I've never managed it but some people here have. I think I read a post about a over powerful steam cleaner that pushed one out, perhaps heat will help.
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I've never managed it but some people here have. I think I read a post about a over powerful steam cleaner that pushed one out, perhaps heat will help.
I guess the first thing is to find out how they are put together. Glued, pressed or what?
All the ones I've tried have been press fit. I've never had a duff atomiser and a duff battery at the same time so I haven't tried the obvious method of screwing them together and pulling hard, knowing my luck it would be the good one that came out
I have both may ask my husband to see what he can do. He can put a battery in his vice and pull on the adomizer. Let you know.
They are Press Fitted.
Only way I have heard, is to cut the tube and push it out (gently with a Hammer) from the battery end with a rod or dowel. An old battery may work. Heating it up over a candle, or with a torch would help, as long as you dont get it hot enough to melt wires or anything.
Only way I have heard, is to cut the tube and push it out (gently with a Hammer) from the battery end with a rod or dowel. An old battery may work. Heating it up over a candle, or with a torch would help, as long as you dont get it hot enough to melt wires or anything.
You know what I'd like to see? battery connector adapters. So let's say you have (like in my case, GRRR) a good DSE901 atomizer with bad batteries and a generic penstyle with good batteries and a bad atomizer. Make a connector to screw onto the penstyle battery, and have the correct threading for the DSE on the opposing side. ANd vice versa, so you could use the DSE batts on a penstyle atomizer. Kinda like plumbing adapters for your kitchen faucet. Some have internal threads, some have external you know? THAT would be very very useful. Especially RIGHT NOW IN MY HANDS!!!! 
Can anybody whip that up and deliver it to me in say.....an hour?????
Can anybody whip that up and deliver it to me in say.....an hour?????
Sounds like Barry has his first Project. (odd saying that, thats my Real name too )
Find out the screw thread of the 801 and the 901, and bottom tap a few adaptors
Brass Cuts real easy
Just thought of something, you would need a center-pin with rubber O rings or tiny grommet for the battery connector.
)Find out the screw thread of the 801 and the 901, and bottom tap a few adaptors
Brass Cuts real easy
Just thought of something, you would need a center-pin with rubber O rings or tiny grommet for the battery connector.
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you know, I think I've almost got it figured.
I got the connector off my crap pen atomizer.
the middle post has got that grommet and it moves in and out a bit. If I can scrape the paint off the side of the good atomizer, and hold that connector firmly with the middle post against the middle post on the good atomizer, I could solder the connector around the atomizer to carry current and hold it in place..........
I'm getting the toolbox out
It would be a really fugly e-cig, but I don't care. I've got 2 more sets on order. better safe than sorry......and vapourless.
I got the connector off my crap pen atomizer.
the middle post has got that grommet and it moves in and out a bit. If I can scrape the paint off the side of the good atomizer, and hold that connector firmly with the middle post against the middle post on the good atomizer, I could solder the connector around the atomizer to carry current and hold it in place..........
I'm getting the toolbox out
It would be a really fugly e-cig, but I don't care. I've got 2 more sets on order. better safe than sorry......and vapourless.
Sounds like Barry has his first Project. (odd saying that, thats my Real name too
Find out the screw thread of the 801 and the 901, and bottom tap a few adaptors
Brass Cuts real easy
Just thought of something, you would need a center-pin with rubber O rings or tiny grommet for the battery connector.
All the ones I've tried have been press fit. I've never had a duff atomiser and a duff battery at the same time so I haven't tried the obvious method of screwing them together and pulling hard, knowing my luck it would be the good one that came out
I thought about trying this, but I would expect it to just strip the threads. Ended up using a dremel tool.
Sounds like Barry has his first Project. (odd saying that, thats my Real name too
Find out the screw thread of the 801 and the 901, and bottom tap a few adaptors
Brass Cuts real easy
Just thought of something, you would need a center-pin with rubber O rings or tiny grommet for the battery connector.
The actual adapters would be easy to make, the problems come when you try to identify the thread, I surmised in another post that the thread on my 801 is M10x1mm pitch - it's actually a very rare, extra fine metric pitch - M9 x 0.75mm pitch.
Now taps and dies for this size are rarer than Rocking Horse Poop - they are available, but at a ridiculous price, i.e. - around £50 for the die & £35 for the tap.
I'm guessing that any other threads on other makes/styles of cigarette will be equally rare metric extra fine.
