Perpetualy burnt taste?

[Briar]

OK, folks, so what is the consensus: Do you think that attys with wick fibers frayed and sticking out are defective and should be returned because that's what's causing the perpetually burnt smell, or not?

I have two of them out of my current five. I'm going to test this theory by trying to restart them. I did an evil job of cleaning them before I saw this thread, but it doesn' t matter anyway, I couldn't use them as is anyway, they were tasting terrible and abusing my throat. Kinda like breathing knives.

Also, do you suppose cutting these fibers down will help? I'll need really small scissors...

Briar.

 

[Briar]

OK, I know I'm replying to myself, but this is fairly important, I think. I dug around in my problematic - that is, burnt-smelling - attys. As I had mentioned, they had frayed wick innards with fibers sticking out. I took tiny manicure scissors and trimmed these fibers. When I took them out of the attys, they were burnt. This, obviously, explains the smell. Also, maybe, the poor wicking.

My common sense tells me that burnt, stinking wick is not healthy either for the atty, or for us. Keep in mind that both of these were basically new - in one case used only a couple of days, in the other maybe three or four, and both looked frayed from the beginning. I do not let my attys go dry. I suspect that the fibers are touching something they are not supposed to, or whatever. I am not that technical. It just that the color of these was burnt, and the attys don't work right, and never have.

Briar.

 

[AetherWolf]

hmm, it may be something else, but i did a little test, i drip for my 901 and just a bit ago shook up my juice just as a "ahh what the hell" idea. It may be just me, but im not getting the burnt taste, and it also delivers more vapor and a smoother draw.

Possible the pg/flavoring/nic are separating?

 

[JerriB]

Possible the pg/flavoring/nic are separating?

Ive always shaked mine up, idk why..Im weird like that. Kinda like when I was in school, and you'd get those little milk catons...I'd always shake those 1st, but I never shake our big gallons. Anyways, could be! lol

 

[paise]

Hi guys:

I'm NOT advocating this for everyone because your results may vary from mine but sometime back I was having problems with the attys for my Dura-C by Janty. I had the first one replaced along with the batteries because they wouldn't hold a charge.

As the second atty began to conk out on me, I found a solution on the boards here. It was to soak the attys in Polident's Smoker's denture cleaner, the 15-minute cleaner (MUST BE SMOKER'S POLIDENT). I let two of the attys I had soak in the warm/hot (not scalding or too hot to touch but hot enough) water for the better part of a day then I allowed them to drain after I blew through the hole on the side where the connection touches the battery. Some dark black gunk came out; it was sort of the consistency of soot but not quite. That's about the closest I can describe it to though. Maybe someone else has a better description than I do. But, regardless, when the attys were dry and I began to use them the vaping was right back as strong and as full as it was the first time I used them.

I am cleaning them with the Polident about once a week to two times a week. I don't want to wear them out or push the wiring to the limits b/c right now funds are tigher than they've ever been and I have no clue when DH's disability is going to go through or even if it will go through without a major fight. He's still threatening to go back to work, heart attack be damned. He knows what his doctor said but he is more concerned about our bills. I tell him that we are making it. It's slow go and I've had to tighten up and not get somethings; however, the fact I'm not spending that $50 to $55 a week on a carton of cigarettes is making a huge difference b/c there is no way I could afford them now. I was buying by the pack about 3 weeks before investing in the e-cig. The sad part is that the packs when multiplied by 10 packs (10 packs = carton) were more expensive but I didn't have the extra to buy the carton to save money either.

Just an FYI: Make sure you're not turning the atty when putting on your cartridge. It can twist the wires inside and hose your atty without you realizing the damage you've done. This was the first of many things I learned from this forum upon purchasing the Dura-C... Never twist the atty; hold it steady where it doesn't twist after it's screwed onto the battery then push the cart on, again without allowing the atty to twist or turn. It's a bit annoying for manuals to line up with the atty wire but somehow I'm managing to do so where the button for manual pressure isn't out of the way too badly.

Please, pleasee, please know that the Polident Smoker's 15-minute cleaner is not a guarantee. It was just something someone else mentioned to try "at your own risk" but he had decent luck with it as have I.

