OMG Wilton Glycerin is the Shizit!

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abandonhope16

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I could not find anything in my area that was labeled 100% VG, I had saw this about the Wiltons and found it, Figured if it was safe to use in icing for cakes it could not be all that bad. I am going to try some health food stores this weekend for some VG.

The VitaminShoppe is a chain and should carry VG. I've been using Glycerin with no problems so far
 

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You see so many metions about Wilton Glycerin on this board, hey I've even got a bottle sitting with my supplies. I wonder if there's some marketing expert shaking his head wondering why sales are 800% greater than this time last year?

Let's hope somebody's getting a pay raise out of this! Hey, Wilton may be the next "big tabacco" company!

Thats so funny, I was wondering the same thing...
 

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I could not find anything in my area that was labeled 100% VG, I had saw this about the Wiltons and found it, Figured if it was safe to use in icing for cakes it could not be all that bad. I am going to try some health food stores this weekend for some VG.
Not sure where you're from, but try drug stores. If you ask for it you will probably get a dumbfounded look, but if you look in either skin care or ethnic hair care, usually on a lower shelf you should find it. I've checked several larger drug stores here in SoCal and found it in each (CVS, RiteAid, Walgreens).
 

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I was wondering why some people are buying their g from the drug store and others from a food store. Is the glycerin at the drug store the same glycerin they use in glycerin suppositories, used for constipation??? Isn't that a little worrisome? Couldn't the inhaled glycerin make you have ........?

I've read that we should only be using FOOD GRADE glycerin. I'm assuming that is going to be found in a grocery store? Can anyone comment on this please?
 

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I was wondering why some people are buying their g from the drug store and others from a food store. Is the glycerin at the drug store the same glycerin they use in glycerin suppositories, used for constipation??? Isn't that a little worrisome? Couldn't the inhaled glycerin make you have ........?

I've read that we should only be using FOOD GRADE glycerin. I'm assuming that is going to be found in a grocery store? Can anyone comment on this please?

The only place I've found Glycerin was at the Hobby Lobby (thank ritalee) on the aisle where they keep the cake supplies and Lorann oils. At Walmart they hide it with the Band-Aid. Something about rubbing on your skin for some reason. I'll check at my local CVS to see if I find any there.

If smoking Glycerin gave you diarea we'd all be up .... Creek without a paddle! I've hear of people using too much and getting a stomach ache. I use 1/6 glycerin and 1/6 propylene glycol when I dilute my liquids, so I don't have any trouble. I keep a bottle of 50/50 PG/VG that I use to cut my 18mg into 12mg.

--Prof Daffy
 

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The only place I've found Glycerin was at the Hobby Lobby (thank ritalee) on the aisle where they keep the cake supplies and Lorann oils. At Walmart they hide it with the Band-Aid. Something about rubbing on your skin for some reason. I'll check at my local CVS to see if I find any there.

If smoking Glycerin gave you diarea we'd all be up .... Creek without a paddle! I've hear of people using too much and getting a stomach ache. I use 1/6 glycerin and 1/6 propylene glycol when I dilute my liquids, so I don't have any trouble. I keep a bottle of 50/50 PG/VG that I use to cut my 18mg into 12mg.

--Prof Daffy

Yes CVS has it, it is in the makeup isle. 6oz (177ml) for 5 bucks I think.
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This is the description of Wilton's Glycerin at their website. Notice the Certified Kosher. I would say this stuff is ok to vape. Just my opinion though, I am not a chemist.

Stir into dried out icing color to restore consistency. Certified Kosher. 2 oz.

Sorry for being late to this show...

I did alot of reading all over the internet to make sure I was getting the right thing. I've communicated with pharmacists and queried labs, crude glycerine processors, MSDS's, dictionaries, and encyclopedias, just to make sure I know what the heck I'm talking about here.

Glycerine can be derived from many oils and fats but the best comes from palm-based oleo chemicals due to its exceptional natural purity. Hence, it is preferred in many critical pharmaceutical, food and personal care applications for obvious practical reasons. Only the Technical Tallow Grade or Crude Mixed Glycerine is derived from animal fats and the product must be marked as Technical or Tallow. Most everything else is derived from a Vegetable Source, especially USP and FCC.

FCC grade Vegetable Glycerine is okay to use. It can be traced by a lot number just in case something goes wrong with a batch. The "certified kosher" claim means it didn't get USP approval. When a label says "100% pure vegetable" what they are saying is they tried to remove as much distilled water as possible without making it too thick (100% is BS at the FCC level). It doesn't mean it's better for you either. You have to keep in mind that this grade of Glycerine is only being marketed as a food and/or cosmetic additive and was not purposely designed to inhale Glycerine vapors with... Okay?... But it's your choice in the end. Do what you want.

USP grade Glycerine is more appropriate for medicinal purposes. It is more refined and is ALSO from a vegetable source. It undergoes more vigorous testing and has a better certification. It is slightly higher in quality compared to FCC grade. It also can be traced by a lot number just in case something goes wrong with a batch. Although it isn't specifically marketed for DIY e-juice either, I still trust it more and it seems to run better in my High Volt mod... The staff at HUMCO are the experts in Pharmacopeia Vegetable Glycerine. HUMCO wholesale customers and private label clients include, McKesson Healthcare Solutions, Cardinal Health, AmerisourceBergen, Walgreens, CVS, Rite Aid and Wal-Mart. Don't be surprised if you discover one of those first 3 names mentioned to have a partnership with another company somewhere else who sells Glycerine.

Some companies sell USP-type Glycerine as FCC on the label. The truth is that USP grade can be substituted for FCC grade, but not the other way around. FCC grade has to be refined a little more before it can get the USP stamp of approval. FCC grade can also get the same USP level refinement, but only sold as FCC because it didn't pass USP quality control... and that's where the "certified kosher" claim comes into play.

So, in general terms of e-juice applications, USP Glycerine is practically the same as FCC Glycerine. The only difference is quality control with USP having the extra credential reassurance.

But ultimately you should always avoid any Glycerine which is not USP or FCC grade.

Glycerine (sometimes called glycerin or glycerol in its pure form) is a sugar alcohol and is sweet tasting. Glycerine has many known uses, ranging from food to explosives, making it one of the most versatile natural chemicals ever discovered. Below is a breakdown of all the available Glycerine Grades and typical applications I could find...
  • Crude Mixed (<60%)
    Energy, Technical
  • Crude Vegetable (min 80%)
    Energy, Technical, Feed
  • Crude Vegetable (min 85%)
    Energy, Technical, Feed
  • Crude Vegetable (min 90%)
    Energy, Technical, Feed
  • Partially refined Vegetable (min 98%)
    Energy, Technical, Feed, Cosmetics [some]
  • Tallow (min 99.5%)
    Technical Only [derived from animal fats]
  • Vegetable Refined (min 99.5%)
    Technical, Feed, Food, Cosmetics [FCC]
  • Pharmaceutical Vegetable EP/USP/B.P. (min 99.501%)
    All Applications
Note. Kosher (min 99.5%), Kosher for Passover, GMO-free, Palm-Free and GMP certification is available on several of the above grades.

Did this actually help? Or did I make things worse? I tried... I really really did.
 
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