Now- I'm some of the people on these forums have identified these threads but, so far have shown no inclination to share that information with the rest of us.
This is why I feel we need an independent, open source project, where this sort of information can be stored - and some of the smoke & flim-flam that's being introduced can be filtered out.
So as I said, if anyone wants adapters made - send me a couple of broken components, of the type you want to be able to fit together and I'll see what I can do. (pm me for my address)
THanks for the mention of the'grommet' device in the atomiser - I hadn't even consider that something like that was incorporated - I'll have to cut an atomiser open and take a good look at what it actually consists of.
Cheers
Barry
I can picture a lot of things in my head, but working that small is next to impossible. Even if you had a jewlers lathe.
Micro springs would be impossible to get, let along fit.
Maybe i can make a couple drawings.
Micro springs would be impossible to get, let along fit.
Maybe i can make a couple drawings.
I think this is a great idea.
I don't have much technical expertise to contribute, but I do have some spare web space if you wanted a dedicated forum for it
There may even be some open source software for managing this type of project that I could set up.
I don't have much technical expertise to contribute, but I do have some spare web space if you wanted a dedicated forum for it
There may even be some open source software for managing this type of project that I could set up.
I'll toss an idea out there... it's not for hardware, though, but software.
Single-use carts are expensive to replace, and refilling a cart by dripping into the wool can get messy and tiresome.
What if nic and PG or VG could fill a cart in a gelatinous form? A nic gel would allow more substance (egel, if you will) and less medium (the wool) fill each cart, resulting in more vaping per cart. The gel would melt as warmed by the atomizer, much the way plug-in air fresheners work.
I am neither a chemist nor a physicist, so I suspect there are some problems with this idea or someone would be doing it already!
Single-use carts are expensive to replace, and refilling a cart by dripping into the wool can get messy and tiresome.
What if nic and PG or VG could fill a cart in a gelatinous form? A nic gel would allow more substance (egel, if you will) and less medium (the wool) fill each cart, resulting in more vaping per cart. The gel would melt as warmed by the atomizer, much the way plug-in air fresheners work.
I am neither a chemist nor a physicist, so I suspect there are some problems with this idea or someone would be doing it already!
nor me dale, sounds reasonable though. not a bad idea at all. you might have to keep the device in a certain position though so gravity wouldn't interfere with the connection of the gel to atomizing element. there could be a work around though. (persky gravity)
Perhaps some sort of incredibly weak spring device to maintain a constant, light pressure against the wick? This would also ensure that as the gel is used up, the whole of it would be vaporised, instead of just a little dent in the top being formed.
I think the main issue with that would be gelatin residue clogging the atomizer, and then it's lights out. I'm sure there's some way of purifying it like the propylene glycol but will it be as cost effective as polyester and e-liquid? we could whip up a batch of jell-o with some rolling tobacco and see what happens.
Theres no way to preheat it, it just would never melt, or melt inconsistantly.
now a reservoir with a primmer pump i could see, but wouldnt be any better then what we have.
now a reservoir with a primmer pump i could see, but wouldnt be any better then what we have.
If you dig deep into the forum archives .. you'll find one of the very first posts made here, probably about the first of the year, was by Smokey Joe wondering why gel is not used.
Manufacturers are not stupid, so if gel would work, it would have been done long before now.
Virtually everything about e-cig design has been thought of, written about, discussed and rejected. And some things have been patented but never produced. And if it hasn't happened on this forum, then the Dutch tried it in 2007 and wrote about it ...
Manufacturers are not stupid, so if gel would work, it would have been done long before now.
Virtually everything about e-cig design has been thought of, written about, discussed and rejected. And some things have been patented but never produced. And if it hasn't happened on this forum, then the Dutch tried it in 2007 and wrote about it ...
TBob: I think you would be amazed at how many people's own creativity has been quashed simply because they had a good idea and assumed that since it was so simple, somebody already though of it and tried it, and was unsuccessful. Innovation requires turning failure into success, thinking outside the box, and solving problems. All too often, people get hung up on a certain way of doing things and stop thinking "outside the box." Not trying to sound "trollish" in this post. I think there is much room for improvement in the e-cig arena - and I think all of us would love to be part of that improvement!
Each of us has our own unique way of looking at things and seeing how things work. I think if we put our collective heads together, the outcome would be exceptional!
Each of us has our own unique way of looking at things and seeing how things work. I think if we put our collective heads together, the outcome would be exceptional!
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