Ordering from China after ban, my thoughts...

[Nazdrowie009]

Don't you think after the ban we could still at least order batteries and atomizers in small quantities-if the atomizer didnt have a mouth piece on the end. They would simply look like electrical parts. Could be for anything. The atomizer could be for a toy train to make the smoke and the battery could be any type of battery, hell it could be to the atomizer in the toy train. Im hoping and thinking we should be fine ordering small quantities of atomizers and batteries-I believe they should get through customs with no problems at all--the juice well thats a different story....

any thoughts on this???

 

[TropicalBob]

Yes, but ...

Yes, you could probably still import replacement parts, as long as they remain available. But look at what's happening all over the world: Ban after ban after ban, and not one country colored green for "it's legal."

If the mass market dries up -- Australia, Canada, U.S., Mexico, parts of the EU -- then how long can manufacturers keep up parts manufacture? That's the worry, I think. If they throw in the towel on parts (the big bucks are made with the whole, plus carts), we're left to self-maintain a device that regularly fails.

Some can do it, like our clever modders. Most cannot, however. For them, no parts would mean no e-smoking.

 

[Nazdrowie009]

i can mod power and batteries myself, the atomizer is the issue.

What are your thoughts on thinking we will be able to order from china at least for the next year. Assuming the ban happens, do you think availability will dry up in less than a year? I would assume some of the smaller companies, but what about Ruyan and Eastmall?

 

[skullsoup432]

I would say where there's a will, there's a way, but...

We're such a minuscule group that we have no voice, no chance, no way. I say this if a ban were to take effect in the US. The few who are in power and could/would speak up for us would be drown in negative rebuttal.
I hate to be negative, but 20% of Americans smoke and look what is happening to them.

 

[Nick O'Teen]

welcome to the future

 

[shakey ceasefire]

The i-inhale. Or as it is more recently known the Iolite

You can vape eliquid, or anything with this apparently. Even tobacco might be a lot safer with this gadget. I-inhale tag search. I don't have one of these, nor have I ever used one. But if the hardware becomes unavailable, this thing or something like it could suffice.

 

[TropicalBob]

And where will you get e-liquid for your I-inhale? You won't make it at home. There is no economical, legal way to do it.

As I've said before, I'm not interested in no-nic liquid for a pretend puff. I want my nicotine. E-smoking needs to be legal -- regulated and legal. It does not need a ban. If the e-liquid is banned, the whole e-smoking movement loses mass appeal.

 

[Nazdrowie009]

agreed, this e-smoke movement came on pretty strong this time. If the ban goes through, it may be years before we get them back, over time it will lose it's appeal. Probably take forever to get where we are now. All we can do is prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Leave our e-cigs alone!!!!!

 

[Harry Crazington]

And where will you get e-liquid for your I-inhale? You won't make it at home. There is no economical, legal way to do it.

Hi TBob, I thought you were experimenting with different ways of 'brewing' your own ejuice from leaf tobacco to extract nicotine several months ago, were you never able to find an easy way of doing it?

No legal way to do it? So if I buy a carton of cigarettes (taxed), or a pound of RYO (super taxed), & brew the leaf down it'd still be illegal???

 

[TropicalBob]

Extracting nicotine is the problem. DIY'ers who cook tobacco likely get some nicotine, but there's no way to easily ascertain how much. There's a thread now that is pure insanity, about ordering 99% pure nicotine from Poland. Certainly hope anyone entertaining that idea has a lab and hazmat suit. And a will for their heirs.

Besides, no company will deliver that to an individual. The last time a person inquired, Homeland Security investigated them as a terrorist. Seriously. There's just no easy way to make e-liquid with a known quantity of nicotine.

Course, any nicotine is better than none, and I have a refrigerator full of jars with brown liquid in them.

 

[ratfink]

EDIY'ers who cook tobacco likely get some nicotine, but there's no way to easily ascertain how much.

It's easy but not cheap. Have your doctor send a sample to the lab for a nicotine/metabolites concentration test. You need at least 3ml of liquid and CPT code is 83887.

 

[b00stzx3]

I know this probably is less than legal, but whats stopping them from labeling as something else? How about make a "pen tip" to screw in, so they could pass as ink pens? Or just start selling pen styles as pens? I guess maybe Customs would eventually catch on and flag the shipper though.

 

[cclisamona]

i am sooooooooo new at this.. so please be patient with me.... If it is going to be banned.. how come i just ordered some from smokey treats right out of california???? I never used the liquid before... just got my ecig two weeks ago and spending lots and lots of money on the cartridges.... but i just ordered it this morning... right from california?????????????? please enlighten me........ lol

 

[leaford]

We are all a little afraid it may get banned, but it hasn't happened yet, so don't worry, your order is OK.

 

[strell]

I just put in a new order from e-cigarette-mart which is in Shenzhen, China. Here's to hoping it makes it all the way to my house...

 

[OldBiker]

Hi all, Last week I ordered some carts, eliquid and atomizers from China. They made it to my house in 7 days without any problems. I also ordered some other things from US suppliers, these also made it with no problems. So, ecig supplies are still getting through. If enough people want ANYTHING someone somewhere will sell it to them, look at the US war on drugs. While I would hate to become a criminal just to smoke my ecig there is a chance I might. Unfortunately a lot of people would probably just switch back to analogs as I suspect a lot of people are doing already because of negative publicity.

Just my 2 cents

 

[shakey ceasefire]

Course, any nicotine is better than none, and I have a refrigerator full of jars with brown liquid in them.

This is pretty much what I'm thinking. If there's a ban, soak some snus or pipe tobacco and add it to PG w/ other flavors if necessary. I can test for general (though not specific) nic content in the morning (he he).

Apparently you can use eliquid in the i-inhale. Anyway, I'm not too worried about the hardware. An ecig is basically just a tiny fog machine. You could sell them as air fresheners.

 

[Stike]

I don't think were as big as we think.We have this forum and world wide members.How many members?We have all these people getting a web and ordering kits trying to make money becoming suppliers.I don't think were that big.In the big picture are we really that big.I love vaping but honestly do you think we are that important.I might be wrong but I don,t think we are.

 

[OldBiker]

Stike:
The squeaky wheel gets the grease! So, Start squeakin folks! Certainly can't hurt.

 

[TropicalBob]

Stike, you're right. We're a tiny subculture among nicotine addicts. There are probably more pipe and cigar smokers. In fact, I'm sure of it since I've never in the past year encountered even one e-smoker.

We're an annoying flea, but a threat to Big Tobacco, Big Pharma, Big Government and Big Health. So don't be surprised if one or more of them stomp the troublesome flea.

But you're right. We ain't no big deal. Thousands of users mean little in a country with 45 million cigarette smokers. Tally up the memberships of the American Cancer Society, American Lung Association, American Heart Association and Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids and they probably even outnumber us!