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I remember both of those. Paraquat you could generally see that the weed was yellow/brown and tasted like crud. PCP is very strong... tried it twice, never again (described it as felt like my brain turned into oatmeal and was running out of my ears)

Is paraquat in the cumquat family? I'm not sure if I spelled cumquat correctly.
 
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OH MY GOD!!!!! From the article:

“The night before, they told me, ‘Hey, you're going to rehab for eight days.’ Which, granted, it was not [for] eight days,” Luka said with a laugh. “They only said that because they know I wouldn't have gotten on a plane otherwise. So they told me the night before and it was mandatory. It was either I do that or have police take me.”

That is some excellent parenting right there. Jesus.

It is also a complete lie. I know this, because while I was getting sole custody of the kid, I asked his lawyer what would happen if his biological dad wanted him. I was like, "I mean, would the police come, what? If I didn't send him."

The lawyer stated no self-respecting police officer would put a teen on a plane to ANYWHERE, because a) teens become dangerous on planes so an officer of the peace would have to accompany said teen, and also, police officers want NOTHING to do with this sort of business they have better things to do with their guns and sirens. I mean he went ON ABOUT every possible deal.

These parents are not only willing to LIE to their OWN CHILD in such a manner, they are also .......

I am getting less jealous-- locked unit. Yeah, been there done that. LOL. So sorry for you Lukas.

Also your name. Lucas is one thing Lukas is quite another.

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Is paraquat in the cumquat family? I'm not sure if I spelled cumquat correctly.
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From the article:

It was about a year after he started vaping that, at 15, Luka in September 2018 suffered a medical scare that left him unconscious for six minutes.

That's like enough for brain damage, but not enough for the kind of brain damage that renders you unable to be a spokesperson. In fact, it is almost enough to be PERFECT in making you a spokesperson.

Life, why you be doing this to me? I WAS supposed to go to rehab first I SWEAR. I was like, ready for knitting group, throwing goodwill plates at the cinderblock wall group, I was prepared to walk the labyrinth with my rehab-LIFE partner.

So many good things were going to happen. I was going to leave, and like relapse immediately, but those thirty days were gonna be SOMETHING.

I genuinely maybe sort of, only he's a DAMN LIAR but he seems dumb enough to not know nicotine is addictive, but also manipulative enough to say he didn't know.

Isn't that EVERY teen's defense? Like, "I did not know!" That and "My drink was SPIKED."

The latter one was my kid's favorite. I used to tell him he'd been roofied so often he should wear a condom 24-7, someone found him ATTRACTIVE.

I hate that this little tool got to nicotine rehab before me! It's NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|

Anna

The rehabs back in the day where they allowed both sexes were rather enjoyable...:)
 

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OH MY GOD!!!!! From the article:

“The night before, they told me, ‘Hey, you're going to rehab for eight days.’ Which, granted, it was not [for] eight days,” Luka said with a laugh. “They only said that because they know I wouldn't have gotten on a plane otherwise. So they told me the night before and it was mandatory. It was either I do that or have police take me.”

That is some excellent parenting right there. Jesus.

It is also a complete lie. I know this, because while I was getting sole custody of the kid, I asked his lawyer what would happen if his biological dad wanted him. I was like, "I mean, would the police come, what? If I didn't send him."

The lawyer stated no self-respecting police officer would put a teen on a plane to ANYWHERE, because a) teens become dangerous on planes so an officer of the peace would have to accompany said teen, and also, police officers want NOTHING to do with this sort of business they have better things to do with their guns and sirens. I mean he went ON ABOUT every possible deal.

These parents are not only willing to LIE to their OWN CHILD in such a manner, they are also .......

I am getting less jealous-- locked unit. Yeah, been there done that. LOL. So sorry for you Lukas.

Also your name. Lucas is one thing Lukas is quite another.

Anna

I can see the look on the responding officer's face. "You want me to help transport the kid to rehab for vaping a Juul??" Guaranteed it's not in any officer's handbook. Although with the way of the world that could well change.

Think of all those $1,200 a day rehab beds just waiting on the latest addiction crisis. "Here kid, slap this patch on. First group is at 10 AM after your morning art therapy".:facepalm:
 

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I'm not for cannabis users to be arrested, but even in recreational legal states it has to be bought through a dispensary with some sorta age verification or grow your own up to x number of plants. Street cartridges and unregistered "sellers" remain illegal. This is a law enforcement matter like fentanyl laced opiates. Sure, you need to have naloxone and treatment programs in place for the users, but the dealer is still fair game for criminal action. How about we put the money and effort there where lives may well be saved, instead of chasing something that will not save one single life in this latest fiasco?
 

