Ok so my first run in with the local vapor shop.

[patkin]

This thread is great!!! I get a real kick out of reading it!!! When I read it I get the sense that neither side has a true conviction but rather this is just some friendly banter. Like a bunch of guys competing over who has the best stereo system in there car. Or the nerds taking about how much ram they have or how big there hard drive is!!!

We're all vapors here. We all love a good vape. Some love making it an art and building their own coils while others don't want the hassle. Some want more power while others are happy with an ego. No problem since we all love our vape!!! So the question I have is....Watcha Vapin? I'm happy for the Provari owners that love their new shiny!!! Is it for me....no. I love my epipes. Does that mean they shouldn't love it...no.

What I find problematic is that the OP thought the clerk should have loved it. I have to agree with the poster that said the clerk probably knew full well what a mod is. Maybe the clerk was new and still in training. That sounds reasonable to me since there were 2 clerks and the second clerk knew so much more.

Point is we should all cut each other a little slack. To me, there are 2 types of people. Those who vape and those don't. There are too many ANTZ out there for us to bicker with each other. So, watcha vaping?

I soooo agree Doughboy! I vape 3.3 regulated, 3.7 regulated and, on occasion 4.8 regulated. It really doesn't matter to me, other than form-factor, weight, button pressure and protections, what battery or brand I'm using. It could be a mini USB, various passthroughs, a Joye Ego C, a Spnner or an Eroll. My mechanicals and semi-mechanicals sit in my backup drawer. They're praised here but just not for me. For the most part, they're either much too heavy or unregulated or go up to voltages/wattages I just never use. My juices don't taste good higher than I vape. I use varying ohms and toppers and I'm happy. Vaping is not a psn contest for me. If it ever becomes one, I'll probably stop it because the joy will either be gone or replaced with one that hasn't fit me in any other area of my life. I wouldn't like what I saw in the mirror... no way to live.

 

[Glen Snyder]

There is so much stuff out that I suppose it's difficult for an employee to be familiar with it all....for a bigger store with a handful of employees, maybe each could specialize....my local is pretty much restricted to eGo types, Smoktech, and Innokin. Have to go to Wichita for more sophisticated stuff. I'd rather buy online most of the time though.

I understand what you're saying, but... Being a bit of an audiophile I generally will only buy from the salesperson that knows the industry, not just the lines that particular retailer carries. Knowing ones competitors strengths and weaknesses compared to their own is an invaluable asset in my eyes.

Maybe it IS too much to ask of vape B & M employees to have a better than average handle on the industry at all times. I think this will ferret itself out in the future and B & M owners will demand more of themselves and their employees for the sake of the business if not for personal pride in their vocation alone. One can only hope


ETA: Speaking as an experienced retailer perhaps my personal standards/expectations are high. IMHO there are 'sales people' then there are cashiers. Anyone can be a cashier

 

[Whatnametouse]

Going to this specifically:

I'm not going to justify my attitude or anything else, but this was the point in what I was trying to make. Got it, it holds batteries, therefore "Battery holder".

The reason it made me a little curious and kind of chipped at me was just due to the fact that she works in a shop and has never seen a mod with a digital display before? Yet they sell the Innokin iTaste MVP series. Odd isn't it? Overall, the point I was making was you don't work for a business and not know what you're selling, or be somewhat of the 'subject matter expert' (SME) of the other items that may walk into your store. That would be like me trying to sell and repair TV's and not know a damn thing about the brand, manufacturing process, parts, accessories, etc of every possible brand of television that walked through my door. Not to mention you had to be there to hear HOW it was said as well. I think that's why the other salespeople that were in there were kind of thrown back and she was quickly moved off the sales floor. Again, am I justifying my blunt and straightforward response? No, I'm clarifying what my post was intended to be about. Knowledge of your products and various other products out and about. Again, other than that, pretty good store to stop into. The rest of the folks there have a pretty vast knowledge of their equipment both in and out of the store. They were also pretty helpful as well. And yes, I did ask them a lot of questions, they did answer them in a professional manner, and if they didn't know they said "We really don't know". Which to me is an acceptable answer. Would I have did the same thing with any other device? Absolutely.

