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. in any case that white gunk dont belong in there.
What is good or bad may be subjective sometimes.
I believe if the OP states by a straight comparison that one of his attys is not on par to the other, it may be bad regardless if it works dripping (giving he has tested/use both the same and having the experience he mentioned with such devices).
My first 2 attys were phenomenal, both worked great, tons of vapor and flavor. Being the first ones, I abused them and learned with them. My following ones, were ok both worked but were not close to the originals I received with my kit. I settle for those thinking it may be the batch/vendor/experience. When I tried another one, it was like my first pair. Lesson learned, some attys are not good. Not defective, not bad quality (perhaps), not malfunction but simply bad. Simply put, not on par with other attys.
None of my Joye or SLB attys look like the second picture posted, but I understand looks can be deceiving. In the other hand, if a cart doesnt work for me, I would catalog the atty as bad since all atomizers should work with carts (regardless being best to drip) since sometimes dripping is impossible (driving being one example).
If OP tested and tried everything to make it work with carts and it doesnt deliver the goods, then I stand with him believing it is a bad atty. Replace it or keeping for dripping only. You can never have enough attys, and mostly if bans get into effect.
PD. Im a guy. Yeah, my avatar is a strawberry, but it is because of the picture, it a difficult picture and was my first difficult shot, so I use it as my avatar almost every forum I use (mostly photography).
I believe if the OP states by a straight comparison that one of his attys is not on par to the other, it may be bad regardless if it works dripping (giving he has tested/use both the same and having the experience he mentioned with such devices).
My first 2 attys were phenomenal, both worked great, tons of vapor and flavor. Being the first ones, I abused them and learned with them. My following ones, were ok both worked but were not close to the originals I received with my kit. I settle for those thinking it may be the batch/vendor/experience. When I tried another one, it was like my first pair. Lesson learned, some attys are not good. Not defective, not bad quality (perhaps), not malfunction but simply bad. Simply put, not on par with other attys.
None of my Joye or SLB attys look like the second picture posted, but I understand looks can be deceiving. In the other hand, if a cart doesnt work for me, I would catalog the atty as bad since all atomizers should work with carts (regardless being best to drip) since sometimes dripping is impossible (driving being one example).
If OP tested and tried everything to make it work with carts and it doesnt deliver the goods, then I stand with him believing it is a bad atty. Replace it or keeping for dripping only. You can never have enough attys, and mostly if bans get into effect.
PD. Im a guy. Yeah, my avatar is a strawberry, but it is because of the picture, it a difficult picture and was my first difficult shot, so I use it as my avatar almost every forum I use (mostly photography).
Haha thanks for the response. I'm into photography as well. I hve had two other models before the joye 510 and have not seen an atomizer that looks like the "bad" one. I guess time will tell, and comparison to future batches I purchase. Thanks for posting your gender as well lol I was curious. I'm male too, I'm commonly mistaken for a girl though. (for obvious reasons)
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OK.. I see what you are saying... and you are right bad is subjective to a point.... and what ever that point is that is thought of as bad... one would want to know if that atty can get back to the point where it is thought of as good (for that person)
if you can not recover an atty back to a point that you determined good.. then you can decide what you want to do with that atty.
One fact is Dripping is a great determining factor.. AND testing resistance is another.... If you haven't looked around this forum carts have ALWAYS been an issue . trying to be solved....
You will have issues with a cart way before you will with an atty (for the most part) Carts are notorious to have wicking issues to the atty... that is why there is a whole sub-forum on modding these carts anywhere from teabags to blue foam... so if you don't want to repack a cart.. by all means toss the CART if you are experiencing "bad" vape production
So if you count an atty as bad based off of a cart... then please save your atties and give them to me... I know dripping isn't for everyone, but the point is don't count an atty being dead based on the performance it has with a cart.
There might also be some misunderstandings between posts.. so if I am stating the obvious or missed a point... I apologize.. and if I am not explaining myself correctly I apologize for that as well... But the great thing about this forum the information is here to be found... and education is the key
I think there is infact a misunderstanding here BUT you have provided great information regardless. I will give my atty some more time and a better chance. Although the main misunderstandig here would be that I am not having cart problems (yet). I am treating both attys the same and getting very poor and inconsistent results with the "bad" one, and amazing results with the "good" one. But all of that aside, I'm going to have o purchase new atomizers sooner or later anyways, so hopefully in the process I'll learn as I go and apply all of the great advice and information from ECF to my experience. Thank you to everyone who has posted their thoughts/opinions/facts. And again I apologize for any strange typos my phone may have made
Duck, you are right, but I feel your comments are way more experienced than should be for new users.
Right, carts are normally the weakest link in PV’s but they work and serve a “mediocre” (if you like) purpose. I tried many carts mods and fillers (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/85886-carts-filler-materials-tests.html) and found what worked for me the “best” I could get from carts. I settle with that level since it gives me the sweet spot between functionality/effort/cost and I’l willing to live with it until find something better.
I cannot suggest all that should be done to correct and deeply review an atty in a single post; there’s a lot of information around; so I stressed the issue that OP should have test, research and have the said experience.
I just didn’t want the OP to get rid of the atty, or give up vaping for some troubles or misunderstandings around. I know many people get discouraged for some stuff that is easily solved.
One colleague didn’t even try vaping because he sees me carrying two devices and different bottles of juice. I explained him MY experience and what I like doing but showed him that he could carry just a PCC and cartomizers…. He gave up before even trying.
Just for the sake of information to the OP and any other person just researching info (just as I and many others find this forum) I wanted to spoke more generally for the benefit of more research and more solutions.
Xanax, yes, you need more attys to compare. We are just starting here; we need way more experience and testing. Once you get new attys and use more this “bad” one you may even try some other stuff as removing the offending stuff, using it as only dripping… or, another idea I’ve been doing… my “bad” atty which doesn’t give much vapor/flavor… I use it with atomic cinnacide. I find the flavor of that liquid extremely strong so that specific atty is amazing with it.
There are many routes, it is matter or trying them and documenting them for the benefit of the community.
Right, carts are normally the weakest link in PV’s but they work and serve a “mediocre” (if you like) purpose. I tried many carts mods and fillers (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/85886-carts-filler-materials-tests.html) and found what worked for me the “best” I could get from carts. I settle with that level since it gives me the sweet spot between functionality/effort/cost and I’l willing to live with it until find something better.
I cannot suggest all that should be done to correct and deeply review an atty in a single post; there’s a lot of information around; so I stressed the issue that OP should have test, research and have the said experience.
I just didn’t want the OP to get rid of the atty, or give up vaping for some troubles or misunderstandings around. I know many people get discouraged for some stuff that is easily solved.
One colleague didn’t even try vaping because he sees me carrying two devices and different bottles of juice. I explained him MY experience and what I like doing but showed him that he could carry just a PCC and cartomizers…. He gave up before even trying.
Just for the sake of information to the OP and any other person just researching info (just as I and many others find this forum) I wanted to spoke more generally for the benefit of more research and more solutions.
Xanax, yes, you need more attys to compare. We are just starting here; we need way more experience and testing. Once you get new attys and use more this “bad” one you may even try some other stuff as removing the offending stuff, using it as only dripping… or, another idea I’ve been doing… my “bad” atty which doesn’t give much vapor/flavor… I use it with atomic cinnacide. I find the flavor of that liquid extremely strong so that specific atty is amazing with it.
There are many routes, it is matter or trying them and documenting them for the benefit of the community.
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