I bet it sounds perfectly reasonable now!
By all means, do not order from that vendor then, but I am out of options if that vendor sucks!
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I bet it sounds perfectly reasonable now!
By all means, do not order from that vendor then, but I am out of options if that vendor sucks!
Have you tried the Johnson Creek's Domestic or Tennessee Cured that I mentioned yet? You can get 5ml samples for $3.95 each if you want or a 5 pack of samplers for $17.77. JC Trio deal takes $5 off any order of three.
I never thought that I could find a substitute for my analogs, but Domestic worked for the cigarette craving and Tennessee Cured worked for a sweeter analog.
Firing up either one of those in your Vamo/ProTank setup with 1.8% nic or higher and at 4.2 - 4.5 volts should kill the craving quick. The throat hit with Domestic is perfect for me, especially in the morning with some coffee.
I have done Boba's, but really didn't see what all the hype was about. It was okay, but...meh; and all this open/close nonsense with some of these vendors is a deal breaker for me
I never thought that I could find a substitute for my analogs, but Domestic worked for the cigarette craving and Tennessee Cured worked for a sweeter analog.
Firing up either one of those in your Vamo/ProTank setup with 1.8% nic or higher and at 4.2 - 4.5 volts should kill the craving quick. The throat hit with Domestic is perfect for me, especially in the morning with some coffee.
I have done Boba's, but really didn't see what all the hype was about. It was okay, but...meh; and all this open/close nonsense with some of these vendors is a deal breaker for me
Hope it all works out for you. Like I said, I don't know jack about that vendor, but I knew that was out there. I have read no reports on it. Maybe you can be the first.
I just placed my order of the Tennessee Cured 15ml bottle at 1.8%nic. Thanks you for the referral. Hopefully I will like this, if not you owe me $13
Actually i changed my mind at check out. The smallest bottle you can buy is 30ml. Thats all I need is another 30ml bottle sitting in my steep box not being used. Thanks for trying to help. Ive been vaping the Patriots and its ok, I just wish the "peppery" taste would go away...
No worries. 
You should try the Domestic for a better TH too or do a 50/50 mix of the two. Until you find a juice that makes you happy you should probably just get samplers from the vendors to save some money.
Good luck in your search.
You should try the Domestic for a better TH too or do a 50/50 mix of the two. Until you find a juice that makes you happy you should probably just get samplers from the vendors to save some money.Good luck in your search.
I don't get that from Patriot, but it is likely due to the juice being totally flavored from actual tobacco leaves and not tobacco flavoring. I think if you can get used to how it tastes you will be able to appreciate what it is. It still could use some steeping though.
Hope no one minds me jumping in here, but recently I won a contest from Quicknic Juice and I ordered Grandpa's Night Cap and I have to tell you my father used to smoke pipes late at night sometimes and this juice brought all that back to me. It doesn't seem to have any other of the spicyness you spoke about and is slightly sweet.
Now unfortunately what I have is 12mg and only 30%vg, (and I could definately send you a sample if you would like to try it.) but the vendor does do 30%, 50% or 100%. I also received another juice and both are excellent.
I know how difficult it is to find that flavor that you crave, which is why I started DIY so I could adjust the flavors and build on my own tastes.
Now unfortunately what I have is 12mg and only 30%vg, (and I could definately send you a sample if you would like to try it.) but the vendor does do 30%, 50% or 100%. I also received another juice and both are excellent.
I know how difficult it is to find that flavor that you crave, which is why I started DIY so I could adjust the flavors and build on my own tastes.
I haven't tried Patriot, but I have noticed that turning down the voltage/ohms on your setup might help. I have a similar setup to yours (Segelei Telescoping ZMax with Kanger ProTank) and if I want more throat hit I'll turn it up to 4.3 - 4.5 volts, but it's definitely more peppery. If I want to taste more flavor and all the subtleties (?) but with a little less TH, I'll turn it down to 4.0 - 4.2 volts. Flavor heaven for me. For the T2 clearo that came with the kit I had to turn it down to 3.6 volts. Try playing with your volts/ohms and see if it helps with the pepperyness (spell check is telling me I'm stupid right now).
I found that with Johnson Creek juices, they are designed for their Vea e-cig and carts which operate around 3.7 volts for max flavor. I am sure the same applies for other vendors as well. When I first got my VV/VW I was all about using ohms mode, but now I find that it's easier to play with the volts instead to bring out the best in whatever I am vaping. Just my
I found that with Johnson Creek juices, they are designed for their Vea e-cig and carts which operate around 3.7 volts for max flavor. I am sure the same applies for other vendors as well. When I first got my VV/VW I was all about using ohms mode, but now I find that it's easier to play with the volts instead to bring out the best in whatever I am vaping. Just my
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Really good juice made similalry to Patriot, but with different tobacco. Both are Natural/Extracted Tobacco (NET)
I have never tried the Catskill Mountain Vapor Store... however I am a wee bit suspicious since the e-liquid names and descriptions are word-for-word identical to those of Tasty Vapor. It may be that CMVS is merely a wholesale customer of TV. The prices are exactly the same too....$15.50 per ounce.
After vaping a whole tank of patriots today I have to say its definitely growing on me. Vaping the juice at a lower watts (as suggested by aussiedog61) really lets the sweetness come through. With a nice tobacco exhale and very sweet aromatic smell. I am wondering if you can order this juice in a higher VG content as I think the vapor production could be increased since vaping at lower watts is better. I also think that since it is a naturally extracted tobacco the throat hit is a little strong for me. I will order this again in a lower NIC level and a higher VG content (if possible).
Dude, I was sweating! LOL. Here's the kicker: it will get better! Once you finally start "getting" extracted tobaccos, well, you'll get more. haha
Nick can hook it up for you.
I dropped him a line on the forum you linked me to. I need to order more patriots today. Thanks again Mann.
Sounds like you may have found something you really like. Always a good day when that happens. I tend to have juices grow on me. First time with Legend I honestly hated it but I steeped it and tried again. Still was just ok but if it isnt awful I tend to drudge through the bottle. Well I think Ive ordered it three times now so ya, its grown on me. Ive been through well over 100 juices, have at least 10 RBA's and maybe 2 juices I love, and 6-7 I will order regularly, maybe lol.
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