_1]

There is a difference between "needs" and "wants". It's not putting their "needs" ahead of our own that spoils children, it is allowing their "wants" to become "needs"

very true indeed

 

[AndriaD]

uhmm -- all as I can say is that I don't think nothing like what you explained (the way he does) so I can't say if other males are like that or not --- I would have waited on you hand and foot because I knew you were not feeling well --- I wouldn't of had to have been asked the things that you had to ask him --- But of course, I am probably just weird for a male or something.

He's rarely ever sick himself, so he just doesn't really get it, when I'm under the weather -- he kinda panics, I think, it's so unfamiliar to him, so any sort of conscious thought about what is happening just kinda goes out the window, and he awaits instructions. "Nurturing" really isn't his forte -- which is ok, if I can just manage to ask for what I need.

But when I was so sick last summer, unable to even get out of bed for any reason other than bathroom trips, he was handling all the kitchen stuff -- his meals, and cleaning up afterward -- and I didn't even realize it until I WAS able to get out of bed and stagger in here to my desk chair. He was washing dishes at the time -- I said "what are you doing?" He said "cleaning up... I've been doing it for 4 days." I was just pleased that he was able to cope with THAT much, while I was down for the count.

Andria

 

[Caterpiller]

Wow this thread has gone on way longer than the actual argument.

Thanks for you kind, and not so kind words, I opened the door so will take it without further complaint.

I fully accept I handled this situation badly, as did my wife.

We are now very much over it. The baby is fine, and very much loved by both parents.

The KFv4 remains dead.

 

[hmar]

Thanks for letting us know, caterpiller.

 

[crxess]

Am I the only one here just waiting for the OP to let us know that the baby is ok? In the early parts of my marriage(s) we had blow ups like this on occasion (sometimes her fault, sometimes mine) We were young and stupid with no inclination of what we had gotten ourselves into. I can't imagine pissing my wife off this much and then leaving the baby with her in this kind of rage. Not that either of my wives would have ever hurt the child, but this kind of rage leaves us vulnerable to decision making that is even worse than the ones that got us into the situation in the first place.
OP, please let us know that all is well, and good luck to both you and your wife. And baby.

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Ha! Posted while I was looking for him

 

[Breezy Dawn]

He's rarely ever sick himself, so he just doesn't really get it, when I'm under the weather -- he kinda panics, I think, it's so unfamiliar to him, so any sort of conscious thought about what is happening just kinda goes out the window, and he awaits instructions. "Nurturing" really isn't his forte -- which is ok, if I can just manage to ask for what I need.

But when I was so sick last summer, unable to even get out of bed for any reason other than bathroom trips, he was handling all the kitchen stuff -- his meals, and cleaning up afterward -- and I didn't even realize it until I WAS able to get out of bed and stagger in here to my desk chair. He was washing dishes at the time -- I said "what are you doing?" He said "cleaning up... I've been doing it for 4 days." I was just pleased that he was able to cope with THAT much, while I was down for the count.

Andria

A good fella,Sounds like a keeper!!

 

[AndriaD]

A good fella,Sounds like a keeper!!

Yep -- he also doesn't give a rip what I spend on vape stuff -- anything other than smoking is just fine with him! But he said if I ever wanted cigarettes again, I'd have to get a job and buy them myself. There's some incentive!

Andria

 

[HazyShades]

As told, I can see both sides.
On her part, she should have been organized with towel, shampoo, etc. before starting to bathe the baby.
On your part, could you not have just stopped the topping off until the bath was over?
But throwing stuff? Wow. Frustrated or not, no way do you throw things or punch walls or whatever because it doesn't solve anything and mostly creates additional problems.

I learned long ago that putting my fist through a wall
only accomplishes one thing; The wall will need to be repaired and I'll have to do it...
I rarely get angry enough to get violent but
when I do...that's why I have a punching bag hanging in the back yard.

 

[AndriaD]

I learned long ago that putting my fist through a wall
only accomplishes one thing; The wall will need to be repaired and I'll have to do it...
I rarely get angry enough to get violent but
when I do...that's why I have a punching bag hanging in the back yard.

ROFL! I used to have a real bad habit of throwing things... whatever glass or mug was in my hand at the time. I got tired of having to replace glassware and mugs (one of the mugs I broke was my favorite tea mug! horrors!) so I stopped doing it.

And that last incident, in 2004, when I got to visit the inside of the Winder jail... That one pretty much fixed any inclination to get physical, when angry. Now I just slam doors.

