Are your gums bleeding more now that you have stopped smoking cigarettes?
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Smoking may well affect circulation to tissues and contribute to gum disease. I recall my own dentist telling me I needed to stop smoking because of gum issues that I had. No quarrel here on that. As vapers, we're also aware that smoking damages our taste buds on our tongues, something we call "vaper's tongue".
You failed to mention though that nicotine is still a vaso constrictor. Seems like it could still have a negative effect on gums and bone. Spine and orthopaedic surgeons will refuse to do elective bone surgeries unless their patients stop smoking/using nicotine replacements prior to having these surgical procedures because nicotine slows or inhibits bone growth and healing. Plastic/reconstructive surgeons have the same restrictions for their specialty. I used to work in surgery, so I was privy to this information. Participating in surgical procedures, it was quite easy to determine by the appearance of a patient's tissues and how much normal bleeding was encountered if they were smokers or not.
You failed to mention though that nicotine is still a vaso constrictor. Seems like it could still have a negative effect on gums and bone. Spine and orthopaedic surgeons will refuse to do elective bone surgeries unless their patients stop smoking/using nicotine replacements prior to having these surgical procedures because nicotine slows or inhibits bone growth and healing. Plastic/reconstructive surgeons have the same restrictions for their specialty. I used to work in surgery, so I was privy to this information. Participating in surgical procedures, it was quite easy to determine by the appearance of a patient's tissues and how much normal bleeding was encountered if they were smokers or not.
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First, welcome. Second, and I can't believe no one said it, maybe yzer is scared of the dentist?
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Crap, nothing like people finding out about your deepest, darkest secrets while you are laid out stone cold and filleted. So unfair.
But yeah, I did the bloody gums for a while after quitting. A bit unnerving.
Could well be, and you can add me to that list - my emblem when it comes to dentists is a cringing chicken
Still won't bad mouth the OP tho, yzer has me scratching my head too.
Used to get periodic bleeding when brushing too much while I smoked, haven't noticed anything since - except my gums are coming back to life and my teeth are actually getting white and feeling cleaner. That's a positive.
Hey Doc, welcome aboard!! I didn't have any bleeding after smoking cessation, but my teeth did hurt for a couple of days around Week 2. I have a bridge on each side of my uppers and it felt like they were expanding or contracting in there. I was on the verge of going in to the dentista when it went away. Things are feeling great in there now, toothwise. Now my tongue, that's another story, feels like it's on fire a lot of the time, chapped lips too. I brush and rinse with mouthwash 3-4 times a day and drink a couple of quarts of water a day and no coffee, tea or sodas. I'm not a heavy vaper unless I'm sitting reading this forum and then it's "Cloud On"!!!
I experience bleeding gums after i went vaping full time in the beginning. Went off 1-2 months later.
Personally I hate dentists, goes way back to the 60's when I told the dentist that the Novocain wasn't working, he blew it off as just being a scared kid, and wouldn't listen to my complaint that it was hurting. Turns out that I have a high tolerance to drugs, and have been known to come to during surgeries. So as a kid going to the dentist always meant going to the torcher chamber for a dose of great pain. Tis why I always have nitrous when visiting the dentist or dental hygienist.
But as a vaper, I like Doc and glad to see him in the world of vape.
But as a vaper, I like Doc and glad to see him in the world of vape.
yup-had increase in gum bleeding when stopped smoking, but it's gone away now-I knew this from others posting same thing here that it was nothing to be alarmed about/pretty normal at first(unless it continued of course), but thanks for taking the time to inform others/new members -good advice and reasons why it happens. glad to see a dr. who likes e-cigs
Dentist told me that tooth decay is amplified by smoking because it increases the build up of plaque and tartar on teeth. Bacteria then settles in the plaque area. Told me both plaque and bacteria cause the gums to separate from the teeth. Gums will also begin to recede exposing the bone- this is when the real damage occurs as the toxins from smoking also kill the "bone making" cells. Lots of other damage also occurring in the mouth due to the chems and tar from smoking.
In regards to bleeding gums I was warned about this and was told it was a sign that my gums were regenerating/ healing.
Nicotine is a double edged sword. It does constrict blood flow but recent studies have also shown Nicotine promotes new blood vessel growth.
In regards to bleeding gums I was warned about this and was told it was a sign that my gums were regenerating/ healing.
Nicotine is a double edged sword. It does constrict blood flow but recent studies have also shown Nicotine promotes new blood vessel growth.
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I am a dental assistant of 5 years and the Dr. is right about Biotene, it's a great product for dry mouth. Another one, which you have to purchase directly from your dentist, is called MI paste. It makes you salivate more. Which reminds me, I have some in my cabinet I need to use Although I'm constantly drinking water this dry mouth is KILLING ME!