 

[Synthnadz]

One quick recommendation:

Do NOT try the 'dry burn' method of cleaning that has been discussed in various threads in this forum. Doing this with an atomizer with a protruding wick will result in burning it. This will result in a perpetually burnt taste for as long as you keep the atty in use. I made this mistake on two brand new BE112 (801) atomizers this week, and they were both completely ruined by dry burning.

You've got to be really careful when listening to advice in these forums. Perhaps the proponent of the 'dry burn' method happens to use an atty that doesn't have any part of the fiber glass wick exposed, but it sure seems that most of our atomizers do have it exposed these days. As such, don't let your atty get dry at all, and most definitely avoid dry burning it as a desperate cleaning method. ;-)

Good luck!

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

I've stopped doing any dry burn whatsoever, and have been keeping the atty moist. We'll see how long this one lasts before I get a horrid flavor, but I tend to agree, with all the people mentioning less problems with less maintenance, I wonder if this is the solution to the problem. Perhaps we're all a bit obsessed with cleaning! I wonder how clean our bedrooms are

That's an interesting idea Paise, I am actually glad to hear you saw some black gunk come out from the atty after using that cleaning method. I may give it a try on some of my "burnt" tasting attys to see if it revives them. I can't see any fibers coming out of those attys (perhaps it's underneath the bridge??), so I can't confirm if that is it or not, I just thought it was a buildup of gunk on the coil causing the bad flavor.

I totally know what you're talking about with times being tight right now money wise, our economy just sucks, so any way to save money on our habits is great. Hope we all find a way to prolong our hardware and make this an affordable hobby/recreation

 

[doots]

I use 90 Proof alcohol to clean mine and they do great afterwards. Alcohol dries very fast and seems not to hurt the attys,

 

[paise]

I use 90 Proof alcohol to clean mine and they do great afterwards. Alcohol dries very fast and seems not to hurt the attys,

I'd be too apt to drink it rather than clean my attys.

I guess it's a good thing that a) my oldest daughter moved to a neighboring county to be closer to work & college plus get out of the dorms; and b) I couldn't afford it anyhow but if I were to get close enough to an ABC store I'd come home with gin and vermouth then somehow find some place that carries those brine-soaked onions to make a decent Gibson. The ONLY reason my Peach Schnapps is safe is because I'm out of orange juice. LOL!

 

[jj2]

I've had this happen three times now.
And always after I've cleaned them. Especially bad after using Coke to get rid of the build up junk.
The first one, I wanted to do everything to make it last and actually hurt myself. The other two, I used until I couldn't see the coils. Next time, I think I'll use it until it dies.

 

[lotus14]

OK, folks, so what is the consensus: Do you think that attys with wick fibers frayed and sticking out are defective and should be returned because that's what's causing the perpetually burnt smell, or not?

I have two of them out of my current five. I'm going to test this theory by trying to restart them. I did an evil job of cleaning them before I saw this thread, but it doesn' t matter anyway, I couldn't use them as is anyway, they were tasting terrible and abusing my throat. Kinda like breathing knives.

Also, do you suppose cutting these fibers down will help? I'll need really small scissors...

Briar.

What kind of atty is it? The Joye510s always have the little fibers sticking out. Helps the little juice hogs wick faster.

 

[buttercrunch]

this is what worked for me, it's worth a try!! I had four 510 attys with that perpetually burned taste. it was driving me nutso. tried all the cleaning methods. visible fibers beneath the metal bridge on three of them. they worked fine for a few weeks, then they all had that horrid taste. (I admit that I often chain vaped and hot boxed the crapola out of the poor things, which I think is at least part of the problem) On one of them the little fibers were coming loose and really sticking out everywhere with black burned ends on them (weird little things!!) so I pulled them out with tweezers. still the burned taste. I actually threw one atty into the garbage at one point, then decided to keep trying ~ pulled it back out again, I figured I had nothing to lose at that point.... I poured straight VG into one 3-4 times, letting it drain down through the little hole in the threaded end into a shot glass, then got impatient and just tossed them all into the shot glass and filled it up with straight VG until they were completely covered. opened a icy cold bottle of Fat Tire Ale, mmmmm!, went on about my life. the next day, I noticed a layer of yellow in the shot glass so i knew old juice and gunk was disolving into the VG. fished them out of the VG, wiped them off (used NO WATER on them), blew them out a few times and hells bells! all burned taste is gone gone gone, they look beautiful inside, and they have been working beautifully for me ever since. YAY!!!