Now back to my hole... ah but before I go - needed to mention - my wife wanted to see what all the craze was about, why I've been spending copious amounts of time in my "den" and what I've been brewing up. She's smoked back in her teen years and just didn't like it, she's smoked hookahs with me in the past and loved it, although it gave her a headache from time to time. So she wanted to taste some of that "flavored air", which is what she calls it, and I was cool with that. Now she's content and she's having a blast. I told her I would eventually get her an RBA / RDA so she could build her own stuff, even show her how to do it. Or direct her in the right direction to get it done. She wrapped her first coil, made her first atomizer setup, and told me it was frustrating at first but she had fun doing it. And she'd gladly do it again.

I must bow my head...apparently the MVP, SVD & VTR I do own do not measure up to your standards, I apologize.

 

[minimalsaint]

I understand what you're saying, but... Being a bit of an audiophile I generally will only buy from the salesperson that knows the industry, not just the lines that particular retailer carries. Knowing ones competitors strengths and weaknesses compared to their own is an invaluable asset in my eyes.

Maybe it IS too much to ask of vape B & M employees to have a better than average handle on the industry at all times. I think this will ferret itself out in the future and B & M owners will demand more of themselves and their employees for the sake of the business if not for personal pride in their vocation alone. One can only hope


ETA: Speaking as an experienced retailer perhaps my personal standards/expectations are high. IMHO there are 'sales people' then there are cashiers. Anyone can be a cashier

Have you ever seen how many buttons are on a cash register? Eeeesh button overload.

I agree with your statement wholeheartedly, but I don't think it was really established that the salesperson was inept in her profession. Her nomenclature may have been off by an educated vaper's viewpoint, but maybe she has helped 50 or 100 or 500 people to quit cigarettes? What if she could sell an eGo like nobody's business and her true forte was their line of liquids? Should she be so easily dismissed because she didn't shout "PROVARI! WHOOP! WHOOP!"?
I think it's easy to forget that we are the minority of vapers overall with our fancy tubes and boxes. There are folks who just don't have the exposure and / or just don't care. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Lucky1384]

Now I feel like a fat bald guy driving my fancy chrome Provari with a dumb piece of arm candy sat next to me. Someone has to start ruining the image of desirable things I suppose

 

[minimalsaint]

Now I feel like a fat bald guy driving my fancy chrome Provari with a dumb piece of arm candy sat next to me. Someone has to start ruining the image of desirable things I suppose

You should probably start using it as a meat tenderizer or hammer some nails with it. There's no coming back now.

 

[cheryl713]

I started with V2, and it just wasn't enough vapor. I went to a CE4 clearomizer, but the wicks (to me) were a pain in the wazoo. I then tried an Evod, which was wonderful, but battery didn't last long enough. Now using an MVP2, with my Evod clearomizer and I'm as happy as a pig in the mud! Doesn't make me any smarter than satisfied V2 users, or any more sophisticated than content CE4 users. Happy with the convenience of buying coils as I need them, and letting someone else mix my juice. As was already stated, this journey began with me wanting to quit smoking. Now that I've done that, all the rest is just icing! Find what works and use it, or keep searching for what makes you happy, just don't forget that most of us stumbled in, confused and alone, and kept looking til we found our bliss. Now I'm gonna go sit my happy self down and vape.

 

[Recycled Roadkill]

You should probably start using it as a meat tenderizer or hammer some nails with it. There's no coming back now.

My innokin VTR is much better suited to be used like that!

 

[Bubba]

OK this was a fun read. I see stuff like this a lot, the arrogant tones of some owners. What I still can't comprehend is where anyone would come off with an arrogant attitude about a $200 device. Folks, it's $200. Not 200k. Realistically, any grown up who wanted one can/would get one.

Stop a second and think: What other $200 thing do you own that you think sets you apart? Makes you special or superior in some way? My phone was more than that. I've had bigger bar tabs than that. Hell, I've "made it rain" more than that.

Maybe a little perspective is in order here. At the end of the day, it's 2 hondo. Thats it. Hardly an AmEx Black card now, is it?

