I am one of the ones that have had this happen, I switched over about two weeks ago and my gums bleed. Thanks for the explanation really helped.
Are your gums bleeding more now that you have stopped smoking cigarettes?
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Welcome doc !
My dentist in Mexico is the one who got me started on vaping, after the extraction of two molars ...
He added years to my life, so I always tell him he now has a longer-term patient ...
This week I finally get my titanium implants, and a couple of months from now, the abutments and crowns ...
Any thoughts on vaping and implant maintenance ?
Need dentist that scale plaque below gum line during routine cleanings but they are a dying breed. Now many routine cleanings do little to remove any plaque growth below gum line. Then cha ching you need a deep clean.
Best lazy dentist clean is the soda blast. It cleans slightly below gum line by default. Surprise, surprise it isn't that popular despite it's effectiveness.
Ok...focus.....positive thoughts....uhmmmmmmmmm...uhmmmmm...
Best lazy dentist clean is the soda blast. It cleans slightly below gum line by default. Surprise, surprise it isn't that popular despite it's effectiveness.
Ok...focus.....positive thoughts....uhmmmmmmmmm...uhmmmmm...
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Thank you for this doc. I stopped smoking on Jan 21st and I did notice my gums bleed a lot more specially last night and this morning.
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Thank you for this doc. I stopped smoking on Jan 21st and I did notice my gums bleed a lot more specially last night and this morning.
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Hello all,
I have been provoked into joining and posting after spending the last few months considering nicotine and gum disease. I'll explain:
I have periodontal disease (maybe I caught it from some nasty woman – yes you can indeed 'catch' it). When my dentist told me I had this disease and gave me the rotating x-ray I was quite depressed about it; I've never had a single filling you see, and it just didn't seem fair to me. It was blamed on smoking, well at least its progression if you see what I mean.
So the dentist packed my off to see a periodontist (a posh one that teaches other periodontists) and he began treatment. During one of my visits he asked me how the non-smoking was going. I told him that I was back on the nicotine mouth spray; basically I was so worried about the nicotine reducing the blood flow, I had stopped it too quickly, blown it and gone back on the cigs, then stopped again to go back on the NRT ect... It was then that this periodontist recommended that I buy an e-cigarette! He said it had helped all sorts of his patients stop the fags. I did that thing and haven't smoked an analogue since.
But I've still been very worried about the nicotine. Even when I vape with my Greensmoke I'm scared to death about my teeth dropping out due to my killing the circulation in my gums. Yes I always knew it was better than smoking, but I was still cutting the supply I thought.
After looking around the net, I started to see these posts and articles about bleeding gums when switching to vaping; something is not right here: If you are still ingesting nicotine why would you be seeing the increased blood flow to the gums? You might argue that it's because you're getting less nicotine than you would whilst smoking, but I'd expect it to be more nicotine from my experiences. Could it be that nicotine is only one of the factors, and that hot smoke and a circulatory system full of carbon monoxide contributed...most likely.
I was planning to use a e-cig as an aid to cessation, but now I'm not sure. I'm not sure if I should be worried still, or that now my gums are a nice bright pink, and the disease has been stopped in its tracks (gums even growing back) I should just enjoy the vaping. I've even seen scholarly papers saying that nicotine does not reduce the blood flow in the gums!?
I shall continue to stress about it and comb the internet I guess. Perhaps in a few years e-cigs and gum circulation will be better documented and understood.
I have been provoked into joining and posting after spending the last few months considering nicotine and gum disease. I'll explain:
I have periodontal disease (maybe I caught it from some nasty woman – yes you can indeed 'catch' it). When my dentist told me I had this disease and gave me the rotating x-ray I was quite depressed about it; I've never had a single filling you see, and it just didn't seem fair to me. It was blamed on smoking, well at least its progression if you see what I mean.
So the dentist packed my off to see a periodontist (a posh one that teaches other periodontists) and he began treatment. During one of my visits he asked me how the non-smoking was going. I told him that I was back on the nicotine mouth spray; basically I was so worried about the nicotine reducing the blood flow, I had stopped it too quickly, blown it and gone back on the cigs, then stopped again to go back on the NRT ect... It was then that this periodontist recommended that I buy an e-cigarette! He said it had helped all sorts of his patients stop the fags. I did that thing and haven't smoked an analogue since.
But I've still been very worried about the nicotine. Even when I vape with my Greensmoke I'm scared to death about my teeth dropping out due to my killing the circulation in my gums. Yes I always knew it was better than smoking, but I was still cutting the supply I thought.
After looking around the net, I started to see these posts and articles about bleeding gums when switching to vaping; something is not right here: If you are still ingesting nicotine why would you be seeing the increased blood flow to the gums? You might argue that it's because you're getting less nicotine than you would whilst smoking, but I'd expect it to be more nicotine from my experiences. Could it be that nicotine is only one of the factors, and that hot smoke and a circulatory system full of carbon monoxide contributed...most likely.
