Once you Sub you can't stop

[Fuzzy Bruce]

I never tried any of the sub-ohm tanks. Went from tanks to dripping at or about 0.4-0.6 ohms and have found my vape nirvana. No more getting the next best thing. My vape budget is now for juice. Sure, May buy another device or two but this will be the same as the ones I found vape heaven with.

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[tj99959]

Very true. I want see someone try to build a 1+ ohm coil with ni200 wire

But I don't want to use ni200 wire. I have a lifetime supply of Kanthal.

 

[chopdoc]

I got my first mech in early January. First regulated mod in late January. So I have very limited experience, and can only speak for myself. I am a mouth to lung inhaler. At first I thought my gosh there is so much more airflow, these MUST be for lung inhalers. But I have adapted, and gotten used to a fast draw of about 1 to 1-1/2 seconds, instead of 3 to 4 seconds on a typical Ego setup. So yes, there is joy to be found for me with these new toys. However, I still use my Egos and clearos when I'm out running around, and only use the big guns at home.

To answer your question though.. I feel that your statement is MOSTLY true, and a little bit false. With a FAST draw, sub-ohm can be enjoyable if you are a mouth to lung inhaler. Sub-ohm builds are PROBABLY MUCH MORE advantageous to those whose do direct lung inhales. IMHO.

Sub-ohm or not, for some reason I dislike going much over 30 watts. I can't imagine 150 watts. It must be like vaping an arc welder.

When I first started vaping I could not lung hit at all. I tried and tried and then I found out I was using way too much nicotine to lung hit with a dripper. Now I can use my TOBH (.3 ohm), Patriot (.4 ohm) or Magma (.6 ohm) all day long and enjoy them with 3mg nicotine but I also use EGO's with CE5's and T3S's a lot with 6mg to 12 mg nicotine. The ego's I mouth hit and the drippers I lung hit. The ego's are for the day going here and there while the drippers are for the house.

Thinking once you sub ohm you cant go back is kinda narrow minded. I know some people are that way but not all. I am very satisfied using my Ego's and mini tanks and at times I wont even touch my drippers for days and at other times I cant put them down. Everyone is different. Currently I have over 20 1100 mah Ego batteries, no telling how many G5-H2 CE5's (3 new 5 packs on shelf plus many more) Kanger T3S's & MT3's as well as my drippers plus a handful of mini drippers. A King Gold, a Caravela and a Tree of Life mech mod plus a Vamo and an Istick. I have no intentions of stop using Ego's for they are satisfying as well as convenient but I am also going to enjoy dripping.

With dripper you limit what you can do. If I go into a store and bust out a mod with a dripper and blow a huge cloud I am probably going to be asked to leave the store but if I take a few satisfying puffs from an ego no one is going to really care. i do it all the time and have yet to receive any grief from it. Plus I find an Ego with a CE5 to be just as satisfying as a dripper.

 

[Oberon75]

So, same addiction, different delivery method. Yay for us.

I don't know...sometimes, I wonder if all this collective patting ourselves on the back for switching to vaping is a little precipitous.

Considering its much safer yet much more of a hassle, I would say yes. And the fact that many of us are saving lives by turning both smokers and potential smokers to vaping, I think we deserve the pat on the back.

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[Oberon75]

But I don't want to use ni200 wire. I have a lifetime supply of Kanthal.

And what did you pay for that supply of Kanthal? $20? A 100ft roll of Ni200 is the price of a Happy Meal. Having a supply of Kanthal isnt a very good reason not to try it.

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[WildChameleon]

Reading the comments in this thread it seems to myself that a lot that commented in this thread have been vaping a lot longer them myself. Some people are really into the rebuild able side of vaping. Building coils building atomizers dripping etc.

Sub ohm vaping i think let's new vapers make the next step in the evolution ladder. That can only be a good thing in the long term, there's a lot of vapers out there that don't even know what sub vaping is.

If sub vaping had been around Sept last year it might have saved me money going through the various tanks out there ?

At the end of the day i sub vape sometimes i don't but it all about making vaping a better experience and improving the quality at the same time.

 

[tj99959]

And what did you pay for that supply of Kanthal? $20? A 100ft roll of Ni200 is the price of a Happy Meal. Having a supply of Kanthal isnt a very good reason not to try it.

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Guess you missed my point.
Why should I try it if I'm satisfied with what I have?

Just because something new comes along, doesn't mean it's any better. It can't get any better than liking what you're getting.

 

[redddog]

Well... I kinda feel like a minority around here. At first, it was the lung hit method that had me doubting that it was for me. I slowly got used to it and it really wasn't an issue.

