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DPLongo22

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I don't care if it is a lumberjack and a Somali pirate having the conversation....that is how I read posts when people trash VV and praise VW.

People are entitled to their opinions. I just don't like when people praise VW and trash VV just because it is not for them.

Agreed, and I feel the same way about many things related.to this.hobby. I don't like clearos. And that's how I state it.

I liked Marlboro, but I didn't trash Newport's.

I like the Miami Dolphins, but I never trash the New York Jets.

Wait! That last one, there? Yeah, well, that's a lie.
 

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I like both. VV does seem to have more of a fine tune adjustment but VW is set and forget under many conditions. IMO each has advantages and disadvantages. I personally bounce back and forth just playing around. It really just depends on what kind of vape I feel like having at the moment, as warm as possible without a burnt taste or cool and smooth.
 

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+1

I cant stand a clearo or wick tank, but you will rarely see me say that in those words. I understand and respect the various reasons people like and use them.

It's cool to say you don't like something, just not cool to say that Something sucks. Kinda dumb too, when we think about it.
 

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If it were an insignificant number between 1 and 100 instead of a voltage reading or a wattage reading, we could be having the same conversation. What I'm hearing is similar to "I used to like 60 watt bulbs. Now I prefer 1500 lumen bulbs better."

Wattage adjustment does allow you to find the same sweet spot regardless of the resistance of the atomizer. Most of us do those calculations in our heads when we change atomizer resistance, so it isn't a concern.
 

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I like vw. It's just much simpler for me since I'm on the go a lot. I can slap on a clearo that I have pre-filled with a flavor and go. No fiddling, no adjusting, no resistance checking, just slap and go. With that said, I like vv too. My iTaste is vv only. (Although I admit to lusting after the soon-to-be-released vw version!)

Now, I totally admit to saying that I won't plunk down the cash for a Provari until/unless they add vw. It's not because the Provari "sucks" without it ... the Provari is an amazing device just as it is. It's just that I hate parting with my money, so if I'm gonna spend $200, I want it to have my favorite and preferred setting.
 

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I like vw. It's just much simpler for me since I'm on the go a lot. I can slap on a clearo that I have pre-filled with a flavor and go. No fiddling, no adjusting, no resistance checking, just slap and go. With that said, I like vv too. My iTaste is vv only. (Although I admit to lusting after the soon-to-be-released vw version!)

Now, I totally admit to saying that I won't plunk down the cash for a Provari until/unless they add vw. It's not because the Provari "sucks" without it ... the Provari is an amazing device just as it is. It's just that I hate parting with my money, so if I'm gonna spend $200, I want it to have my favorite and preferred setting.

If you prefer it, that's all that counts. For me, it's all about the vape, with very little emphasis on features. My current favorite doesn't check resistances. GREAT feature, but performance rules for me - and this sucker PERFORMS.
 

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I like a vape in the range of 6 watts +/-. That's usually 5.3 watts at 3.7v on a 2.6 ohm coil or 3.5 volts on a 2 ohm coil. I might hit 4v with a 3 ohm coil, but it's not a lot of change. Basically, I go up or down a few tenths of a volt to get where I need to be. Yes, it would be nice to dial the watts and forget it, but my Provari V2 doesn't offer that option.

I'm still looking at a Vamo for a reasonably priced Provari backup. Who knows ... I may turn into a wattage guy after that. Naw, I'll dial what I'm vaping if I need to. I may find that I need 8.4 watts on some juices and 9 on others. Or, I may need one wattage on a carto and another on my Vivi Nova and another on my Protank. Bottom and top coil atomizers may need more or less power to generate a little warmth at the drip tip.

I think the important part of the combination is having variable something. :)
 
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Ok everyone, I am a true believer in VW now. I bought a ZMAX and all I can say is sold and amazing. I personally like to set and forget now and changing the voltage every time was a pain in the rump. Thanks again for everyone who responded and I appreciate that.

Glad to see you now like VW. The Vamo is getting rid of the VV option in their next version for a reason. VW is the future of variable vaping from all that I have read. Most people want consistency and less hassle and fiddiling. There will always be the "hobbist" who like VV and there is nothing wrong with that. If you like to make adjustsment yourself, VV is the way to go. But the majority want vaping to be as easy and consistent as possible and VW is closer to that concept.
 
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So your saying it sucks to say something sucks? :)

Vv or Vw? Same thing... Really, it's just a different part of the same math formula.


No they are not the same. Does VV automatically adjust when the resistence of the atty/carto, etc changes? NO. Saying they are the same is just as bad as saying one sucks and one doesn't. Comments like this just confuses new people and are not helpful.
 
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Really do not understand all the controversy.
Preference is pretty much irrelevant. End result is output which is measured in watts.

Realized or not even those using VV are attempting to keep the output(watts) consistent regardless of battery voltage.
VV users also mostly are adjusting per resistance to achieve proper wattage for a comfortable vape.
Using VW is simply a way to get it CLOSE and reduce adjustment when changing resistance.

Both ways work and for some one way is just easier to understand than the other.

I know 1.8-2v over resistance is a good starting point.
I also know most of my Vaping is around 7 watts - 1.75-2v over resistance on my devices.

Knowing this I can get finer tuning on the eVic using watts rather than volts. Just my way of doing things.
 

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No they are not the same. Does VV automatically adjust when the resistence of the atty/carto, etc changes? NO. Saying they are the same is just as bad as saying one sucks and one doesn't. Comments like this just confuses new people and are not helpfu.

They are for me*. But I have no problem that they aren't the same for you.

* I use very close to the same resistances on pretty much everything. I rarely change setting, be it watts or volts. And when I am inclined to change, it's because I'm looking for a slightly different vape. Therefore, whichever I'm using is getting changed.

To some it matters, to others it doesn't. Here's to living :toast:
 

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They are for me*. But I have no problem that they aren't the same for you.

* I use very close to the same resistances on pretty much everything. I rarely change setting, be it watts or volts. And when I am inclined to change, it's because I'm looking for a slightly different vape. Therefore, whichever I'm using is getting changed.

To some it matters, to others it doesn't. Here's to living :toast:

I think your comments could confuse a new person in that they may not see any difference in how VV & VW function and that it's just a difference of opinion.

1. VV does NOT adjust to the change in the resistence of the atty/carto one is using.

2. VW does automatically adjust to the change in the resistence of the atty/carto one is using.

So the way they function is different. One person may perfer one form of vaping over the other, which is fine. But they are not the same.
 
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I can only see your post as a way to confuse as many new people as possible, in that you are implying that VV & VW function exactly the same and that it's just a difference of opinion.

1. VV does NOT adjust to the change in the resistence of the atty/carto one is using.

2. VW does automatically adjust to the change in the resistence of the atty/carto one is using.

That is not an opinion but a fact. One person may perfer one form of vaping over the other, which is fine. But they are not the same.

Of course if one uses the same resistance atty/carto/clearo all the time this makes watts unnecessary. I have a variable wattage device, its called my finger and I use it to buy 100 pre-punched cartos at the same resistance once a year.Couldnt be simpler.

All VW devices also have VV.WHY? Because VV is more accurate. Watts get you in range but adjusts in .5 watts increments while VV adjusts in .1 volt increments. Watts will get you close but VV will get you closer.
 
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