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Racehorse

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Oh, and the baby comes first, always? Only if you want to raise a kid who thinks the entire universe revolves around him or her.

Perhaps you missed the point.

We are talking about an INFANT.

Infants come first, require constant care, and no, "babying" an infant doesn't lead to a kid who thinks the entire universe revolves around them. :rolleyes:

WHEN your child is old enough to understand "wait a moment, dear", THEN maybe what you said makes any sense.

We are talking about a baby, an infant, here, Rossum! They aren't at any kind of developmental stage where they put thoughts like what you are suggesting together.

I take it that you dont have children, and/or aren't around infants/babies. Nobody who has an infant would say what you just said........when applied to an infant, its absolutely outlandish. sorry.
 

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My grandson has autism. When we are out and about with him, whether we are eating out or shopping, he is usually much better behaved than many of the "normally developing" children and teens that we see. Yes, we do make allowances for his "quirks" and the autism, but we have also worked with him since he was young (he is 18 now) on what is proper behavior outside the house. It takes time, work, and cooperation among a child's caregivers to balance discipline with making sure a child knows he/she is loved and valued. In some ways, I think that some parents "overcompensate" for time lost with their children due to both parents having to work outside the home, and the pressures of providing basic living for the family, by letting the kids "get away" with things that normally would not be tolerated. My daughter and I have been fortunate in many ways. After my husband died when my daughter was a baby, I had friends who helped me out by watching her when I was at work. When my daughter and my grandson's father decided to live apart, I was able to stay at home with my grandson. Many people today do not have the option of friends who share their values, or loving family members, to take care of their children while they work. There are also parents who just don't give a darn what their children do, as long as it does not inconvenience the parents. I feel sorry for the kids.
 

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If you clean and dry the multi blade disposables after use, they last much much longer.
I've had the same 20 blade pack of Gillette Fusion blades for about 2 years
and I don't even keep my razor in a pyramid..
Just gotta keep it clean and keep it from dropping and getting the blades nicked.
 
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getting the wifey to do that is the hard part.... I open the pack, she uses it, and I suffer the dull blade...

Man! That is totally unacceptable at my house.
My old lady uses those pink use once throw away razors,
I use my Gillette or Schick and even my boy who hasn't even started shaving yet has his own Gillette.

I understand your nick now, Bro.
If my old lady used my razor I'd off her bunny too.
note: She does have a female white rabbit named Wilhem
that wandered down the sidewalk one Easter Sunday.

I often talk about rabbit BBQ just to keep 'Gita (old lady) on her toes...

Regards,
Hazy:smokie:
 
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We are talking about a baby, an infant, here, Rossum! They aren't at any kind of developmental stage where they put thoughts like what you are suggesting together.

Pfffffft...

First animalistic instinct. Thought not needed. Though they're much smarter than you're giving them credit for.

Give a newborn more attention than it needs and within hours you've set the pace for weeks to come.

P.S. my kiddos get plenty of attention yet enjoy their freedoms as well...



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Am I the only one here just waiting for the OP to let us know that the baby is ok? In the early parts of my marriage(s) we had blow ups like this on occasion (sometimes her fault, sometimes mine) We were young and stupid with no inclination of what we had gotten ourselves into. I can't imagine pissing my wife off this much and then leaving the baby with her in this kind of rage. Not that either of my wives would have ever hurt the child, but this kind of rage leaves us vulnerable to decision making that is even worse than the ones that got us into the situation in the first place.
OP, please let us know that all is well, and good luck to both you and your wife. And baby.
 

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    My grandson has autism. When we are out and about with him, whether we are eating out or shopping, he is usually much better behaved than many of the "normally developing" children and teens that we see. Yes, we do make allowances for his "quirks" and the autism, but we have also worked with him since he was young (he is 18 now) on what is proper behavior outside the house. It takes time, work, and cooperation among a child's caregivers to balance discipline with making sure a child knows he/she is loved and valued. In some ways, I think that some parents "overcompensate" for time lost with their children due to both parents having to work outside the home, and the pressures of providing basic living for the family, by letting the kids "get away" with things that normally would not be tolerated. My daughter and I have been fortunate in many ways. After my husband died when my daughter was a baby, I had friends who helped me out by watching her when I was at work. When my daughter and my grandson's father decided to live apart, I was able to stay at home with my grandson. Many people today do not have the option of friends who share their values, or loving family members, to take care of their children while they work. There are also parents who just don't give a darn what their children do, as long as it does not inconvenience the parents. I feel sorry for the kids.

