Panzer Clone

[Haylon357]

I bought a Panzer Blackhawk Hellfire mech about 6 months ago. Used it a couple of times and put them away. Got it out the other day to find that the top cap where the atty screws in is stuck. I have tried the freezer method. But it just won't budge. It's a copper mod with a nice black coating. So I'm wanting to avoid using tools. Any suggestions?

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[Johntodd]

Pliers with a washcloth covering the grips. Lets you apply the right pressure without scratching the finish.

 

[RuDawg7890]

I'd try a small rubber strap wrench.

 

[t01ga]

You can also try a silicone vape band. They have pretty good grips

 

[Bad Ninja]

Rubber gloves

 

[Eric Auer]

I have used rubber pads that are meant for opening jars and such.

Eric

 

[Eric Auer]

Also, many metals including copper can fuse themselves shut over time, I would not store them for a longer time connected.

Just keep them separated for storage.

Eric

 

[Haylon357]

I would like to thank everyone for their advice. I bought some rubber grip pads and put the top cap in the freezer for an hour this morning. I put 1 of the rubber grip pads on the kitchen table and popped the top cap a couple good time. Gave it a twist and BOOYA! All is well in my world now. Things like that bother me to no end.

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[Haylon357]

Stupid question incoming. What can I put on the threads to help prevent something like this from happening again? Or is that ill advised? It's usually the lock ring that seizes up from time to time.


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[rhelton]

Stupid question incoming. What can I put on the threads to help prevent something like this from happening again? Or is that ill advised? It's usually the lock ring that seizes up from time to time.


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They make anti seize compound. Its messy and really only for industrial or automotive applications. If your mindful not to set it full in either direction it will not seize on you. Also as your threads break in this will happen less often. A friend has the panzer with a spring I took it apart and stretched the spring to the max and he could set it down and it will not auto-fire with a atty attached. His in the unlock position the button protrudes a tiny bit. I do not know if this is normal for all of them, but expanding the spring helped.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Don't use automotive anti sieze.
It insulates.

Use a thin film ofDielectric grease or NoAlOx.
Made for electrical use and metal to metal connection.
$3 at Home Depot or Lowe's.

 

[Eric Auer]

They make anti seize compound. Its messy and really only for industrial or automotive applications. If your mindful not to set it full in either direction it will not seize on you. Also as your threads break in this will happen less often. A friend has the panzer with a spring I took it apart and stretched the spring to the max and he could set it down and it will not auto-fire with a atty attached. His in the unlock position the button protrudes a tiny bit. I do not know if this is normal for all of them, but expanding the spring helped.

Personally I would never trust a spring to take the weight of a mod and atty.

Better to get in to the habit of locking the switch the way it was designed to be done.

It becomes almost automatic after a while, but I still pay serious attention to it everytime I put the mod down.

Eric

 

[Bad Ninja]

....he could set it down and it will not auto-fire with a atty attached. His in the unlock position the button protrudes a tiny bit.

That wouldn't be an "autofire".
That's just user error.

Protruding buttons don't matter if the lock works.
It should prevent the button from making contact.

 

[rhelton]

That wouldn't be an "autofire".
That's just user error.

Protruding buttons don't matter if the lock works.
It should prevent the button from making contact.

You missed my point. I expanded the spring so he could set it down without locking it and it will not autofire. Who wants to lock a mod every time you set it down, I know I do not.

 

[Bad Ninja]

You missed my point. I expanded the spring so he could set it down without locking it and it will not autofire. Who wants to lock a mod every time you set it down, I know I do not.

Well, your an adult so you take your own risks.

I was commenting on your misuse of the term "autofire".

I'm the type of person that uses my gear as intended. There's a reason or has a lock.
Also, springs weaken over time.

If you don't want to lock a mod, why not get one with a recessed button?

 

[rhelton]

Well, your an adult so you take your own risks.

I was commenting on your misuse of the term "autofire".

I'm the type of person that uses my gear as intended. There's a reason or has a lock.
Also, springs weaken over time.

If you don't want to lock a mod, why not get one with a recessed button?

? good question I guess. I have a authentic Nemesis with magnets in the button thats never been locked. Dont need to it will not fire even under the weight of the heaviest tanks. But thats just me I never lock anything.

 

[Hitcat44]

I had a Shenxi Hellfire Panzer. Helluva Mod. Should have kept it. It did the same thing when I "cranked" the Lock Ring Down. It's an inverse thread design and easy to overtighten when engaging the Lock. Just don't crank it and it will Lock Out the Recessed Button fine without "fusing" the two Copper sections.
The only bad thing about a Copper Mod (IMO). The malleability makes it "fuse" easily.
Don't sweat it. Fantastic Mod. Just don't eat too much spinach when locking

 

[sig-cmt]

What can I put on the threads to help prevent something like this from happening again?

As a flashlight modder, the standard for lubricating coarse threads is Nyogel 779ZC.

 

[VHRB2014]

Here`s some real good 411 of conductive grease`s and how they should be used.
Dielectric Grease vs Conductive Grease

 

[MattyTny]

If you clean your equipment really well and keep the threads nice and polished you shouldn't have too much of an issue with threads becoming difficult to loosen. I recommend polish cloths for threads, it makes a big difference.

Clean parts with hot water and dish soap, tooth brush if you want to on the threading. Dry the parts and go over threads and contacts with a polish cloth. Then some iso alcohol over the parts you polished. I've done that with all my mechanicals and everything is very smooth.