I was planning to use a e-cig as an aid to cessation, but now I'm not sure. I'm not sure if I should be worried still, or that now my gums are a nice bright pink, and the disease has been stopped in its tracks (gums even growing back) I should just enjoy the vaping. I've even seen scholarly papers saying that nicotine does not reduce the blood flow in the gums!?
I shall continue to stress about it and comb the internet I guess. Perhaps in a few years e-cigs and gum circulation will be better documented and understood.
Please do so and let us know what you find and provide appropriate links. In all honesty this is a new one to me. I've heard of it creating dehydration issues which is easily fixed by drinking more water but never have heard the bleeding gum issue. I've been on this forum for 6 months almost daily now and don't recall it coming up...so it's probably not too common? I could be wrong though?
That's odd. To be clear about this, it's actually, quite perversely, a good thing that a persons gums bleed when they quit tobacco smoking and change to vaping. It means that the circulation in their gums has improved, and shown them they have a problem they would not have known about otherwise.
I know nothing about mixes, buy my first guess here would be heat. Perhaps the mix where the bleeding stops is hotter and spoiling that nice circulation.
Your mate should see a dentist though buddy; if you catch these things early it's usually just cleaning you'll need. If you mask the issue with years of smoking hiding the bleeding (like I did, see above post) it can lead to bigger problems.
I do not know if you are a dentist or not, I am a neural surgeon myself as well as a rocket scientist when the mood strikes me.
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At any rate, welcome to the forum!
For years my dentists have told me that smoking and dipping are killing my gums, receding gums cause bone loss, etc., etc. It was interesting that at the same time it was killing my gums several dentists said that other than the staining tobacco use causes no other damage to the tooth itself. In fact they seemed to indicate that tobacco killed the organisms that broke down tooth enamel.
The gum irritation has seemed to lessen since I made the 100% switch to vaping. Unfortunately the bone loss cannot be fixed by vaping. So the teeth keep getting looser. v0v
You join the Army to be all you can be, you join the Internet to be all you ever wanted to be.
At any rate, welcome to the forum!
For years my dentists have told me that smoking and dipping are killing my gums, receding gums cause bone loss, etc., etc. It was interesting that at the same time it was killing my gums several dentists said that other than the staining tobacco use causes no other damage to the tooth itself. In fact they seemed to indicate that tobacco killed the organisms that broke down tooth enamel.
The gum irritation has seemed to lessen since I made the 100% switch to vaping. Unfortunately the bone loss cannot be fixed by vaping. So the teeth keep getting looser. v0v
I found an article that some may like to read. It seems that there is evidence suggesting that it's not the nicotine that constricts the blood vessels in the gums but rather the heat and chemical brew of the analogues. This may help explain the apparent paradox of bleeding gums when you're still ingesting nicotine.
The role of nicotine in bleeding - Registered Dental Hygienist
Like I said in an earlier post, the bleeding is good as it means your circulation has improved, but I would still suggest going to a dentist or hygienist in case there is an underlying problem.
The role of nicotine in bleeding - Registered Dental Hygienist
Like I said in an earlier post, the bleeding is good as it means your circulation has improved, but I would still suggest going to a dentist or hygienist in case there is an underlying problem.
If anyone's interested, Peroxyl is the best "non" alcoholic mouthwash for gum treatment. Both my hygienist and dentist told me so.
DOC, tell him to kiss you where the sun don't shine, only problem I've had with vaping is dry mouth, but also on meds for heart problems, but using less pg in juice seams to make it better, keep up with the good work,denns,j
Good. Maybe my dentures will fit now. If only my hemorrhoids would crawl away and die.
If anyone's interested, Peroxyl is the best "non" alcoholic mouthwash for gum treatment. Both my hygienist and dentist told me so.
Mine like that stuff too, but told me to alternate with Colgate Pro-Gum-Health non-alco' mouthwash as well as using the Pro-Gum-Health tooth paste.
If anyone's interested, Peroxyl is the best "non" alcoholic mouthwash for gum treatment. Both my hygienist and dentist told me so.
I'm not buying it.
Likely need mechanical or abrasive action to remove plaque and tartar.
I bought into those miracle tooth pastes and mouth washes only to be disappointed the next cleaning.
I brush and mouth wash more than any person I've ever met.
You can self test plaque buildup near gum line w/ floss, stimudent, and scaler. As you lightly stroke one of those devices across tooth surface it should glide. If you hit a rough sand paper like area you need to mechanically remove the plaque. If the plaque is left unchecked it can go below gum line and can cause bleeding.
YMMV.
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