Ordered my first mod and RTA

[gabos]

Hi forum.

So after watching a ton of YouTube video's about the basics and everything I need to know about vaping, I decided to find a build that would suit my needs and be light on the wallet.

So I came up with this build:

Eleaf - iPower 80W
Geekvape - Zeus Dual RTA
Coil Master - Flat Twisted Coil

Also got
Cuttwood - Boss Reserve (Shake 'N Vape) 0mg nic.

Wanted to try the hyped Unicorn Milk but it was out of stock.

Firsly I have a question about the coils. These are kanthal A1, 3mm with 6 loops. The website says that the resistance is 0.36±0.05Ω. Im not sure why the resistance varies this much. What I do know is that if I pop in two of these coils in my Zeus RTA, the resistance will be halved. Could anyone explain why the resistance could vary that much?

I'd like to vape at 60W on 0.18 ohm.

What I also don't really understand is at what mode I should vape Kanthal.
The Eleaf infosheet says that I should use VW, Bypass or SMART mode for vaping at 0.18ohm.


I used some online calculators and the coils should be fine on 80W.

I'd like to hear you guys thoughts about this build. I know the Zeus RTA will have overhang but I don't really care.

 

[flavourchaser]

Think of the coils as a highway or road, if you add another road there's more cars flowing or at this case electrons(current), which mean less resistance. Therefor by adding another coil the resistance will be halved.

For kanthal use VW.

Lastly Hello and welcome to ECF

 

[gabos]

Think of the coils as a highway or road, if you add another road there's more cars flowing or at this case electrons, which mean less resistance. Therefor by adding another coil the resistance will be halved.

For kanthal use VW.

Lastly Hello and welcome to ECF

Hi and thanks

It was clear to me that multiple coils lower the resistance. What I don't understand is why the coils show a resistance between 0.36 and 0.05Ω. Could the resistance be different depending on how I wick them? They are prebuild so I would guess their resistance would be consistant.

 

[TheVapeG]

That’s a great way of putting it. I bought some coils from GB Vapes in Halifax (UK) and the guy at the shop explained it in such a complicated way that it went in through one ear and out the other. So basically the more coils the less resistance... simples. And the less resistance the more temperature you can build up to increase flavour. Am I right?

 

[flavourchaser]

If I'm getting this right, are you saying that your resistance is fluctuating? If so check the screws for your coils and make sure they are tightly secured.

 

[gabos]

Ah, I think I understand now. They are just displaying the minimum of resistance the coils will handle! So, if I would put in two coils, I'd have a resistance of 0.18ohms .

Thanks guys! My order will arrive tuesday, looking forward to it!

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

The +/- 0.05Ω is just a variable based on how long or short the legs might end up being after installation. Longer legs = higher resistance. Shorter legs = lower resistance. Also, as the coils are installed it is possible to tighten or loosen the coils...

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[Zaryk]

There could be variables that effect the coil's final resistance. The leg lengths differ from one atomizer to the next and that can cause the exact same coil to read different on different set ups.

0.05 ohms is not all that much when measuring ohms. That is five one hundredths of one ohm. It can make a difference on super low builds, but it is still a miniscule amount.

I would advise to forget about the predetermined wattage you picked out, as you have no clue what that will be like with the equipment you picked out. You are over thinking it. When you get your stuff, build it and start low on your wattage and slowly work your way up until you get a satisfying vape for you. What works for others may be something you cannot tolerate or enjoy, so picking out a wattage before you even have your equipment is just setting your self up for failure. Also, running dual coils at that ohm range on a device like you have picked out will work, but can eat the battery up very fast, and you may find yourself charging your device more than you are vaping it.

 

[gabos]

There could be variables that effect the coil's final resistance. The leg lengths differ from one atomizer to the next and that can cause the exact same coil to read different on different set ups.

0.05 ohms is not all that much when measuring ohms. That is five one hundredths of one ohm. It can make a difference on super low builds, but it is still a miniscule amount.