Andria

 

[USMCotaku]

"oh, our 5 day infant is crying again...what should we do?"

"well don't just JUMP to his every whim, dear. We wouldn't want to spoil him and ruin him for later"

"yes, you're probably right. Let him lay there and cry for a while, lest we spoil him."



yikes. the amount of things that could go wrong with an infant are as long as my arm. Wouldn't be taking any chances with mine.


All this conversation is kinda moot anyway, since we haven't heard the other side. While the wife is being crucified for her bad behavior, like I said, maybe she is stuck doing everything all the time and finally busted a vein.

There is actually strong precedent for NOT picking up an infant every time it cries. This is PROVEN to "spoil" the child, they learn to cry just for the attention quickly.
Of course you check it to make sure it's ok, but he is completely right, you don't cater to it 100%
You are trying to vilify his statement into ignoring an infant's actual needs...something he NEVER said.

Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping

 

[twgbonehead]

ROFL! I used to have a real bad habit of throwing things... whatever glass or mug was in my hand at the time. I got tired of having to replace glassware and mugs (one of the mugs I broke was my favorite tea mug! horrors!) so I stopped doing it.

And that last incident, in 2004, when I got to visit the inside of the Winder jail... That one pretty much fixed any inclination to get physical, when angry. Now I just slam doors.

Andria

I had a girlfriend, once, who had a tendency when she got upset, of throwing things at the people with whom she was upset.

For her birthday, she said she wanted an alarm clock (she had just gotten a new job). So I bought her one, a very nice one, about palm-sized, but very heavy.

When I gave it to her, I said "You realize, if you throw this at me, it will really do some damage. So I'm giving you this on the condition that you swear you will never throw it at me."

I never saw her throw anything in anger again. (She really did like the alarm clock). To this day, I'm not sure whether she thought I was saying "it would really do some damage to me", or whether she was thinking "It would damage my beautiful clock" but whatever it was, it did the trick!

 

[bluecat]

There is actually strong precedent for NOT picking up an infant every time it cries. This is PROVEN to "spoil" the child, they learn to cry just for the attention quickly.
Of course you check it to make sure it's ok, but he is completely right, you don't cater to it 100%
You are trying to vilify his statement into ignoring an infant's actual needs...something he NEVER said.

Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping

For simplicity sake, let's say the child leaves at 18. Of course the government wants them to remain children until they are 40 now for some reason.

Back to example.. 18 years at 365 days in a year equals 6,570 days. An infant is generally termed as 1 month through 1 year. 1/18th if you cater to the infants whims through a year. That will be 1/18th of the child's life until 18. or 365 days out of 6,570. Let's assume that same child lives until 80. That will be 1/80th of the life or 365 days out of 29,200.

Racehorse stated 5 days. 5 days out of 6,570 or .0676% of its 18 years.

I seriously doubt that would spoil the child.

Better yet maybe we should ask the experts.. Wonder what Dr. Oz would say.

 

[AndriaD]

There is actually strong precedent for NOT picking up an infant every time it cries. This is PROVEN to "spoil" the child, they learn to cry just for the attention quickly.
Of course you check it to make sure it's ok, but he is completely right, you don't cater to it 100%
You are trying to vilify his statement into ignoring an infant's actual needs...something he NEVER said.

Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping

One thing I learned, pretty quickly, is that you can actually tell from the sound of the crying what the child's problem is -- at first, of course, I was completely puzzled, and every cry warranted attention. But before he was even a month old, I had already "learned his language," whether he was tired, cranky, hungry, wet/poopy, or just wanted attention. All of those GOT attention, unless it was the crying immediately after putting him to bed -- sometimes kids just want to make their displeasure known, and that's the only way they have.

I can still decipher a baby's needs, from the sound of the crying -- in stores, my husband and I both can tell if a baby needs a nap, or a meal, or is just having a tantrum -- and we both are absolutely fed up with parents who completely ignore the ruckus their child is making, especially the ones old enough to walk around and cause a problem for other people, while the parent just blithely carries on doing whatever, completely ignoring the child. Ignoring a child is a great way to raise a person with zero self-esteem. Giving in to every demand is a great way to raise a child who's convinced that the world revolves around him. There has to be a happy medium. And it's really never too early to acquaint a child with the fact that nothing is immediate except a mother's love -- even microwaves take a few seconds to warm a bottle.

Andria