OVALE eVic !!! is this the future of vaping???

[tc1]

Firmware is nothing but program instructions for a device that is stored in memory and set up a device to run. Firmware for devices are regularly updated, including phones and cameras and the like.

I'm not really going to argue this. That's just how it is. I've made my living writing software for a long time now and have updated firmware on tons of devices over the decades, though for some devices there's never an update or need for one. With a device like the evic (or any of my dSLRs for example) I would expect the firmware to be easily updated and occasionally so. If it's not, shame on them. There's no reason for it to be a challenge at all though. Typically on a device like a camera (or assumption an evic) there's storage for the original firmware and that will never be overwritten. However, that is not where the executed firmware resides. There's another storage for that, and that is what is updated when a firmware update occurs. Resetting to factory defaults just loads the original firmware (remember it was never overwritten) back to that spot. It's not rocket science and is pretty standard these days. Also, there's no program code on a chip. I'd expect the evic's firmware to be easily updateable and no different from a software patch because on a device like an evic I would be 99.9999% confident (and this is how dslr's work) the firmware is the only software being run.

Agreed with everything until you said there's no code on a chip. That's incorrect. All embedded and binary level data is stored on chips ... and that goes for ALL electronics.

I will guarantee you the eVic has an EPROM which stores all operating code (like every other digital pv). An EPROM is a chip.

I mean, if someone really wanted to ... they could remove the EPROM from their pv ... connect it to an EPROM reader/writer and change the embedded code themselves. So say you had a device which had an amp limit in the software, you could increase that limit beyond what the manufacturer set it to on your own. In fact, many amp limitations ARE in the software. Kinda surprised no one has really started hacking their pvs hardcore honestly.

 

[lrage]

Agreed with everything until you said there's no code on a chip. That's incorrect. All embedded and binary level data is stored on chips ... and that goes for ALL electronics.

Semantics. There's no data stored on a processor which is how I was referring to chip because it's how it was used. It's always stored in memory. Which is different from the instructions which are the processor itself. That memory can be read only for sure. And it can be super fast to be accessed by a CPU. But there's no storage of code on a chip (ie processor in this case) just how it reacts to instructions. The data is always stored in memory of some type. Which will always be physical separate from where the instructions are executed. There's just no such thing as "sometimes it's data sometimes it processes the data".

 

[tc1]

Semantics. There's no data stored on a processor which is how I was referring to chip because it's how it was used. It's always stored in memory. Which is different from the instructions which are the processor itself. That memory can be read only for sure. And it can be super fast to be accessed by a CPU. But there's no storage of code on a chip (ie processor in this case) just how it reacts to instructions. The data is always stored in memory of some type. Which will always be physical separate from where the instructions are executed. There's just no such thing as "sometimes it's data sometimes it processes the data".

Well technically ... CPU's store data as well, it's just volatile memory ... but I understand what you were saying now.

 

[sawlight]

This is no different than in the late '80's when we would send the prom from a carvin to get re-flashed to gain improvments in performance.
I'm really not meaning to dog on this, I really wanted one!

 

[denali_41]

I just jumped in and fired away. it's only 100.00 so no big deal,

really ??? i seen them going for 60-ish shipped

 

[djensen9367]

wish I had seen that deal as I bought 5 and gave 4 to my friends, would have saved me a couple of bucks

 

[tc1]

wish I had seen that deal as I bought 5 and gave 4 to my friends, would have saved ne a couple of bucks

Dang ... that would of saved you some cash. Awesome that you gave 4 away though ... a heavy dose of karma heading your way.

 

[denali_41]

wish I had seen that deal as I bought 5 and gave 4 to my friends, would have saved ne a couple of bucks

DUDE !! co-ops if you are planning to keep up with the newest and greatest mods

 

[tc1]

Yeah, co-ops can get you gear cheap. Just remember that you probably wont get any type of warranty. So if your only saving a little ... you might decide that being able to return the item is worth the little extra. (especially if they are gifts) Some gear goes wayyy cheaper though so it's often worth the risk.

Ahhhwell man ... still cheaper than smoking in the long run. Always hate missing the deals though ...

 

[djensen9367]

I have no patience (sp) and don't like to wait for the shipping on coops, so I appreciate the heads up and I do check the coop section but everything isn't that expensive in this hobby so I just cruise along, bought 5 carto tanks today to try out, 3ml, 5ml and 7ml - looking for the best flavor. if I don't like them will give them to my friends here in Portland. I am semi retired so this gives me something to do with my time. Looking forward to the mail gives me something to do.

 

[sawlight]

I have no patience (sp) and don't like to wait for the shipping on coops, so I appreciate the heads up and I do check the coop section but everything isn't that expensive in this hobby so I just cruise along, bought 5 carto tanks today to try out, 3ml, 5ml and 7ml - looking for the best flavor. if I don't like them will give them to my friends here in Portland. I am semi retired so this gives me something to do with my time. Looking forward to the mail gives me something to do.

Let me know if you need another friend, OK?

 

[denali_41]

if I don't like them will give them to my friends

lose my address

 

[djensen9367]

Not highjacking the thread but I feel I owe an explanation: I don't want to come across as a benevolent or rich person but I am older and so are my friends. I am fortunate enough to have a few bucks, some of my friends don't and we were all hooked on cigs, several people are living on SS and smoking just killed them financially (literally), if I can help them out and get them off cigs it makes their life a lot better for not to much money a month, 5-7 dollars a pack kills the little bit of SS they get. Most are vets like myself and are really good people, but at some point you can't work for health reasons but your bad habits still exist, (cigs are addicting as we all know), I found it so easy to quit a 50+ yr habit through vaping and I am passing it forward. A small investment now makes them more self sufficient til they pass (we all do), I know without the right equipment they will go back to cigs so this is my way of keeping them on the straight and narrow, or at least I hope so. I got lucky and started a small business 20 yrs ago (which I still work 3-4 months out of the year), I myself am drawing SS (gives you an idea how old I am) but still make good money with the business and it helps keep me healthy. That's my story. Back to the Evic info, I will get mine tomorrow and so far the only thing I have read that bothers me is it doesn't do watts automatically like my kick does or the Zmax, but I can live with that and I hope it can be fixed with an upgrade via computer.

 

[poobaca]

without having to search through 48 pages could someone tell me if this has a built in multimeter

 

[X P3 Flight Engineer]

without having to search through 48 pages could someone tell me if this has a built in multimeter

It will read and display the ohms of the attachment.

 

[Titanium]

How do people already have eVics?

 

[djensen9367]

Ovale started shipping Monday

 

[Symmetry]

I'm lucky...I got the last two slots in the co-op. Should have them by mid-January at the latest, or so I hope!

I seriously can't wait. This is looking really promising, especially if a project like Rockbox takes off and people start patching this and other devices (like the Janty MiD) which have replaceable firmware.

 

[Titanium]

Ovale started shipping Monday

Really?
I bought the Joyetech ones.......
Dang it,......

 

[FL0OD]

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