FDA Peering Through The Mist: Techincal Report by Drexel University

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haha only 22 pages

i read the first couple of pages then just skipped to the best part

Key Conclusions:
 Even when compared to workplace standards for involuntary exposures, and using several conservative (erring
on the side of caution) assumptions, the exposures from using e-cigarettes fall well below the threshold for
concern for compounds with known toxicity. That is, even ignoring the benefits of e-cigarette use and the fact
that the exposure is actively chosen, and even comparing to the levels that are considered unacceptable to
people who are not benefiting from the exposure and do not want it, the exposures would not generate concern
or call for remedial action.
 Expressed concerns about nicotine only apply to vapers who do not wish to consume it; a voluntary (indeed,
intentional) exposure is very different from a contaminant.
 There is no serious concern about the contaminants such as volatile organic compounds (formaldehyde,
acrolein, etc.) in the liquid or produced by heating. While these contaminants are present, they have been
detected at problematic levels only in a few studies that apparently were based on unrealistic levels of heating.
 The frequently stated concern about contamination of the liquid by a nontrivial quantity of ethylene glycol or
diethylene glycol remains based on a single sample of an early technology product (and even this did not rise to
the level of health concern) and has not been replicated.
tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNA) are present in trace quantities and pose no more (likely much less) threat
to health than TSNAs from modern smokeless tobacco products, which cause no measurable risk for cancer.
 Contamination by metals is shown to be at similarly trivial levels that pose no health risk, and the alarmist claims
about such contamination are based on unrealistic assumptions about the molecular form of these elements.
 The existing literature tends to overestimate the exposures and exaggerate their implications. This is partially
due to rhetoric, but also results from technical features. The most important is confusion of the concentration
in aerosol, which on its own tells us little about risk to heath, with the relevant and much smaller total exposure
to compounds in the aerosol averaged across all air inhaled in the course of a day. There is also clear bias in
previous reports in favor of isolated instances of highest level of chemical detected across multiple studies, such
that average exposure that can be calculated are higher than true value because they are “missing” all true
zeros.
 Routine monitoring of liquid chemistry is easier and cheaper than assessment of aerosols. Combined with an
understanding of how the chemistry of the liquid affects the chemistry of the aerosol and insights into behavior
of vapers, this can serve as a useful tool to ensure the safety of e-cigarettes.
 The only unintentional exposures (i.e., not the nicotine) that seem to rise to the level that they are worth further
research are the carrier chemicals themselves, propylene glycol and glycerin. This exposure is not known to
cause health problems, but the magnitude of the exposure is novel and thus is at the levels for concern based on
the lack of reassuring data.
 

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This study has been on the front page of the CASAA web site since it was first published and funded by consumer vapers. Thank you for posting it again:

CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association

Can anyone explain, especially with the recent FDA proposal, why every active (20,000) ECF member is not a supporting member of CASAA?
 

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Precisely WHY I posted it again, there is very good and promising information in here and this among many many other reports significantly Prove that there is in FACT multitudes of studies outlining the benefits of these devices which is what the FDA is claiming "Does Not Exist" when in fact it Does Exist they are just choosing to deny it.

Sincerely;
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Precisely WHY I posted it again, there is very good and promising information in here and this among many many other reports significantly Prove that there is in FACT multitudes of studies outlining the benefits of these devices which is what the FDA is claiming "Does Not Exist" when in fact it Does Exist they are just choosing to deny it.

Sincerely;
Nate

Can we pay for another study? Gosh knows, BT and BP are paying plenty for theirs. Luckily our studies should be cheaper. Fabricating lies is expensive.
 

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Another study would Be Great...But right Now we need to Fund CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association War chest to fight the PR and Legal Battles;That is where the fight Is. Now I am Not saying we do not need anymore Ammo, but as a Member of CASAA I want to get someone to Lobby for Us and a Legal Team to challenge what the FDA sets down. There are other Groups that can Put out a Study, but as Consumers we need dogs in the Fight and that is who CASAA represents.
 

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Can we pay for another study? Gosh knows, BT and BP are paying plenty for theirs. Luckily our studies should be cheaper. Fabricating lies is expensive.

Another study would Be Great...But right Now we need to Fund CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association War chest to fight the PR and Legal Battles;That is where the fight Is. Now I am Not saying we do not need anymore Ammo, but as a Member of CASAA I want to get someone to Lobby for Us and a Legal Team to challenge what the FDA sets down. There are other Groups that can Put out a Study, but as Consumers we need dogs in the Fight and that is who CASAA represents.

Agree on both points. Non biased studies need to be funded. That is the hardest part, finding someone who is neither for or against and can without a doubt PROVE that they have No Possible Reason to contaminate the studies with faulty data or just blatant lies for financial gain.

CASAA is definitely our biggest ally at the moment. However, recently there has been more and more Politicians that are going against the status quo and actually being supportive of vaping. There are not many, but they do have an influence. This is always good news but let us all hope that that support becomes infectious in our favor.
 

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The Truth is a Virus....But In todays Political World the Truth is Belived to Be what will let me Keep the Power they have been Given. In our responses we Need to saturate them With Facts that are Undisputed. Studies are Great but if You read any of Glantz works you see how One can Manipulate Findings to put a spin on most anything that is not Black and white.

The BBC has Just put out a Great 3 minute segment that hits all of our points but I do not know if the FDA will see that as Fact. And Let me first say I welcome Some Regulation but what I can not understand is why they are not reaching out to Us (the People) who are affected to see what works. Nothing that We must Abide by should be done without our say so and if these last 60 days or so is all we have that is Tragic.

The way I see it we all must do everything possible to keep the door open for the future.

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