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I'm not for cannabis users to be arrested, but even in recreational legal states it has to be bought through a dispensary with some sorta age verification or grow your own up to x number of plants. Street cartridges and unregistered "sellers" remain illegal. This is a law enforcement matter like fentanyl laced opiates. Sure, you need to have naloxone and treatment programs in place for the users, but the dealer is still fair game for criminal action. How about we put the money and effort there where lives may well be saved, instead of chasing something that will not save one single life in this latest fiasco?
Since its been fairly well documented that the deaths and hospitalizations were caused by black market drugs, the DEA (drug enforcement agency) needs to be involved.
 

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If that kid though he was addicted with his little juule he needs to see some proper stuff, I've got about 7 years of kit all over the place haha, but I'm not addicted to it, it's a lifestyle, you gotta know how to vape, it's not good getting crap cheap from the high street and think wow, you gotta learn and then you can indulge
 
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OMG my first psych hospitalization I was on a co-ed unit and HALLWAY.

I was pretty nuts when they assessed me and so they thought I was pretty schizophrenic at first and so they put me on Haldol. Thank God a really smart nurse figured out I was too socially good at annoying the staff I hated and being a general nuisance to be schizophrenic so she got me switched to Seroquel, which I happen to love dearly.

Haldol has this super weird effect on me where I totally lose time. I mean I'm up, I am DOING stuff, but I have ZERO memory of it.

My first transitional day on Seroquel, a nurse and I had THIS conversation:

ME: "I'm going to take a shower."
Nurse: "Okay. DON'T forget your clothes this time."
ME: "WHAT?????"
Nurse: "You don't remember? Yesterday morning you walked naked from the shower to your room.
Me: "I DID? I DID NOT."
Nurse: "You did, I found you crying in your room."

For a moment, I felt deep deep humiliation but then, like I thought about those dudes on that hallway, some of them, and how LONG if EVER it may have been that they had witnessed a chick as young and hot as me, NAKED in the flesh. So I decided to put humiliation away, and to just be like, "Well, good for me." I mean, that is not the kind of thing I would do on PURPOSE. On Haldol? Sure. Deliberately? Not so much.

For a while, I thought I could make an avocation of it honestly, like "Free stripper services at a psych unit near you!" Like, only stay the one night, LOL. That's the thing though, you never get the "just one night guarantee."

I will say no patient ever said one mean thing to me about it, ever. Which was cool.

I will also say, NO SHENANIGANS out of me on dual sex psych units OR rehabs, My impressions usually were, "You know what? I am completely insane, or I wouldn't be here. That means the OTHER people in here are ALSO completely INSANE and I want to get as FAR away from them as FAST as possible, not gather under the sheets with them. OH MY GOD NO.

NO NO NO, if you have relapsed and are in rehab, really the last person you need around you is another relapser. Statistics state one in ten long term sobriety if you are lucky. Mine was HARD WON.

My experience in working with addicts was that I had NO FREAKING clue who was going to the be the other 10%. I had ZERO desire in trying to figure that out in a dang REHAB.

Of course, tobacco rehabs, like we are talking 100% relapse in there. You could bang anybody your little heart desired.....


EVEN LUKAS!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

But I'm pretty sure no matter where he sat in the bleachers he is still a virgin. I find him repellant. Even other snowflakes are gonna be like, "This one ain't quite crystalized right."

That would be question number one out of me at a press conference, but I am going to have the life convo with him he will never forget. You lead with the easy questions...

He'd be like "Some things are private."

I'd be like, "Apparently not so much with you, Lukas. Thank you for answering my question."

Sigh. Lukas is like what I enjoy calling the "Roadkill" personality. Everything that should be KEPT inside is like TURNED inside out. It's not cool.

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OMG my first psych hospitalization I was on a co-ed unit and HALLWAY.

I was pretty nuts when they assessed me and so they thought I was pretty schizophrenic at first and so they put me on Haldol. Thank God a really smart nurse figured out I was too socially good at annoying the staff I hated and being a general nuisance to be schizophrenic so she got me switched to Seroquel, which I happen to love dearly.

Haldol has this super weird effect on me where I totally lose time. I mean I'm up, I am DOING stuff, but I have ZERO memory of it.

