• This forum has been archived

    If you'd like to post a thread, post it here instead!

    View Forum

Out of ideas - What is next?

Status
Not open for further replies.
This frustration battle is running out of fuel and ideas. I have been battling with Health Canada, Health and Safety, Treasury Board Secretariat since 2014 and nothing, they cannot provide me any information yet I am left going outside beside smokers and labeled as a Smoker. I am looking at other countries that have successfully adapted the “vaping” aspect but as I try to be provided justification to this ongoing battle, nothing I mean nothing, no current update on scientific evidence.

Now because of a communiqué has been officially sent to all public servants mentioning prohibiting me to vapor in public “does not permit the use of e-cigarettes inside office buildings. You are asked to use this product outside.”

Yet I continue to battle but I am not a pro in writing politically correct letters to them… This is going to far…As far my manager harassing me that if I fail to oblige by these rule that it could be considered as insubordination and it could lead to disciplinary measures. (Yet I am not vaping indoors).

This was sent to me and me only, why because I vapor and no one else on my floor and he knows that I actually go outside with “no-vaping” sign around letting vapors know they need to go 9 feet of the building.


  1. Can the vapor be a health danger to public?
  2. Can using non-nicotine electronic cigarette be a health danger to public?
  3. How can a “so call advisory” be applied when no evidence what so ever has been claimed by Health Canada?
  4. Health Canada is miss-leading the public without having any evidence and if so, should these finding be provided to the public?

Questions that they cannot even answer and feel they do not have obligation to answer me.

When did it come to the point that, even when we speak or tell the public, we have no more voice and committees and chairman are pulling tricks that do not exist out of thin air?

Where do we draw the line?

What else can we do…?

As e-cigarettes are a relatively new product and there is little research on the long-term health impact and safety of their use, the Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat has advised federal departments and agencies that the use of e-cigarettes in the workplace is prohibited.
Recently, Health Canada has stated in an advisory that e-cigarettes do not fall under the Non-smokers' Health Act, which regulates smoking tobacco and tobacco products in the federal workplace. This non combustible product falls within the scope of the Food and Drugs Act.”

And I would love to know where they get there information and why isn’t it been release to the general population?



As my employer is mocking me saying "I told you so" around other coworkers, I fell that even complaining will do absolutely nothing.
 

DadEh

Senior Member
Dec 23, 2014
280
145
East of GTA
The only way you're going to get the government to change their tune is to find someone with very, very deep pockets and take them to court. Otherwise, the only thing that can be done is to educate and hope it finally sinks in.

Just a knee jerk grasping thought popped into my mind...
Would a Canadian class action by vapers be appropriate? :)

I'm only adding a little light humor, this is by no means a serious question nor do I wish to stir trouble. We are a good bunch of people and it is our fight to educate the masses in an otherwise ignorant world.
 
Yet I am being categorized as a smoker... How can someone justify the following?

I am vaping outside... I stop puffing vapor, and continue talking with smokers that are not in the 9feet regulation. I am asked to go within the 9ft because I am holding my ITaste MVP...

Harassment much lol I don’t even argue with this guard and look at me with a smile waiting for him to do something… he tells me again to go down with the smokers… I tell him why and replies to me cause your outside… I mean what are people doing?

Laughing is the key for me… People get confused.

I am down to 0 nicotine and soon nicotine free... but rest assure I will continue to fight for this non-sense.
 

retired1

Administrator
Admin
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 5, 2013
51,291
45,978
Texas
Just a knee jerk grasping thought popped into my mind...
Would a Canadian class action by vapers be appropriate? :)

I'm only adding a little light humor, this is by no means a serious question nor do I wish to stir trouble. We are a good bunch of people and it is our fight to educate the masses in an otherwise ignorant world.

You'd have to find a lawyer willing to take the case (and how are ya gonna pay him?), and a judge willing to assign class action status. And while you may find a lawyer who's crazy enough to take it, I highly doubt you'll find a judge that will go down that road. There'd have to be some pretty compelling evidence to warrant a class action status, and there are far too many studies that contradict each other that can be used as arguments on both sides of the fence.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread