OK. If I'm wrong, I'll take my public flogging and promise to do better.

[hrtim]

Hello again all.

Right upfront, my vaping experience is minimal. I started 9 days ago and have been analog free for 7.
It ain't been easy but I'm gonna put em down for good, thanks to vaping.

My son turned me on to an eGo-t and and a small bottle of USA, I think, and I really haven't had any real problems.

I didn't care for the juice so I went shopping, of course. I found a local guy, value vapor, (is that allowed?) and wanted to support a local biz.

He carries most of what I think I need and it comes overnight via the USPS.

Most of his juice is Dekang and I've tried several of the tobacco types with limited success.

If vaping Dekang is verboten, politically incorrect or whatever, I apologize. I'm a newb trying to climb this vaping learning curve.
The cigar is so so with not much TH. The ry2, to me, is pretty awful.

Id do like the 24mg Desert Ship. It has the most tobacco taste to me.

However, I only get that really satisfying TH ( like those damned analogs) if I wait about 5 minutes between draws.

That one is VERY satisfying.

I asked my vendor about this and he suggested I try a couple or LR attys. So, I bought 4. 2 Better Life 510 (1.5 ohm) and two DSE 510 LR also 1.5ohm.

I will admit that they give me more and quicker vapor but, that TH that I crave is still timed too far apart.

Is this normal for vaping and something I'll just have to live with? Or is there a beautifully elegant answer to what I seek?

I tried another Dekang flavor ( Pal Mal) and it's initially weaker in the TH and doesn't taste too good to me.

I WANT a BIG TH much more often than I'm getting it.

What to do, what to do?

BTW, thanks to everyone of you that participate, moderate, administrate, and make this wonderful community available.

I love it.

Thanks,

Tim

 

[BiancaMontgomery]

If you're not getting enough TH from 24mg liquids, you may need to up the voltage. Cheap way to test that out is a 2amp wall adapter and a skinny manual 510 passthrough. You'll be tethered to an outlet, but it's an inexpensive way to test the waters with higher voltage. You'll need a 3ohm atomizer or cartomizer as well. Best of luck finding what works best for you!

 

[elfstone]

From my limited experience, I would say if you need more throat hit, and you are already using 24 mg, you can really only go two ways: lower VG content, if your juice contains >= 50% VG you can try that; or more power - to do that, you should increase the voltage. Next step from your eGo is a true 3.7 V device such as Riva, KGO or ePower. If you want to skip this step you can go for 5V vaping using a 5V mod and / or a 5V passthru. Also, you can jump all steps and get a variable voltage mod and tweak until you find your own sweet spot.

 

[hulsey76]

However, I only get that really satisfying TH ( like those damned analogs) if I wait about 5 minutes between draws.

That one is VERY satisfying.

I WANT a BIG TH much more often than I'm getting it.

What to do, what to do?

I think the LR atty's are only going to go so far in giving you the TH you want. I experienced the same thing you are going through. While using LR atty's or cartomizers will certainly help becaue they have the potential to produce more vapor, the strength of the nicotine, PG/VG mixture, and flavor are going to mean a lot more.

PG tends to give more TH, while VG produces more vapor. If you want TH find a juice with a high PG ratio. Higher nic strength (I vape 36mg and LOVE it) will also enhance the TH. Finally, strong flavors (sour, minty, hot) are going to magnify the TH. I vape Ice Menthol for that very reason. Finding the right liquid is the key. And remember, e-cigs will never be or do what tobacco cigs are and do, so try not to look at it as an apples to apples comparison. Hope this helps. Good luck!

 

[echofinder]

Using a tank allows me to chainvape and retain TH.

Rumor is adding a little everclear or strong alcohol to the juice increases TH. There are also additives you can buy from many vendors which do the same thing.

 

[elfstone]

Oh, and I may have missed the boat entirely, too - if throat hit is insufficient and hit and miss with the atty-tank setup, please try cartomizers. Atty-tanks are a great vape for some, but many feel they don't feed the atomizer fast enough and lack throat hit.

 

[mattiem]

If you expect public flogging you have come to the wrong place but otoh if you want all the helping hands you can handle then you have come to the right place.

Welcome to ECF, home of some of the best folks you ever hope to meet. Ok, off my soapbox now, carry on.

 

[wv2win]

......... Next step from your eGo is a true 3.7 V device such as Riva, KGO or ePower. If you want to skip this step you can go for 5V vaping using a 5V mod and / or a 5V passthru. Also, you can jump all steps and get a variable voltage mod and tweak until you find your own sweet spot.

I would definitely skip the Riva, Kgo, E-power since you are only moving up to 3.7 volts but the recommendationn of a 5 volt model is a good one. Both of the models that I will recommend will give you much better throat hit than any 3.4v or 3.7v model.

Throat hit is 90% two things: nicotine strength and warmth of the vapor. The best way to get warmer vapor more consistently is to move up to a good 5 volt or variable watt model. On the nicotine strength, many people do vape 36mg strength which is where I started but have since moved down. If you do a search here on ECF for suppliers that provide 36mg strength liquid, you should find some. Two of the best models in the 5 volt and powered variable watt category are the 5 volt GLV2 and the power regulated, variable wattage Darwin. The GLV comes with a lifetime warranty and the Darwin comes with a full 2 year warranty. Both these warranty levels are very rare. The Darwin with standard resistence cartos/attys will give you a volt range of about 3.5 volts to 6.5 volts. And unlike many variable models, you can use dual coil cartos with it. It is the most consistent model on the market IMO due to it's regulated boost circuit technology.