    I wish I would have never heard of the "autism spectrum" --- It has caused me a life of many problems ---- As a person who has been "blessed" to have been diagnosed with both Asperger's and ADD, I am all too familiar with autism difficulties. That's why I commented in an earlier post on this thread that life and people in general are far too complex to indict a person all because of one single event that the OP may have not acted too swift during. I would have not acted like the OP for sure, but I also do not know about all of the other complex variables that led to his character/actions.

    Yes, children should be placed before one's self, but one also has to be careful in this regard as well. Too many spoiled children who are narcissistic in society these days (thank you gvt for your wonderful laws) --- However, this thread deals with a most complex societal issue, especially for an ecigg forum --- Personally, the only thing of any value this thread has is that we can joke a bit about various things. None of us are going to help the OP or each other --- We all have different variations of experience in these regards as well as varying amounts of knowledge and maturity -- hence the OP's relationship is a moot point.

    But this thread is fun to joke inside of :w00t:
     

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    I take it that you dont have children, and/or aren't around infants/babies. Nobody who has an infant would say what you just said........when applied to an infant, its absolutely outlandish. sorry.
    Wrong. I have a daughter who's almost 18 and a son who's 23. I was also heavily involved in raising my half sister and half brother, who are 10 and 11 years younger than I am, because their father split while my mother was pregnant with my bother, and my mother was a basket case for a while as a result.

    I stand behind what I said. Even when they're infants, if you run and cater to their every whim the moment they start to fuss, they'll be ruined by the time they're old enough to understand, "Wait a moment, dear." Some of my employees did this and their kids are insufferable brats. In fact, I'll speculate the OP's wife's parents catered to her every whim when she was young, and now she expects her husband to do the same.
     

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    Lesson learned. Don't tell the wife to f-off.

    Priorities. Filing Kayfun or giving the baby a bath?

    I still remember my little girl. Wife just went back to work so we started sharing getting up and rocking the baby. I came home after hitting the bars with my friends after a softball game. My friend dropped me off about 1 am after a healthy consumption of hops and barley. About 2 am she started crying, my wife said your turn. My head is pounding, my baby is screaming. It took everything I had to rock her through that ahead piercing screaming. I sang softly and rocked for 2 hours until she fell asleep.

    That was the last night out with them again. My lesson was learned. Hops and barley or little baby girl. I chose little baby girl.
     

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    Wrong. I have a daughter who's almost 18 and a son who's 23. I was also heavily involved in raising my half sister and half brother, who are 10 and 11 years younger than I am, because their father split while my mother was pregnant with my bother, and my mother was a basket case for a while as a result.

    I stand behind what I said. Even when they're infants, if you run and cater to their every whim the moment they start to fuss, they'll be ruined by the time they're old enough to understand, "Wait a moment, dear." Some of my employees did this and their kids are insufferable brats. In fact, I'll speculate the OP's wife's parents catered to her every whim when she was young, and now she expects her husband to do the same.


    Just because one stands behind what they stated still doesn't make it right. You can stand and still be wrong.

    That's BS.
     

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    Just because one stands behind what they stated still doesn't make it right. You can stand and still be wrong.

    That's BS.
    Except I'm not wrong because none of the four I was involved in raising when they were young turned into bratty little beasts who thought everyone else existed to serve them, and now that they're older, they're all be organized enough to have the shampoo and towel ready instead of expecting someone else to get it for them.
     

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    Except I'm not wrong because none of the four I was involved in raising when they were young turned into bratty little beasts who thought everyone else existed to serve them, and now that they're older, they're all be organized enough to have the shampoo and towel ready instead of expecting someone else to get it for them.

