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Deschain

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To be honest, I think we are at (or have passed) peak everything...most of the things we mine from the earth are in decline or deeper and harder to get at, while our population and demand for said things is on the increase.

I'm a great believer that low, sustainable populations equal a better world.

How we get those low populations is the problem, we can't just go and cull 4 or 5 billion folks.


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To be honest, I think we are at (or have passed) peak everything...most of the things we mine from the earth are in decline or deeper and harder to get at, while our population and demand for said things is on the increase.

I'm a great believer that low, sustainable populations equal a better world.

How we get those low populations is the problem, we can't just go and cull 4 or 5 billion folks.


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I wonder if the feds are thinking the same thing. I wonder if that isn't the real reason they want e-cigs banned. Thinning the herd so to speak.
 

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Desperation sparks innovation though. As the demand for production and transformation increase and the current means of powering such things decreases, the necessity to use alternate means increases and it becomes economically feasible to focus money on research for these alternate energy resources.

That's really where the heart of it all is. We rely on non-renewable resources, not because there are not alternates, but because the necessary funds haven't been funneled to those research outlets to further develop these alternates. Once those non-renewable resources are too expensive to continue exploiting, well then I'm sure we'll see new means. The same goes with every industry really, not just fuel. As we consume the resources that aren't renewable, it'll become increasingly important for industry to start using renewable/recyclable materials.

Whether or not they will do so enough to match the size of the global populations imprint on this planet, who knows.
 

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There are alternatives to oil, plus we are creating more oil as we speak. Oil is nothing more than the leftovers of organic materials.

What do you think is going to happen to all those bodies we have been studiously burying for centuries? :)

There are other forms of organic fuels that are currently being developed. The only way the world will slip into chaos when oil runs out is if the population allows themself to be led by the nose
 

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Anyone familiar with this concept? Very scary stuff. if it can be debunked I'd like to see it.

Yes.

It's pretty passe at this point. Here's the reality: we'll never run out of oil. What will happen is that the ever depleting reserves will result in higher and higher oil costs. You want to drive your classic Detroit iron around? A generation from now you should expect to pay 10 - 20 dollars a gallon.

Meanwhile, new energy sources will replace oil, long before it's all gone (which it never will be because it'll become unaffordable long before the last drop is pumped.) This is already happening. Hydrogen fuel cells, biodiesel, wind, solar... the list goes on and on. Oil will be a vanity product a lot sooner than most people think.
 

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What do you think is going to happen to all those bodies we have been studiously burying for centuries? :)

There's a big grain of truth there. Oil actually is a renewable resource. The problem is that it takes millions of years to renew. The chances are good that the human race will be long gone by the time that today's organic material becomes oil.
 

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I wonder if the feds are thinking the same thing. I wonder if that isn't the real reason they want e-cigs banned. Thinning the herd so to speak.

If they wanted us all to die, why would they be trying to get healthcare for all? Why wouldn't they just have us die? *tongue in cheek* Read the thread on Pelosicare. It can't be both ways.
 
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