5 volt GLV2: GLV-2 Electronic Cigarette [GLV-2] - $120.00 : Electronic Cigarettes and E-Liquid - Great Lakes Vapor

Power regulated, variable watt Darwin: Nhaler

Good Luck

Note: neither PG or VG provide throat hit. PG allows more throat hit to come through but it is the 10% range of helping with throat hit unlike the 90% that comes from nicotine strength and warmer vapor.

 

[DummyMe]

If you like Cinnamon flavor, you could try Tasty Vapor's Atomic Cinnicide. That has really good throat hit. I first tried it on a freshly charged EPower. Wow, that woke me up! It should be good on an eGo. Be careful with it....it cracks carto tanks, though.

 

[wv2win]

............Rumor is adding a little everclear or strong alcohol to the juice increases TH. There are also additives you can buy from many vendors which do the same thing.

Unfortunately it is a false rumor. They provide throat irritation not good, true throat hit.

 

[dearme]

They raised the amperage in the new Provari that just came out for the people who like dual coil. This was about the only change they made in it..........2.5 to 3.5

Amperage Limiting to 3.5 amps
The ProVari will monitor and shut itself off if it detects any excessive over-current conditions.
V2 - Version 2 now has a higher amperage limit of 3.5amp for low resistance atomizers and cartomizers.

 

[yo vapo]

If you like DK Desert Ship, you may just love DK-TAB. It may not have enough TH for you though, but you could add a little Black Fire flavoring (FlavorArt) and/or Dark Vapure. While you're at it maybe try some Perique Black, maybe some Latakia. These are all flavorings, not ready to vape eliquids mind you, and strong ones at that. Add sparingly to your premixed juice. These should kick ya in the head.

The link
http://www.ecigexpress.com/flavoring-flavourart-condensed-c-16_29

 

[wv2win]

Eliquid additives do NOT provide true throat hit (inhaled feel of smoking). They do provide burning, throat irritation.

 

[elfstone]

+1 for that. PG is already an irritant, there's something to be said about smooth throat hit versus harsh throat hit.

 

[Strigoi]

I didn't read many of the replies, but if you're looking for TH try some mint chocolate chip liquid or Atomic Cinnacide from Tasty Vapor.

I've got MCC from Tasty Vapor and one other site that got blacklisted and both of them have a lot of TH. AC from TV is just an awesome flavor if you like cinnamon (think Atomic Fireballs). Those two are my go to when I want something that has some kick.

I've got a large bottle of MCC in the fridge (from that site, no worries though) so if you want a small bottle of it to try out I'd be happy to send you one. PM me if you're interested (this offer is for hrtim only!).

 

[Patrick21]

If your not getting th from 24mg either up your voltage or change your ecig, or try 36mg which in all honesty i wouldnt advise for health reasons

 

[sweetz]

The only thing I haven't seen addressed here is the inhalation method...most times I wouldn't bring it up, but it can be the one thing that changes flavor and throat hit when nothing else does. I hope I don't insult you with these instructions, but I know for the first week I was trying to use my ecig like an analog, and it simply doesn't work with the sharp inhale you might be used to.

Try pushing your button for one second, without drawing in. Then only draw the vape into your mouth, for up to five seconds. When your mouth is full, then inhale it all, slowly. Not only is this a much tastier vape, your mouth is actually what absorbs the nicotine with vaping, not your lungs. So with this method you should be both tasting more, and getting more throat hit and nicotine delivery.

And even if this isn't the trick needed, welcome to ECF and happy vaping!

 

[wv2win]

If your not getting th from 24mg either up your voltage or change your ecig, or try 36mg which in all honesty i wouldnt advise for health reasons

There are thousands of people who vape 36mg eliquid with no problems at all. This is just scare talk. Considering we all are mostly long time ex-smokers, if that is what it takes to stay away from smoking, it's a good thing.

 

[elfstone]

That said, while it's probably safe to say it's safe to vape 36 mg if you don't get your nic fix otherwise, it is probably a debatable proposition to do so just for the sake of throat hit. There's no solid evidence as to how much nicotine one actually absorbs from vapor. There is no solid, irrefutable medical evidence that nicotine use has severe ill effects - there's actually a straining effort out there to find something clearly bad about it and that says a lot. I'm not aware of a plethora of nicotine intoxication reports from vaping. However, increasing one's dosage of a physiologically active substance for the sake of a tactile sensation is probably wrong. Smokers seem to have a way to self regulate the dosage of nicotine based on its effects, and I wouldn't mess with that self metering. Just opinion, really.

 

[wv2win]

That said, while it's probably safe to say it's safe to vape 36 mg if you don't get your nic fix otherwise, it is probably a debatable proposition to do so just for the sake of throat hit

Since 36mg is just 3.6% nic by volume, unless someone has a heart condition, from what I have read, if it turns out to be too high, your body will let you know in a way that is not health adverse. There have actually been some who have posted on here that they vape 48mg strength. They must make it themselves, I'm guessing.