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Ok so i deccomissioned an old carto (well not really too old) this is what i found inside.
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Zuzette is correct on the water thinning process, but use only distilled water. Tap water, spring, filtered, ect. will have minerals and other things great for drinking, but not for vaping. Your lungs and intestines feel quite differently about some of waters benifits.
Watch out for the new STV Novas (a.k.a. Neptunes). At first glance it looks like a metal nova tube with a window to see the juice level, but the interior is the same as the regular tanks. Doink. Why they didn't make it out of polypro seems counter-intuitive.
Yeah i have a metal tank for my VIVI in my shopping cart but im really interested in carto tanks.. i think thats gonna be my ultimate vape
i guess the real question now is, What are the best cartos to buy for both flavor and vapor, i dont mind throat hit very much its isnt too big of a deal for me
You're venturing into Personal Preference land. I have a Boge in one tank and a Smoktech in the others. I can tell they're different, but the tanks are different too - I wouldn't know how to compare them.
yeah personal preference land can be a tough place to be but how about dual coil vs single coil and the filler material difference?, i know Pbusardo has a great review on the boge vs smoktech
I can't help you there. I read that dual coils go through juice and battery power faster, so I've always used single coil, but some people swear by them. I'm sure PBusardo has a video about it somewhere, but it didn't show up in a search; however, this guy did: Dual Coil Vs. Single Coil Cartomizers - YouTube
I have a big daddy tank and a Smok Tech UDCT locking tank. I use XL low resistance dual coil Smok Teck (3 hole) cartos on both. 1.5 ohm on 3.7 mods. It kicks tons of flavor and vapor. I like 1.7 oHm single coil too, but tend to stick with the 1.5 dual coils. I feel like I get more vapor. But I never have wicking problems. I mix 50/50 vp/pg. Ivd tried lots of different setups including the Vivi Nova, and always come back to the trusty carto and tank setup. Vivi Nova was weak to me.
I get my cartos from hoosierecig. Prices, service, and shipping are awesome. Im really digging the UDCT tank. One of the best looking no-leak tanks for the money
I get my cartos from hoosierecig. Prices, service, and shipping are awesome. Im really digging the UDCT tank. One of the best looking no-leak tanks for the money
It puts the e-liquid on the carto..... that is the best thing for them. I am really nervous about switching to a tank. Is that a fairly easy switch if you're used to cartomizers?
I get tired of the excuses given for these Boge cartos that don't work. I photographed mine a few days ago and posted, the entire batting was thoroughly well-soaked, and topped off constantly..........It was obvious when I took it apart. I unrolled the entire batting and it was generously soaked with juice.
Yet, I was getting burnt dry hits every 4th draw.
Funny, I can put a shorty carto, or a silo carto into my vmod bottom feeder and have absolutely no problems and I'm vaping 100% VG that has not even been "optimized" by thinning with DW. I'm vaping boba's bounty in an older short wicked clearo right now just fine.
Sorry, but I still think it is the boge cartos.
the problem seemed to occur at the bottom where the negative connection is at the bottom of the carto. (Not at the center post). Almost like the batting was too low in the carto or something ---- when I took it apart it was very jagged at the bottom of the sheet of batting. That would be a factory problem, ie. the way the carto was made. Like it wasn't in there straight.
you know, somebody mentioned trying the cartos from Smokeless Image. The way they are constructed is very different than other cartos. It would be interesting to try one, I'm going to.
Where do you get the cartos that fit into these new UDCT tanks?
also, that locking ring on the bottom, if using on an ego they have a special thread cover for the Ego which requires that you take the lock ring off........do you see any problem with that?
What is better about them than the old DCT tanks.......which I hated, could never get the end caps on and off........besides the fact that they are polyeth instead of polycarb? Do the caps come on and off or not?
I guess I don't udnerstand this tank too well yet........never saw on. How do you fill it?
I use smoketek XL cartos.
A couple months ago I ran out of PG and had to make my juice out of pure VG. I added a little water to bring the viscosity down. Beyond the flavor change and increased vapor production, the only big change was that it took longer to load a fresh carto.