My first transitional day on Seroquel, a nurse and I had THIS conversation:

ME: "I'm going to take a shower."
Nurse: "Okay. DON'T forget your clothes this time."
ME: "WHAT?????"
Nurse: "You don't remember? Yesterday morning you walked naked from the shower to your room.
Me: "I DID? I DID NOT."
Nurse: "You did, I found you crying in your room."

For a moment, I felt deep deep humiliation but then, like I thought about those dudes on that hallway, some of them, and how LONG if EVER it may have been that they had witnessed a chick as young and hot as me, NAKED in the flesh. So I decided to put humiliation away, and to just be like, "Well, good for me." I mean, that is not the kind of thing I would do on PURPOSE. On Haldol? Sure. Deliberately? Not so much.

For a while, I thought I could make an avocation of it honestly, like "Free stripper services at a psych unit near you!" Like, only stay the one night, LOL. That's the thing though, you never get the "just one night guarantee."

I will say no patient ever said one mean thing to me about it, ever. Which was cool.

I will also say, NO SHENANIGANS out of me on dual sex psych units OR rehabs, My impressions usually were, "You know what? I am completely insane, or I wouldn't be here. That means the OTHER people in here are ALSO completely INSANE and I want to get as FAR away from them as FAST as possible, not gather under the sheets with them. OH MY GOD NO.

NO NO NO, if you have relapsed and are in rehab, really the last person you need around you is another relapser. Statistics state one in ten long term sobriety if you are lucky. Mine was HARD WON.

My experience in working with addicts was that I had NO FREAKING clue who was going to the be the other 10%. I had ZERO desire in trying to figure that out in a dang REHAB.

Of course, tobacco rehabs, like we are talking 100% relapse in there. You could bang anybody your little heart desired.....


EVEN LUKAS!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

But I'm pretty sure no matter where he sat in the bleachers he is still a virgin. I find him repellant. Even other snowflakes are gonna be like, "This one ain't quite crystalized right."

That would be question number one out of me at a press conference, but I am going to have the life convo with him he will never forget. You lead with the easy questions...

He'd be like "Some things are private."

I'd be like, "Apparently not so much with you, Lukas. Thank you for answering my question."

Sigh. Lukas is like what I enjoy calling the "Roadkill" personality. Everything that should be KEPT inside is like TURNED inside out. It's not cool.

Anna

You don't like him do you?
 

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I'm not really his biggest fan. I'd enjoy a group session with him, Ephraim Cooper (I MISS YOU SO MUCH) and dripster though.

I think. I'm not sur e I could control the group. I usually am fairly certain I can control the group, but in this instance I believe I might leave group therapy in tears. That can't happen, I would never regain my self respect.

I'd need a backup therapist in the room, someone super rational and perhaps a cattle prod. Normally I use stickers. Stickers are magical reinforcers. When I went to a DBT group for MYSELF (I was already a DBT trained therapist, so I was uppity) I told the therapist when she gave me a sticker "I don't need a STICKER for doing something I was going to do anyway." She was like, "Too bad, you are getting the sticker."

Halfway through the group there was this Yoda Sticker I wanted SO MUCH. I hated it, but I wanted it. I never achieved it.

I did get the PTSD easy button, which was cool. It was like the Staples button, and you were awarded it if the therapist deemed your life as TOTALLY unlivable, but you were doing it anyway. That was right around the time the kid told me his dad had threatened to kill me and the husband if the kid told us the ex had relapsed.

I very calmly told the kid that it was a lot EASIER to SAY those things than to do them. BUT my ex WAS in charge of a lot of illegal workers and I was pretty convinced that I needed to travel there, with an unregistered gun, and engineer a situation in which I was able to "wrestle the gun from the husband and shoot him dead in self defense." I was like "I could TOTALLY get through a court hearing, you pass polygraphs by like believing you are not lying and I know how to do that."

The husband pointed out that my doing so would not negate the impact of my having KILLED off the child's biological father and I thought about it and I was like, "Yeah, I don't have to be more dysfunctional than the dysfunctional one." Now, I'm glad I didn't. But you know, it was an uncomfortable time.

LOL.

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Someday I'd love to hear about that thing called parental responsibility again, and personal responsibility..

It used to be big when I was a kid.. seems it's fallen out of favor..
I'm with you there...its so unbelievable how it's always somebody else's fault, no matter what......
 
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