painful/bleeding gums.

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LynxMistiq

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Ok, so just about everyone says the bleeding is from increased circulation, but is it possible that high nicotine levels, artificial sweeteners, certain ingredients, or as someone mentioned earlier, PG content level could actually be the issue?

I haven't smoked cigarettes in at least 6 years and was using Nicorette gum for about 4 of those years before I started using Blu. I used Blu for a little over a year before switching to a pen with tanks, now to APV mods with tanks. My gums never bled when I was using Nicorette gum, Blu, or even my first pen. Although, something did happen while I was using the pen and I think…scratch that… I know it had something to do with the liquid I was vaping and what was in it. My nose and the back of my nasal area (right before the nasal cavity connects to the throat) started bleeding a lot and I would spit out blood and what looked like bloody scabs (not just dried blood). Also, when I puffed on that liquid, I felt like it was burning that area of my throat/nasal cavity. As soon as I stopped vaping that liquid, the problem disappeared. Now I'm using VV/VW mods and trying out other liquids and my gums are starting to bleed. I had/have no problems at all when I vape certain liquids, which leads me to believe that there's more to the bleeding than just improved circulation. My gums are only bleeding in one spot. I'm trying to switch up which parts of my mouth I inhale from, because I've noticed that where I've mainly been placing my PV to my mouth to inhale is the same spot where my gums have been bleeding. Hopefully switching the placement around will prevent an accumulation of the concentration in one area. Considering the fact that I haven't actually smoked cigarettes in quite a while (over 6 years), I don't think increased circulation is what's causing the bleeding in my case, but I'm going to try to find some objective (and impartial) info on this, if possible.
 
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LynxMistiq

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Have you noticed a pattern in the types of liquids that seem to be causing this? Brands, content, flavors, et al.?

Well, almost everything I Vape has some form of vanilla in it, but the VG:pG ratio are different on some of them and I do believe that a couple of them use artificial sweeteners, but I'm not quite sure. The one that made my nasal area bleed was higher PG content than VG and I think this one used a bit of artificial sweetener in the mix. I've tried to stay away from any artificial sweeteners and I also try to use blends with a higher VG content. That has generally been helping and I haven't had any of the nasal bleeding since I got away from that one liquid. As far as the bleeding gums goes, I'm still unsure of the cause, but I'll definitely post something if I discover anything that hasn't been mentioned already. Oh, it could also be what they are stored in (plastic vs. glass). Some plastics will degrade with certain chemicals and that plastic will actually wind up becoming part of the liquid. That is one major difference I've noticed as well as the liquids having any alcohol to produce them (alcohol will degrade some plastics as well, especially when mixed with certain chemicals). When I say chemicals, I mean everything is composed of chemicals, even we are. I'm not talking about household cleaners.
I use and study essential oils (completely natural substances, which all have a chemical make-up). I keep all of my oils in either amber or cobalt glass bottles. I never put them into plastic, because some of them will actually melt the plastic and the plastic will mix with the oils (I've seen this happen a lot), ultimately changing and destroying the oils. I know essential oils aren't generally used in this type of thing (sometimes they are), but it just shows how unstable plastic can be for storing certain liquids.
 
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