 

[Glen Snyder]

Have you ever seen how many buttons are on a cash register? Eeeesh button overload.

I agree with your statement wholeheartedly, but I don't think it was really established that the salesperson was inept in her profession. Her nomenclature may have been off by an educated vaper's viewpoint, but maybe she has helped 50 or 100 or 500 people to quit cigarettes? What if she could sell an eGo like nobody's business and her true forte was their line of liquids? Should she be so easily dismissed because she didn't shout "PROVARI! WHOOP! WHOOP!"?
I think it's easy to forget that we are the minority of vapers overall with our fancy tubes and boxes. There are folks who just don't have the exposure and / or just don't care. Nothing wrong with that.

I'm sure the Provarinatti would appreciate that. Why is there no Provari emoticon on this forum? Are we living in the middle ages?

 

[Lucky1384]

OK this was a fun read. I see stuff like this a lot, the arrogant tones of some owners. What I still can't comprehend is where anyone would come off with an arrogant attitude about a $200 device. Folks, it's $200. Not 200k. Realistically, any grown up who wanted one can/would get one.

Stop a second and think: What other $200 thing do you own that you think sets you apart? Makes you special or superior in some way? My phone was more than that. I've had bigger bar tabs than that. Hell, I've "made it rain" more than that.

Maybe a little perspective is in order here. At the end of the day, it's 2 hondo. Thats it. Hardly an AmEx Black card now, is it?

Exactly! My phone cost nearly 3 times what my Provari did and 1 in 3 men women and kids seem to have the same one.

 

[KurrptSenate]

I've switched off my provari, sold my mini, and just roll with mech mods nowadays, but I like warmer vapes at higher wattage settings than the provari will allow.

I still recommend them, but that's after qualifying someone, or the way in which you figure out what the person's desired setup is like, and see if a provari would be a good purchase for that person.

the provari is very nice, but it doesn't make you any more or less of a person if you own or don't own one.

the lady in the story clearly doesn't know much outside of her comfort zone. she was most likely approaching any customer as she was taught to do so.

 

[LEDBETTER122]

Oh my bad,Is that a Provari big boy? Hmmmmm.....Let me try it.....Yup it hits just like my Ego-Twist at the same voltage, then I threw it away becuase VV just don't cut it *Hands device back and Walks Away*

 

[highrider]

Arrogantly played. Did your ProVari swell with pride when you made everyone in the shop feel stupid? How was that any better than how the woman behind the counter acted? You showed off your expensive toys and master coil building abilities. Way to go.

My thoughts exactly. It's great to have a cool mod and all, but why lord it over people? I try never to be dat dude.

 

[Glen Snyder]

Oh my bad,Is that a Provari big boy? Hmmmmm.....Let me try it.....Yup it hits just like my Ego-Twist at the same voltage, then I threw it away becuase VV just don't cut it *Hands device back and Walks Away*

Oh man, you've done it now. I predict 32 more pages before the mods close the thread lmao

 

[Recycled Roadkill]

Stop a second and think: What other $200 thing do you own that you think sets you apart? Makes you special or superior in some way? My phone was more than that. I've had bigger bar tabs than that. Hell, I've "made it rain" more than that.

I've spent spent $500.00 at a time stocking up on Marlboro's bought in Oklahoma.

I coulda been a cigarette snob!

 

[Steamix]

I think some guy named Freud had some musings about this envy - thingie .... somethin' that started with 'p', not sure if provari's were on the market at his time though...but the symptoms appear unchanged ... (ducking - running)...

 

[Glen Snyder]

I think some guy named Freud had some musings about this envy - thingie .... somethin' that started with 'p', not sure if provari's were on the market at his time though...but the symptoms appear unchanged ... (ducking - running)...

It's On - Video Clips - South Park Studios

 

[Pinggolfer]

Is owning and showing off a Provari make you god's gift to the world? If you want to show it off do so by vaping it in your Ferrari.

 

[patkin]

Oh my bad,Is that a Provari big boy? Hmmmmm.....Let me try it.....Yup it hits just like my Ego-Twist at the same voltage, then I threw it away becuase VV just don't cut it *Hands device back and Walks Away*