Pure VG just doesn't wick very well.
As others have said, I'm not a big fan of the boge short cartos. You get what you pay for.
If you are looking for tank cartos with a lot of holes:
Crystal Clear Vaping
punch as many holes as you want.
A couple months ago I ran out of PG and had to make my juice out of pure VG. I added a little water to bring the viscosity down. Beyond the flavor change and increased vapor production, the only big change was that it took longer to load a fresh carto.
Pure VG just doesn't wick very well.
As others have said, I'm not a big fan of the boge short cartos. You get what you pay for.
If you are looking for tank cartos with a lot of holes:
Crystal Clear Vaping
punch as many holes as you want.
One factor missing from these post is the voltage Eventus was using on the 3.0 ohm carto. It matters.
I use cartos alone, with no tank. I also use a very high concentration VG juice and run 3.7 V. It's 98% VG thinned with a few drops of distilled water (2% H2O). This juice is thick. Sometimes it will just bead up and sit on top of the filler of a brand new carto. When that happens I do the first filling with a hypo. Once the carto has been saturated the first time filling the carto again is easy and fast. The thick juice will sink right into the carto filler.
Once you burn a carto they will never taste right again. Just toss it. Cartos burn when they are run too dry.
How dry do you run a carto before it burns? Depends on the voltage used and the resistance of the carto. I use Smoktech single coil LR XL cartos at 3.7 V. These hold at least 1.8 ml of juice. I never vape a 2.0 ohm carto to 50% fluid capacity. That means I never add more than 25 drops of liquid with a refill. The 1.7 ohm cartos are even easier to burn. I never vape those down past 2/3 capacity. These cartos run hot so a safe refill is 15 to 18 drops of liquid.
I get a week or about 15 ml out my cartos before changing them out.
Using a tank on a carto extends the life of the carto by keeping the filler saturated all of the time.
I use cartos alone, with no tank. I also use a very high concentration VG juice and run 3.7 V. It's 98% VG thinned with a few drops of distilled water (2% H2O). This juice is thick. Sometimes it will just bead up and sit on top of the filler of a brand new carto. When that happens I do the first filling with a hypo. Once the carto has been saturated the first time filling the carto again is easy and fast. The thick juice will sink right into the carto filler.
Once you burn a carto they will never taste right again. Just toss it. Cartos burn when they are run too dry.
How dry do you run a carto before it burns? Depends on the voltage used and the resistance of the carto. I use Smoktech single coil LR XL cartos at 3.7 V. These hold at least 1.8 ml of juice. I never vape a 2.0 ohm carto to 50% fluid capacity. That means I never add more than 25 drops of liquid with a refill. The 1.7 ohm cartos are even easier to burn. I never vape those down past 2/3 capacity. These cartos run hot so a safe refill is 15 to 18 drops of liquid.
I get a week or about 15 ml out my cartos before changing them out.
Using a tank on a carto extends the life of the carto by keeping the filler saturated all of the time.
A couple questions. Why dont you use a tank? And why no PG at all? I think a couple tweaks and your woes are gone.
I'm very happy with my set-up. I've been cigarette-free for seven months now.
-I don't use a tank because I put a premium on having a portable, pocket-sized APV. I either carry around a couple of spare capped cartos or a 10 ml drip bottle for refills. I only vape slightly more than 2 ml per day (20 mg juice).
-I don't like to inhale PG. VG is much smoother. Besides, I highly suspect I'm allergic to PG.
-After trying a high quality unflavored DIY juice, I discovered that I prefer it to flavored juice.
-I don't use a tank because I put a premium on having a portable, pocket-sized APV. I either carry around a couple of spare capped cartos or a 10 ml drip bottle for refills. I only vape slightly more than 2 ml per day (20 mg juice).
-I don't like to inhale PG. VG is much smoother. Besides, I highly suspect I'm allergic to PG.
-After trying a high quality unflavored DIY juice, I discovered that I prefer it to flavored juice.
