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hello. I always read postings on various forums (inc. this one, I think) when people say that you cannot get an organic ejuice. I don't understand this.
If the vegetation where the vegetable glycerin and nicotine comes from is organic, and the produce used to extract the flavours from is organic.
Surely the final product is also organic.
Right? :?:
 
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hello. I always read postings on various forums (inc. this one, I think) when people say that you cannot get an organic ejuice. I don't understand this.
If the vegetation where the vegetable glycerin and nicotine comes from is organic, and the produce used to extract the flavours from is organic.
Surely the final product is also organic.
Right? :?:

Thats just to logical...... too simple there has to be something evil and sneaky about that.

Lets see what the "organic" experts come in with :evil:
 

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Thats just to logical...... too simple there has to be something evil and sneaky about that.

Lets see what the "organic" experts come in with :evil:

Lol. Yeah I read a few posts where ppl thought it was outright lying, some who said lipids in natural flavours or something.

I've got 100% organic glycerin and I've got my organic vanilla pods in some vg steeping for some concentrate.
I don't think my nicotine is organic though. I'll have to check.
But surely the vanilla extract will be ok?
 
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I stand (or rather sit) corrected. :blush:

Hey no problem. Theres always something new coming out. I only knew this cause I saw anothers post.

But honestly , for something to be certified organic doesnt mean its safe.

There are only 4 fertilizers that are allowed in "organic produce" and believe me, you BETTER wash those , cause the fertilizers are organic , but VERY TOXIC.
 

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Yeah, while I'm waiting for my juice I don't really care for this horribly derived artificial flavours (nasty stories, involving beavers :eek:)

So I was buying a bit from 'kind ejuice'
They say this...

Pure Nicotine Source
A lot of vaping nicotine today is produced from crops grown overseas under unknown conditions and extracted using high heat and strong chemical solvents like kerosene/hexane resulting in an inferior end product.

Cold Purified Extracted Nicotine

The nicotine we source comes from domestically grown and harvested USA tobacco crops. These crops are ethically grown and raised by the tobacco farmer without the use of pesticides, growth control agents and or herbicides resulting in a very pure and natural tobacco. The leaves are then harvested and prepared for the nicotine extraction process.

The botanical matter is then put through a process called Supercritical Fluid Extraction or (SFE). This extraction process is completely free of chemicals/solvents and uses a Cold/Closed refinement technology to shield from heat, light, and oxygen. The result is an ultra pure, diacetyl free, clear nicotine that produces a much smoother, clean flavor. These nicotine products have extended shelf life due to the absence of destabilizing impurities while providing a consistently rich full-flavor profile.

Edit: I suppose the question of 'really?' can be put forward though
I guess it's a case of trusting suppliers. If you dare!
 
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Yeah, while I'm waiting for my juice I don't really care for this horribly derived artificial flavours (nasty stories, involving beavers :eek:)

So I was buying a bit from 'kind ejuice'
They say this...

Pure Nicotine Source
A lot of vaping nicotine today is produced from crops grown overseas under unknown conditions and extracted using high heat and strong chemical solvents like kerosene/hexane resulting in an inferior end product.

Cold Purified Extracted Nicotine

The nicotine we source comes from domestically grown and harvested USA tobacco crops. These crops are ethically grown and raised by the tobacco farmer without the use of pesticides, growth control agents and or herbicides resulting in a very pure and natural tobacco. The leaves are then harvested and prepared for the nicotine extraction process.

The botanical matter is then put through a process called Supercritical Fluid Extraction or (SFE). This extraction process is completely free of chemicals/solvents and uses a Cold/Closed refinement technology to shield from heat, light, and oxygen. The result is an ultra pure, diacetyl free, clear nicotine that produces a much smoother, clean flavor. These nicotine products have extended shelf life due to the absence of destabilizing impurities while providing a consistently rich full-flavor profile.

BEAVERS?????
 
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Yeah, while I'm waiting for my juice I don't really care for this horribly derived artificial flavours (nasty stories, involving beavers :eek:)

So I was buying a bit from 'kind ejuice'
They say this...

Pure Nicotine Source
A lot of vaping nicotine today is produced from crops grown overseas under unknown conditions and extracted using high heat and strong chemical solvents like kerosene/hexane resulting in an inferior end product.

Cold Purified Extracted Nicotine

The nicotine we source comes from domestically grown and harvested USA tobacco crops. These crops are ethically grown and raised by the tobacco farmer without the use of pesticides, growth control agents and or herbicides resulting in a very pure and natural tobacco. The leaves are then harvested and prepared for the nicotine extraction process.

The botanical matter is then put through a process called Supercritical Fluid Extraction or (SFE). This extraction process is completely free of chemicals/solvents and uses a Cold/Closed refinement technology to shield from heat, light, and oxygen. The result is an ultra pure, diacetyl free, clear nicotine that produces a much smoother, clean flavor. These nicotine products have extended shelf life due to the absence of destabilizing impurities while providing a consistently rich full-flavor profile.

Edit: I suppose the question of 'really?' can be put forward though
I guess it's a case of trusting suppliers. If you dare!
I don't see the work *organic* on their web site, but check out these flavors. Genuine Flavors

Smaller bottles are on sale here. Lotus Flavors - Browse by Brand - Flavor Concentrates - <p class="shopbydepartment"><span style="font-size: 14px;">Shop by</span><span style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold;">Department</span></p>

I can vouch for the caramel and vanilla. :drool: They are VERY potent and VERY good!
 
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Worry not about our furry friends' nethers. Today, it's a bit of chicken-little-ish urban legend with a vanishingly tiny kernel of truth. See here:

Castoreum Is Produced from Beaver Secretions?

The Vegetarian Resource Group Blog

Thanks for the link but 'exceedingly rare' and 'unlikely'
aren't really cutting the mustard for me.

I have vanilla pods sitting in a jar of vg. This removes any kind of furry friend and/or anus from the equation.
That's a definite chance I can live with.
 
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I don't see the work *organic* on their web site, but check out these flavors. Genuine Flavors

Smaller bottles are on sale here. Lotus Flavors - Browse by Brand - Flavor Concentrates - <p class="shopbydepartment"><span style="font-size: 14px;">Shop by</span><span style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold;">Department</span></p>

I can vouch for the caramel and vanilla. :drool: They are VERY potent and VERY good!

Thanks for the links! Looks great.
Only had a short look and I'm in the UK so I will look in a bit.

But you yourself don't see any health related consequences from vaping organically extracted concentrates and flavourings from flowers/pods/plants/herbs?
 
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hello. I always read postings on various forums (inc. this one, I think) when people say that you cannot get an organic ejuice. I don't understand this.
If the vegetation where the vegetable glycerin and nicotine comes from is organic, and the produce used to extract the flavours from is organic.
Surely the final product is also organic.
Right? :?:
Shenanigans!!!
 

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Thanks for the links! Looks great.
Only had a short look and I'm in the UK so I will look in a bit.

But you yourself don't see any health related consequences from vaping organically extracted concentrates and flavourings from flowers/pods/plants/herbs?
Health related consequences? Since vaping is still relatively new, the jury is still out on that. However, all indications thus far point to no. Or, magnitudes less than that of smoking.
 
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For the majority of people, organic is no different than "gluten fee"........trendy.

If you're just pretentious then yes. Agreed.
Some ppl however do suffer an intolerance but I am not one of them

Extortionately priced 'premium' E liquid should be nothing other than naturally extracted flavourings from good organic conditions.
I dont feel i should have to pay near £10 for 15 mls of crap dug from the dregs of who knows where.
 
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