Online Credit Card Fraud - What To Look For In A Vendor and How To Protect Yourself

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This is a popular topic here and I often see posts about it. This is some background information that may help you understand how this all works.


I have been doing internet marketing for 20 years, half of that with e-commerce websites of some form. I currently run a website on the Big Commerce platform, which I will discuss, but I am not affiliated with them or any other company I mention.


The first thing to understand is the chain in a secure transaction. You visit a merchant's web page, enter your credit card and hit Confirm. On a good, secure site, your credit card information is immediately heavily encrypted and sent to the processor. The owner of your website never sees your credit card information. (Unless you choose to store your credit card info with the merchant, NEVER a good idea!)


The processor is a separate business entity and actually handles the communication to your bank or credit card company. The good ones are incredibly secure and held to very stringent standards. The processor communicates with your bank and receives a message either approving or deying the transaction. The processor then sends an encrypted message back to the merchant's website, authorizing or denying the transaction.


Let's break this down into steps.


The first thing is the merchant's website. Almost all e-cig vendors' sites are on hosted e-commerce platforms. These platforms are separate business entities and "rent" you a storefront. You input the text, pictures, and product info and they handle everything else. You can setup an e-commerce site in a couple of hours if you know what you're doing, and it's cheap. I pay $50/month for a site that's doing $1 million/year.


Of course there are good platforms and bad ones. There are really big, secure, well-run ones like Big Commerce, Volusion, and others. There are of course bargain basement options, as well as do-it-yourself. The big companies host tens of thousands of stores, their reputation is everything because it's incredibly cheap to create a new store on a better platform. It's basic evolution- the best platforms are the biggest- they keep security super tight because they control everything except the text, pictures, and product info on all those sites. And they throw a lot into developing an interface that's easy to use, so vendors don't have to be web experts to create one. The good ones are elegant, secure, stable and safe.


There is a small percentage of do-it-yourself sites that are secure. If you really know what you're doing, you can do it for free, but that requires some deep knowledge and maintenance.


So, most vendors don't actually "own" the site. It's kind of like a flea market- they have their booths but all the transactions are handled up front at the main register.


The second step is the processor. Again, there are very, very good ones. Authorize.net is probably the biggest and is very secure. They are also not cheap. They take a portion of each transaction, depending on how much volume you're doing. The big platforms mentioned above have established relationships with the better processors and offer easy linkups.


So, what should you look for to make sure a vendor is secure?


Find out what platform they are on. This is often listed in tiny type at the bottom of the web page. Or ask the vendor before you purchase. Google "Top 10 e-commerce platforms." If you don't see their platform on that list, be careful. If they are hosting it themselves, be VERY careful. I would not purchase from these sites with anything but PayPal.


Find out who the processor is. You'll have to ask, but if they don't tell you, don't do business with them. Goolge the processor and see if they're in the top 5. If not, stick to PayPal or don't shop there.


What can you do to safeguard yourself?


Never store your credit card info on the web site. I don't care if it's Amazon, don't do it.


Do some research on your vendor's site. Check out the platform and the processor.


Use a pre-loaded card, or PayPal.
 

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Thanks for getting this information out there. Makes a lot of sense. Hopefully, one day, this industry can use credible companies for processing without the risk of getting shut down like so many sites have.

Amen to this. With a lot of e-commerce sites and processors closed to e-cigarette vendors and the U.S. branch of PayPal banning e-cigarette products, where's a vaping business to turn?
 

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Great post. Very informative.

One thing that I keep seeing all over this forum, is the recommendation to only use pre-loaded cards. I just do not get why. If ones credit card is compromised, so long as the theft is reported within a reasonable amount of time (60days?), the card holder is not responsible for any fraudulent charges as mandated by Federal law. Seems to me going through the extra hassle and expense of using a pre-loaded card is really only protecting the bank.

Having had my primary, daily use card hacked last year, I now have a separate card that is only used for online purchases. I peek at it, and my primary card typically every few days when I log into my bank account to pays bills etc. If it gets hacked, and the bank doesn't catch it before I do, it's just a matter of informing the bank and having a new card sent out. I still will have at least one "good" card that way at all times. What am I missing here?

That said, even though there are similar safeguards for debit cards, I never use my debit card for any online purchase, and rarely for anything else for that matter. Never want to be in a situation where my account is cleaned out and have to wait on the bank to restore MY money.
 

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No need to give any type of false hope to anyone. The best processing/data storage companies in the World are always at rick just like the smaller operations. In many cases more so due to the bigger score if successfully hacked.

Only pre-paid, load as you go cards are semi-safe, but will cost a lot in excess fees over time. Heck, I've even received a $50 gift card that was hacked/tapped out before being sold. That is why they are not loaded until purchase now.
 

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I think it's a matter of convenience. It's a hassle to report fraudulent charges, get a new credit card, change all your recurring bills, etc. A prepaid card makes a lot of sense.

Definitely agree with the hassle of changing all the recurring charges tied to a CC. Been there, done that. That is why my vape card is just, for well, vape gear. I can get by a few days without making an online purchase. Makes it easy to know that I spend to much on vape stuff too.

Prepaid is an expense and hassle every time it is used. And I know me, $8 left ona pre-paid card...now lets see what else I don't need.:facepalm:
 
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