P16 shorting or misfiring

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forcedfuel50

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Thanks David.
The unit wasn't used. I bought it new from Happy Vaper in Canada. It came with two AW ICR123s. It came in an UltraFire charger. I have 2 of the red high drain batteries on order from Happy Vaper. Hopefully that fixes the problem. However, it if doesn't I'll ship it down to you to check out.

I apologize, i missed that it was new. Your first post said you had Ultrafire batteries, but maybe that was a typo (and maybe thats why i thought it was used, as i don't sell them with Ultrafires). Regardless, new or used, the stainless steel Precise has a lifetime warranty

As far as testing batteries, I read that you tried to test them with the bottom button off, but that is not the way i would recommend testing them. Just simply put a positive electrode to the top of the battery and a negative to the bottom of the battery .

If you want to test the batteries in the unit and the atomizer detached, leave the button on and the unit fully assembled and just put the postive electrode to the center post on the top cap and the negative to the outside body and depress the button. I've tested various mods multiple times and get no discernable voltage drop.

To load test with an atomizer, you'll have to make a testing apparatus.

Hope that helps...
 
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forcedfuel50

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More strange issues...
EVERY atomizer that I put onto my P16 lasts for a few hours and then starts shorting out after 1 or 2 seconds. This has happened with LR510s, the HH.357 and two LR306 atties. I've gone through 5 atomizers in two days. I have two 16340s. However, the issue happens with both batteries.

After rereading this, it does not appear there is any short. You would not be able to vape for a few hours if there were a short. If the unit, atomizer or battery were shorting, the unit would become so hot to the touch within a few moments you couldn't even hold it.

I am confused though what you mean by after a few hours of vaping it (which indicates it's not shorting out), it (the atomizer) starts shorting out for "1 or 2" seconds? Maybe we are having a misunderstanding in what you mean by shorting out. What is your definition of shorting out?

Regardless, don't worry, we'll get you taken care of...
 
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GaryS

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Sorry, I dont know a lot about electricity, so I'm mixing up the terms.
The problems I am having are consistant and reproducable. On two 306 and two HH.357 atties, after a short period of time the atties stop working. They trigger for 1 second and then run cold, producing no vapor. On one HH.357, I primed it, vaped for 2 minutes and went to bed. When I woke up, the atty had the above problem of firing for a second or less and then cutting off. I plugged it into an Ego battery and it caught on fire and wouldnt stop firing until I disconnected it from the Ego battery. This exact thing happened again with another ego battery and a 306 after using it on the P16.
So, in a period of a few days, I had blown 4 atties and 2 Ego batteries.
I then tried six 510 LR atties from three different manufacturers. All of them got extremely hot and produce little vapor. Now, I'd blown all of my Ego batteries, but I did have a handfull of small joye batts laying around. So I charged one and connected one of the 510 atties that I'd been using on the P16. Like with the Ego batteries before, it fires and will not stop firing until I disconnect it physically.

At this point Ill hold off using until the new batteries arrive on Monday or Tuesday. Ill let you know what happens with new batteries and a new atty soon.


Gary

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MagnusEunson

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Gary, when you look at the positive terminal post and atty connection area on the P16 or the adapter you use, does it seem unusually raised?

Also, when you use these attys on any device, are you just screwing it on enough to make contact or tightening it? It almost sounds like the gasket the separators the positive/negative within the atty is being over compressed or the center post being damaged. As dspin mentions earlier in the thread.

Sometimes a mod will have a connector that causes this problem and usually once the atty is damaged in that way it either only works on that mod or is completely worthless afterward. -Magnus
 

forcedfuel50

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I believe Magnus hit it on the head.

After reading your explanation, there is little doubt in my mind that your atomizers are shorting out and the only real way for this to happen on so many different atomzers is by the atomizers center post getting pushed up and shorting out with the atomizer body. They may not appear pushed up in there, but it's the sure bet as to why they are shorting. Some use a pin or clip to periodically pull them back down, if they aren't ruined already.
 
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vapn

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Here is that pic you were referring to David..... The only good one in this shot is the one in front.... All the others will cause this issue.

510s_damaged_02.jpg
 
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