Ultimately, though, the issue with me is that I find the flavor to be lacking with the sub-ohm stuff I have. I've used the Subtank mini (both pre-made and rba) and the Melo and the flavor for both is nowhere near the flavor I get with an aspire viv nova with a BVC. And THAT isn't even the most well-reviewed set-up in the land.

I've always gotten more nicotine and throat hit, of course, but from a flavor stand-point, I've always felt like a total outsider when it comes to sub-ohming. I'd be all over it if the flavor were there for me but it get way more flavor out of the aspire stuff.

 

[caramel]

So, same addiction, different delivery method. Yay for us.

I don't know...sometimes, I wonder if all this collective patting ourselves on the back for switching to vaping is a little precipitous.

Depends on what your goals are. I'm already at 0mg and vape only as a coffee sidekick. It's pretty much an optional activity for me. Not having cravings is a very good outcome in my book.

 

[Oberon75]

Guess you missed my point.
Why should I try it if I'm satisfied with what I have?

Just because something new comes along, doesn't mean it's any better.

Or it very well might be. I know I love mine and my iPV and RDA's using Kanthal builds now sit. No more dry hits, more battery life and my liquid is always safe from overheating, causing toxins.

Now I know everybody is different and people enjoy different things. But one thing I've really noticed about the vaping community is, people are very much set in their ways. Because of this, people miss out on something because they aren't willing to try change.

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[tj99959]

Or it very well might be. I know I love mine and my iPV and RDA's using Kanthal builds now sit. No more dry hits, more battery life and my liquid is always safe from overheating, causing toxins.

Now I know everybody is different and people enjoy different things. But one thing I've really noticed about the vaping community is, people are very much set in their ways. Because of this, people miss out on something because they aren't willing to try change.

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Trust me on this, there isn't anything out there that I haven't tried, but that wasn't my point at all.
When you find what you like ... you will have found what you like. From that point on trying new stuff is only for the reasons of understanding what it's about because you will always revert back to what you like.

 

[Oberon75]

Trust me on this, there isn't anything out there that I haven't tried, but that wasn't my point at all.
When you find what you like ... you will have found what you like. From that point on trying new stuff is only for the reasons of understanding what it's about because you will always revert back to what you like.

Well were all different I guess. I went from cigalike to eVod to MVP/Nautilus to iPV/Kanthal builds to DNA40/ni200. Now I've liked every one except the cigalike but with each upgrade, I haven't looked back.

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[JHDublin]

I wouldn't go back to pre-made coils for the simple reason that they were costing to much, I agree that RBAs use a lot more juice but I mix my own the days and it is just as good as the stuff from the shops if not better and only costing a fraction of the price, I got enough stuff delivered today to make myself over 2 litres of juice and it only cost me 100 Euro

 

[Brandon David]

Sub ohming isn't really my bag either. I have a couple of drippers that I dabbled in super sub ohming with but all in all, my adv's are a lemo drop on an istick 50w running a 1ish ohm build and my primary go-to is my veritas on a sig 100+ running around 1.4 ohms.

 

[kartoffelfaust]

Well... I kinda feel like a minority around here. At first, it was the lung hit method that had me doubting that it was for me. I slowly got used to it and it really wasn't an issue.

Ultimately, though, the issue with me is that I find the flavor to be lacking with the sub-ohm stuff I have. I've used the Subtank mini (both pre-made and rba) and the Melo and the flavor for both is nowhere near the flavor I get with an aspire viv nova with a BVC. And THAT isn't even the most well-reviewed set-up in the land.

I've always gotten more nicotine and throat hit, of course, but from a flavor stand-point, I've always felt like a total outsider when it comes to sub-ohming. I'd be all over it if the flavor were there for me but it get way more flavor out of the aspire stuff.

Your experience my be due to the liquid you are using. There are some I like, but they taste terrible above 14watts or so.

 

[BlueCanary]

I resisted the whole "sub ohm" thing for a while. Because it seemed dangerous, and because reading so many posts on here it seemed like a fad that was just for kids who wanted to blow clouds. I've enjoyed vaping from the get go, but always found a little something lacking that I couldn't put my finger on. I've gone from egos to an MVP with a nautilus/protanks to an iStick to an eGrip and was fairly satisfied with all those things…until I wasn't. Something was always missing, and my satisfaction level would drop off.