    You have very valid and good points just as @bluecat does -- I also see many spoiled and narcissistic children, especially these days when the parents have to be parents with their hands tied behind their backs because of the commies (gvt) and their ridiculous laws. So, I totally understand what you are saying brother -- on the other hand, I also see what @bluecat and others are driving at ---- Family dynamics and societal values can be a somewhat complex subject with many controversies.
     

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    Lesson learned. Don't tell the wife to f-off.
    That part I do agree with, but then again, maybe the wife shouldn't make unreasonable demands to the point where the husband is frustrated enough to go there?

    Priorities. Filing Kayfun or giving the baby a bath?
    Communications. Who's giving the kid a bath today? The wife? The husband? Both of them together?
     

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    That could be looked at from the other side as well.....perhaps his morning vape fest is his only real time to himself, perhaps she KNOWS he takes one every morning. Perhaps, if she wanted help with the baby, she could have waited to start, but wanted to create a confrontation over something she feels jealous over since she isn't a part of, because husband's/wives aren't allowed to have anything to themselves.

    See what we can do with pure speculation?
    That's what your "break down" amounts to.

    Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping

    Completely agree. And I would also argue that since vaping is in order to prevent smoking, it ACTUALLY IS more important than something that has to be done daily but could be done on a schedule, by one person -- if she bothered to actually gather what was needed beforehand. Or, when he got the baby shampoo, a simple "is there anything else you need, before I go back to what I was doing?" would have saved a lot of harsh words and feelings. Men are sometimes psychO, but rarely ever psychIC, and if you don't ASK for what you want, you mostly don't get it, and you really can't blame the non-psychIC for not anticipating everything you might have asked for, if you'd bothered to consider it.

    After all that wanton destruction of his personal property, I'd applaud him for replacing it with more vape stuff, rather than cigarettes. And not choking her out for destroying very expensive stuff. And maybe for eventually going home, where his needs are clearly of no importance whatever to the wife.

    Babies should come first, yes... but that doesn't mean that parents have NO needs of their own. Maybe he's vaping instead of smoking so he can actually watch that child grow up.

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    Perhaps you missed the point.

    We are talking about an INFANT.

    Infants come first, require constant care, and no, "babying" an infant doesn't lead to a kid who thinks the entire universe revolves around them. :rolleyes:

    WHEN your child is old enough to understand "wait a moment, dear", THEN maybe what you said makes any sense.

    We are talking about a baby, an infant, here, Rossum! They aren't at any kind of developmental stage where they put thoughts like what you are suggesting together.

    I take it that you dont have children, and/or aren't around infants/babies. Nobody who has an infant would say what you just said........when applied to an infant, its absolutely outlandish. sorry.

    The mom was already dealing with the infant, and it does NOT require 2 people to bathe a baby -- if she had a brain in her head to PREPARE before the bath commences -- or a MOUTH, to request his help before the bath commences.

    As I mentioned, my husband helped in every possible way, when our son was born, but we worked it out ahead of time, who would be responsible for what -- and if he was busy doing something, no matter how inconsequential that "something" was to me, I didn't constantly interrupt him to have him help me do something I was already in the middle of. If I'd wanted his help, I'd have asked for it BEFORE I started. And, as I also noted, I didn't DEMAND things, unless I was just LOOKING for a fight.

    Andria
     

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    Men are sometimes psychO, but rarely ever psychIC, and if you don't ASK for what you want, you mostly don't get it, and you really can't blame the non-psychIC for not anticipating everything you might have asked for, if you'd bothered to consider it.

    Yes, I am triple psycho :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: -- also not psychic :confused:

    If us men were psychic then it would take all the fun and challenge away from you women -- If we catered to your every need and knew all your desires ahead of time then it would become a very boring world for Women to live in - hence the need for us Men to be stupid :w00t:
    Babies should come first, yes... but that doesn't mean that parents have NO needs of their own. Maybe he's vaping instead of smoking so he can actually watch that child grow up.

    well said my lady :)
     
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