 

[ParaPXT45]

Ok I have now been using my 510 carts (with the burnt taste) for 9 days now and they are finally clearing up! I guess the only solution is to use them (without inhaling of course) until the factory primer is used up. There is only a very slight hint of the taste left now which may just be psychological. I'm just extremely happy that it is GONE! I can finally taste the flavors of the e-liquid and the 510 gives superior vapor compared to my blu cig. The blu cig had no burnt taste at all however. Again rinsing the attys with rubbing alcohol, peroxide, and even boiling in water for 5 minutes does absolutely nothing for eliminating the burnt taste/smell that seems to be a common occurance at least with the 510 atomizers.

 

[Briar]

... I poured straight VG into one 3-4 times, letting it drain down through the little hole in the threaded end into a shot glass, then got impatient and just tossed them all into the shot glass and filled it up with straight VG until they were completely covered. opened a icy cold bottle of Fat Tire Ale, mmmmm!, went on about my life. the next day, I noticed a layer of yellow in the shot glass so i knew old juice and gunk was disolving into the VG. fished them out of the VG, wiped them off (used NO WATER on them), blew them out a few times and hells bells! all burned taste is gone gone gone, they look beautiful inside, and they have been working beautifully for me ever since. YAY!!!

Hm. I'll try that next time I get this problem. I finally lost patience and tossed my one remaining "burnt" atty into the garbage. I fixed the other two by clipping the burnt ends off the wick fibers, and these are working ok currently. Not making as much vapor as they did when new, but ok. No burnt taste, anyways.

I'm convinced that this is caused by the inner wick singeing when it gets too dry. I tend to vape too fast. I'm paying better attention now, and so far so good. I think the one that was really bad just got totalled from the beginning because i wasn't patient with it.

And, incidentally, this problem only happened to me when I was dripping. I can't figure out the point when I need to add more juice before the wick gets singed, apparently. I'm back to using carts.

Briar.

 

[TrashbagJesus]

I know the last post here is a couple weeks old but, I'm going through the same problem. Nasty, bitter, burnt tasting hits. I am using a 510, by the way. It started a number of days ago. I've been using two of my three attys for about three weeks. The third is relatively new by comparison. It's about a week old with not much millage on it yet, but well past burning off the factory primer. I am getting the same problem with all three.

I've been pretty gentle with my attys in terms of cleaning them. I've used only isopropyl alcohol and hot water, canned air to blow them out and that's it. I've been using the PTB mod (pyramid tea bag) and cleaning my cart filler every night, mainly so they don't leak all over the place in their case. That was working fine until the bad taste came about, then cleaning did nothing.

Over the last couple of days, I noticed that way I was using my PVs might be causing the problem. I was a heavy smoker, heavy in terms of dragging and the speed at which I smoked my stoges. Before any one of my other friends had finished their smokes I was already on my second or third, burned down to the filter.

I am really starting to think that I'm getting this burnt taste because I'm not letting the wick soak up anything. I'm taking too many hits, too close together and not letting the atty rest. I've heard that 510s get a little hotter than other models so that doesn't help when I'm chain vaping.

When I first started vaping, I was very conscientious about how I was hitting my PV. Taking only one to three hits and then letting the atty rest. I think I started, unconsciously, hitting my 510 more like I would a stoge. You can't 'smoke' an e-cig like a cigarette. I think that's why the vapor started tasting bad as of late.

Today, I again started to make a conscientious effort to hit my PV like a PV, not like a smoke. So far.. So far, no more burnt tasting vapor. Here's my advice;

First off, make sure you keep your wick wet. When you drip, give it a chance to prime, let the juice soak into the bridge. Don't hit the thing non-stop and over heat it. If you chain vape try switching between attys, as others in this thread have suggested, in order to let them rest and have the wicks soak up more juice.

I know this burnt tasting vapor may have many different causes but, this is just my personal experience. With my luck, I'll wake up tomorrow and the nasty taste will back.. hopefully not though. Good luck and I hope this post helps someone.