I'm currently using a Kbox most of the time with a subtank nano and a couple of RDAs (mutilator and TOBH). I'm not super sub ohming….my builds seem best at about .65 to .75, the tank of course is .5. And I'm running a consistent 35 w on my Kbox. I am also using the aspire sub ohm batteries some, which are fine but I like being able to control the wattage. And I'm getting what I was missing before. Warm, thick vapor, good taste. I LOVE the airy draw and being able to inhale directly into my lungs, it feels so much more satisfying somehow. I've been using the tank for out and about, and my RBAs at home, and as much as I didn't want to fool with dripping at the beginning, I can't wait to get home and use them now. The taste is so much better and I feel much more satisfied with the vapor. I don't see ever really needing to go above the 40 watts that the kbox puts out, and I like a smaller device vs a huge box mod. But I'm happy with the vape I'm getting, and I don't want a cigarette which is what it is all about. I'm also on 6mg of nicotine vs 18mg just a couple of months ago.

I don't understand some people's need to nitpick, complain about, and judge how others vape. Do we not have enough problems from antz and ignorant people without being our own worst enemy? Everyone is different, and as long as they are happy with their vaping it does not matter what anyone else thinks. In fact, it's no more anyone's business how I vape than how I do anything else in my personal life. Some of the "these kids today, sitting in the vape shop blowing those naughty clouds, with their hippity hoppity and their sub ohm coils, they need to get off my lawn!" comments that I read on here kinda reek of snobbery, which is unfortunate. (Not talking about the OP, that was a legit question, but it seems like any time the topic of sub ohm vaping comes up, people feel the need to chime in in a negative way and argue for the sake of arguing, which I just don't understand.)

 

[LMS62]

I don't understand some people's need to nitpick, complain about, and judge how others vape. Do we not have enough problems from antz and ignorant people without being our own worst enemy? Everyone is different, and as long as they are happy with their vaping it does not matter what anyone else thinks. In fact, it's no more anyone's business how I vape than how I do anything else in my personal life. Some of the "these kids today, sitting in the vape shop blowing those naughty clouds, with their hippity hoppity and their sub ohm coils, they need to get off my lawn!" comments that I read on here kinda reek of snobbery, which is unfortunate. (Not talking about the OP, that was a legit question, but it seems like any time the topic of sub ohm vaping comes up, people feel the need to chime in in a negative way and argue for the sake of arguing, which I just don't understand.)

Don't forget the need by some to mention that those vape shop cloud chuckers have.....wait for it.....wait for it.......tattoos! OMG!

 

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[Oberon75]

I resisted the whole "sub ohm" thing for a while. Because it seemed dangerous, and because reading so many posts on here it seemed like a fad that was just for kids who wanted to blow clouds. I've enjoyed vaping from the get go, but always found a little something lacking that I couldn't put my finger on. I've gone from egos to an MVP with a nautilus/protanks to an iStick to an eGrip and was fairly satisfied with all those things…until I wasn't. Something was always missing, and my satisfaction level would drop off.

I'm currently using a Kbox most of the time with a subtank nano and a couple of RDAs (mutilator and TOBH). I'm not super sub ohming….my builds seem best at about .65 to .75, the tank of course is .5. And I'm running a consistent 35 w on my Kbox. I am also using the aspire sub ohm batteries some, which are fine but I like being able to control the wattage. And I'm getting what I was missing before. Warm, thick vapor, good taste. I LOVE the airy draw and being able to inhale directly into my lungs, it feels so much more satisfying somehow. I've been using the tank for out and about, and my RBAs at home, and as much as I didn't want to fool with dripping at the beginning, I can't wait to get home and use them now. The taste is so much better and I feel much more satisfied with the vapor. I don't see ever really needing to go above the 40 watts that the kbox puts out, and I like a smaller device vs a huge box mod. But I'm happy with the vape I'm getting, and I don't want a cigarette which is what it is all about. I'm also on 6mg of nicotine vs 18mg just a couple of months ago.

I don't understand some people's need to nitpick, complain about, and judge how others vape. Do we not have enough problems from antz and ignorant people without being our own worst enemy? Everyone is different, and as long as they are happy with their vaping it does not matter what anyone else thinks. In fact, it's no more anyone's business how I vape than how I do anything else in my personal life. Some of the "these kids today, sitting in the vape shop blowing those naughty clouds, with their hippity hoppity and their sub ohm coils, they need to get off my lawn!" comments that I read on here kinda reek of snobbery, which is unfortunate. (Not talking about the OP, that was a legit question, but it seems like any time the topic of sub ohm vaping comes up, people feel the need to chime in in a negative way and argue for the sake of arguing, which I just don't understand.)

It's because it's this hip, cool thing they will never understand. Like that heavy metal music my parents used to harass me about in the 80's and 90's. They trash and voice opinions on things they will never understand because they are too set in their ways.

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[Oberon75]

Don't forget the need by some to mention that those vape shop cloud chuckers have.....wait for it.....wait for it.......tattoos! OMG!

I chuck clouds in the vape shop and I'm almost 40 years old with a fiance and two children. No tattoos though.

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