Although I'm constantly drinking water this dry mouth is KILLING ME! I experienced the bleeding gums after I quit smoking. I think the attack on Docs was brought on by someone not reading the OPs post in its entirety and thinking that it was an attack on Vapers. I really thought that the moderators would have deleted the attackers post,as nonsense like that will run people away from this site. Thank you Docs for your insights,as I did think I was having a problem. It has passed and my teeth and gums are much healthier. My own dentist had recommended that I quit smoking. I'm now 3 years strong. Welcome Docs!
Welcome to ECF Doc! I like to hear from the professional side on just about everything. I have had issues with my gums bleeding slightly and was wondering why. Maybe that is the issue. I appreciate the insight and apologize for the hostility. Not all here are like that and I have found that most are more than willing to help and have courtesy for others. Once again, welcome!
I do remember my gums bleeding a little more for a few weeks when I quit smoking.
That being said:
When I smoked, I had periodontal disease. Every cleaning quickly escalated into scaling, which can be extremely painful, if you are immune to -caine family of anesthetics like I am. My dentist was suggesting a surgery (which was not covered by my insurance).
After about half a year of vaping, my gums don't bleed at all when brushing, and my dentist is freaking out because my periodontal disease started going away. After year and a half, I have not had to have any scalings (regular cleanings suffice), and he is no longer recommeding a surgery.
So yay! Now I can spend that money on shiny shiny mods
That being said:
When I smoked, I had periodontal disease. Every cleaning quickly escalated into scaling, which can be extremely painful, if you are immune to -caine family of anesthetics like I am. My dentist was suggesting a surgery (which was not covered by my insurance).
After about half a year of vaping, my gums don't bleed at all when brushing, and my dentist is freaking out because my periodontal disease started going away. After year and a half, I have not had to have any scalings (regular cleanings suffice), and he is no longer recommeding a surgery.
So yay! Now I can spend that money on shiny shiny mods
Welcome to the Forum! I did experience some gum bleeding which I attributed to brushing more often, I notice my mouth tasting bad quicker so therefore am more likely to brush often. Good to know there is another reason as well.
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I noticed bleeding today - not something I'd noticed prior (been vaping a little over two month) My last trip to the dentist was for one wisdom tooth extraction, and another wisdom tooth to be filled. Dentist drilled out the wisdom tooth to be filled and decided after it would be better to extract....safe to say it wasn't a straight forward extraction for her after that. I'm still fairly sure her arms still hurt from that particular encounter (I'll never forget it, that's for sure!) My fear of dentists rose about 100% after that ha-ha. I was lectured about smoking and receding gums etc etc when I was there.
I'm not too alarmed, figured the increased blood flow might account for it and chalked it down to that. It wasn't a bad bleed, but it was significant to notice, if you know what I mean. I'm due a checkup in a month or so, I'll mention it when I'm there to get it checked. I am also brushing more often as my taste improves, natural I guess
Welcome to the forums, always nice to have a friendly on hand expert
I'm not too alarmed, figured the increased blood flow might account for it and chalked it down to that. It wasn't a bad bleed, but it was significant to notice, if you know what I mean. I'm due a checkup in a month or so, I'll mention it when I'm there to get it checked. I am also brushing more often as my taste improves, natural I guess
Welcome to the forums, always nice to have a friendly on hand expert
A lot of this may be due to dry mouth issues? PG will dehydrate you and many vapors always suggest drinking more water when switching from cigs to ecigs. I've had 1 kankersore in the past 6 months...is this due to quitting smoking...due to vaping...due to PG...I don't know. I can just tell you that my dentist says my teeth are whiter since switching
Complete side note other than it is dentist related...I was using my vamo and had a metal drip tip on the top when driving. I had to slam on my breaks and the metal drip tip chipped my front right tooth. I'd say about 3% of that tooth got chipped off in the lower left hand corner of my front top right tooth. So that may be a dentistry warning when advising ecigs. I discussed with dentist but at this point I feel it's barely noticeable or worth the cost of fixing for cosmetic reasons only.
Complete side note other than it is dentist related...I was using my vamo and had a metal drip tip on the top when driving. I had to slam on my breaks and the metal drip tip chipped my front right tooth. I'd say about 3% of that tooth got chipped off in the lower left hand corner of my front top right tooth. So that may be a dentistry warning when advising ecigs
. I discussed with dentist but at this point I feel it's barely noticeable or worth the cost of fixing for cosmetic reasons only.- Status
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