Hi Eventus. Sorry you have had a rough time. After reading the posts here I can chime in with some tidbits that may help. I vape almost exclusively either Boge 3Ω cartos Or Vivi Nova 2.8Ω on a thinned(diy) 100%VG at 5.4v..... You either suffered from poor wicking(most likely) or a bum carto. When I burn cartos(I do but not often) I immediately stop using them, cut them right off at the base and examine why they have burned. Out of some 20+ cartos over the last year and a half I have only deduced four times that the filler (where it was burned) was wet.... leading me to the bum carto suspicion. All the others where not wet near the coil... leading me to too much chain vaping or too thick liquid or plain dry carto. Any carto no matter whose name is on it will burn if its too dry near the coil.
There is nearly no reason at 4.8v with a 3Ω carto that you should be burning cartos other than poor wicking or a bum carto. If you drip fill these or do the carto condom fill (from empty) then you probably didn't disturb the coil causing it to push against the filller. But if you syringe filled the carto(from empty) you could have bunched the filler up on the side of the carto causing a dense mass in one spot....leading to poor wicking and therefore a burned spot where it was bunched up.
Also important to note here is the liquid. If you have high VG liquid you will want to look for an option to thin it down for use in cartos. I have been making my own liquids for now well over a year. I prefer the flavor/vapor/hit of 100%VG mixes. I do thin my own mixes 9% with distilled water. This allows the liquid to be used in any device I would like to use it in. If you can talk to your Mixer, I would suggest you ask to have your liquid thinned for use in carto tanks. This will allow you the peace of mind to be able to have a properly wetted carto and be less likely to burn up any more cartos. The way your liquid is now(if its reallly thick) will likely cause you much grief if you try to use it in a carto tank. The carto tanks do require a little fiddling to get working well, but you will be fighting an uphill battle if you have a really thick liquid. If you want a carto that would be harder to burn I have found that the Kanger Horizontal coil(used by smokeless image,I think) Is harder to burn than pretty much everything else, I was on a power binge last year and ran a few boxes of their 3Ω h-coil cartos at 6.5v for a few months when I decided to drastically lower my nicotine. They worked well but old habits die hard and I eventually switched back to the Boges after I was comfortable with my new nic level. They where my first brand of carto after the whole "t" craze, which was better than the carts with the blue foam mod but still the tanks where pretty awful... I you have any questions feel free to ask or even PM me. Good Luck. Happy Vaping.
There is nearly no reason at 4.8v with a 3Ω carto that you should be burning cartos other than poor wicking or a bum carto. If you drip fill these or do the carto condom fill (from empty) then you probably didn't disturb the coil causing it to push against the filller. But if you syringe filled the carto(from empty) you could have bunched the filler up on the side of the carto causing a dense mass in one spot....leading to poor wicking and therefore a burned spot where it was bunched up.
Also important to note here is the liquid. If you have high VG liquid you will want to look for an option to thin it down for use in cartos. I have been making my own liquids for now well over a year. I prefer the flavor/vapor/hit of 100%VG mixes. I do thin my own mixes 9% with distilled water. This allows the liquid to be used in any device I would like to use it in. If you can talk to your Mixer, I would suggest you ask to have your liquid thinned for use in carto tanks. This will allow you the peace of mind to be able to have a properly wetted carto and be less likely to burn up any more cartos. The way your liquid is now(if its reallly thick) will likely cause you much grief if you try to use it in a carto tank. The carto tanks do require a little fiddling to get working well, but you will be fighting an uphill battle if you have a really thick liquid. If you want a carto that would be harder to burn I have found that the Kanger Horizontal coil(used by smokeless image,I think) Is harder to burn than pretty much everything else, I was on a power binge last year and ran a few boxes of their 3Ω h-coil cartos at 6.5v for a few months when I decided to drastically lower my nicotine. They worked well but old habits die hard and I eventually switched back to the Boges after I was comfortable with my new nic level. They where my first brand of carto after the whole "t" craze, which was better than the carts with the blue foam mod but still the tanks where pretty awful... I you have any questions feel free to ask or even PM me. Good Luck. Happy Vaping.
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