I would advise to forget about the predetermined wattage you picked out, as you have no clue what that will be like with the equipment you picked out. You are over thinking it. When you get your stuff, build it and start low on your wattage and slowly work your way up until you get a satisfying vape for you. What works for others may be something you cannot tolerate or enjoy, so picking out a wattage before you even have your equipment is just setting your self up for failure. Also, running dual coils at that ohm range on a device like you have picked out will work, but can eat the battery up very fast, and you may find yourself charging your device more than you are vaping it.

Thank you. I read some user reviews and that is where I got my wattage from.
I will try to find a balance between saving battery life and enjoying my vape with dual coils.

 

[Myk]

That much??? +/- .05Ω? You probably can't screw them in that accurately.
It's not .36Ω to .05Ω. It is .41Ω to .31Ω.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Dumb question.....why is it that you want to vape .18 at 60 watts? Why not .5 at 30w or .3 at 35w or 1.0 at 12w?
If you're new to this, I'd suggest starting a little higher and finding what YOU like rather than mimicking what works for some YouTuber.
Either way, welcome and glad you're here.

 

[sonicbomb]

On a regulated device the resistance of the coil/s is not really important.
Shifting resistance usually means there is a loose connection. Loosen then tighten your posts down on your leads.

 

[BrotherBob]

I decided to find a build that would suit my needs

Welcome and glad you joined.
You tube is great site that aids in learning how to vape. I found that the follow articles tend to round out some essential vape information:
Might like to read:
Learn About Vaping Here - Everything Ecigs - From Beginner To Advanced
Vaping and Inhaling: Everything You Need To Know
https://spinfuel.com/new-vapers-start/
ECigarette Academy: Essential Need to Know for New Vapers
http://guidetovaping.com/category/e-cig-beginner/
Vaping 101: Here's Everything You Need to Know about Vaping
6 Quick & Useful Vaping Tips for Beginners
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...up-the-vaping-ladder-with-egos-and-mods.5058/
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...nk-or-what-a-guide-to-juice-attachments.3230/

 

[gabos]

Update:

So I got all the stuff few days ago and after installing the coils and wicking it, I found a sweetspot at around 35-40 watts using a 50/50 mix. Dual coils came out at 0.21 ohm. I enjoy it more over single coil I found.
Tried going up but it's just too hot and unpleasant to vape IMO.

Thank you all for the help

 

[Coyote628]

Update:

So I got all the stuff few days ago and after installing the coils and wicking it, I found a sweetspot at around 35-40 watts using a 50/50 mix. Dual coils came out at 0.21 ohm. I enjoy it more over single coil I found.
Tried going up but it's just too hot and unpleasant to vape IMO.

Thank you all for the help

Then you have it just right. Well done!! A number of different variable might have caused the coils to come up SLIGHTLY in resistance. No big deal, really, especially if you like the vape youre getting with it. Seriously, estimated .18ohm vs actual .21ohm isnt enough to worry about. Its a .03 difference and falls within the range of that coil build. You did good. And it works. Thats awesome.

 

[NealBJr]

That’s a great way of putting it. I bought some coils from GB Vapes in Halifax (UK) and the guy at the shop explained it in such a complicated way that it went in through one ear and out the other. So basically the more coils the less resistance... simples. And the less resistance the more temperature you can build up to increase flavour. Am I right?

lol.. one easier way to imagine it is like power is water flowing through pipes. You have a pipe that will allow one gallon of water per second to flow out of it and a pump that can pump 5 gallons per second. You're still going to get one gallon per second because of the pipe, and it resists the other four gallons that the pump could put out. Add a second pipe, and you can then use two gallons per second, and it resists three instead of four gallons per second.

In short, a second wire halves the resistance. two .8 ohm coils will make a .4 ohm build, two .3 ohm coils will make a .15 ohm build, etc.