Glass bottles with dropper tops are very nice indeed. My first encounter with them was from Halo. I'm sure there are vendors out there who sell them as well.
Pet peeves, complaints, suggestions and ideas for suppliers.
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Glass bottles with dropper tops are very nice indeed. My first encounter with them was from Halo. I'm sure there are vendors out there who sell them as well.
I'd like business cards I can actually use. I've only ever handed one business card out to someone who asked what I had in my mouth and I had to apologise for the lack of info on it. You wouldn't know what they sold if I didn't say. I've never had a business card through with an order from any vendor here that was useful to me at all whatsoever. Waste of the paper laminate and advertising. Something really simple like this is an electronic cigarette or not real smoke or anything useful other than just a company name and address.
juice descriptions lacking or really incorrect. I don't consider "real blackberry" to taste like medicine. If it's medicine fake taste, say so. Some people might really like it but it's nowhere near a real taste.
juice needs a thickness rating. I can't put massively thick juices in my tanks or clearos. Sometimes all VG is thin enough to use with my tanks no problem but I didn't know until I bought it how thick or thin it would be. It's an important factor.
juice descriptions lacking or really incorrect. I don't consider "real blackberry" to taste like medicine. If it's medicine fake taste, say so. Some people might really like it but it's nowhere near a real taste.
juice needs a thickness rating. I can't put massively thick juices in my tanks or clearos. Sometimes all VG is thin enough to use with my tanks no problem but I didn't know until I bought it how thick or thin it would be. It's an important factor.
I do have one -- not with suppliers so much as with -- manufacturers. In fine print somewhere I'd like to see 510; 801; 808; 902 etc. And, it is getting so it should also have manufacturer Boge510; JOYE510LR; Bauway510 eg. I'm not down on "branding" by sellers at all -- but it sure can be difficult when you find something you really like and don't know which of the multitude of vendors you have purchased that item from because there is no indication......or worse, which item it is.
Rant Rant -- hmm -- time to up nic level?
Rant Rant -- hmm -- time to up nic level?
I would love to see the battery connection, ohm rating, manufacturer on attys. At least on the package.
If it was on the atty I wouldn't have to be so organized to not to mix them up.
Yes to all of them!
Personally I like flip-top bottles- and don't love the glass droppers because they're too tough to use when you're driving. Flip tops are awesome! No, they're not childproof, but most kids can get into anything- it's the adults that have issues.
A little sticker on each box of cartos with the supplier's name would be handy.
Better branding and info for every product would be great- there's no such thing as TMI when we're trying to make healthy decisions. There are some suppliers that make you hunt to find if it's PG or VG- there's just no excuse for that, and I shop elsewhere.
Seriously- the tubes on clearos need to be MUCH better. 10 minutes worth of research, and a week or two of testing could make them incredible, but alas, we're stuck with these things that threaten to come apart in our pockets.
It's all about the juice flow for me- if an atty dies- so be it. It's a heating element made in China, so I don't expect wonders, but more consistent quality control would be better.
Someone needs to come up with some sort of good tank/juice feeding system. The person who figures out how to do that at a good price point with a sleek design will rule the vaping world. There are several decent ones, but no GREAT ones until you get into the pricey bottom feeder mods.
Personally I like flip-top bottles- and don't love the glass droppers because they're too tough to use when you're driving. Flip tops are awesome! No, they're not childproof, but most kids can get into anything- it's the adults that have issues.
A little sticker on each box of cartos with the supplier's name would be handy.
Better branding and info for every product would be great- there's no such thing as TMI when we're trying to make healthy decisions. There are some suppliers that make you hunt to find if it's PG or VG- there's just no excuse for that, and I shop elsewhere.
Seriously- the tubes on clearos need to be MUCH better. 10 minutes worth of research, and a week or two of testing could make them incredible, but alas, we're stuck with these things that threaten to come apart in our pockets.
It's all about the juice flow for me- if an atty dies- so be it. It's a heating element made in China, so I don't expect wonders, but more consistent quality control would be better.
Someone needs to come up with some sort of good tank/juice feeding system. The person who figures out how to do that at a good price point with a sleek design will rule the vaping world. There are several decent ones, but no GREAT ones until you get into the pricey bottom feeder mods.
It drives me batty when I can't find the ratio of VG to PG on a website of a vendor that *only* sells e-liquid; or they list the mix as "proprietary" (Grrrr, Mrs. T's!) Seriously- it shouldn't be a state secret if some people are sensitive to liquids that are mostly PG. Very annoying. I would've had to vape at least 3 vendor's juices utterly blind and just hope I didn't start breaking out in hives; I ordered a bunch of samples *right* before I realized the problem was PG. I haven't quite worked up to trying more than a couple drops of one or two flavors from Vermillion River's samples for example. (I'm sure I could email and hope they decide to share, but frankly- I'm lazy and will likely just reach for something I know will not make me itch and just ignore the rest til I get sick of looking at it and give it to someone else, lol. I'd rather just have the website tell me what I need to know.)
Badly organized, unprofessional websites with lousy code... not specific to vape-gear vendors obviously, but it seems weirdly more common in this industry than others, maybe because it's often one person running a small website I guess. Still, if I'm digging through a zillion random "categories of flavors" that are organized nonsensically to try to remember where that one flavor I want is listed, or I can't follow links that pop menus under stuff rather than over, I'm going to be annoyed.
And amen to the request for atties with a bit more info on them! I have so many various things labeled in nail polish it's absurd (I don't trust myself to keep them well organized). Still, I inevitably lose track of which are the Boge cartos, which is the LR atty I'm using, etc. And sharpie doesn't last well enough...
Badly tested things prematurely released on the unsuspecting public that require modding to make work properly. EGo T, I'm looking at *you*- it shouldn't be that every second person that buys one gets Yummy Burning Plastic constantly. And the clearos- leaky, leaky, leaky with a side order of burnt plastic if they get warm. Bleh.
Badly organized, unprofessional websites with lousy code... not specific to vape-gear vendors obviously, but it seems weirdly more common in this industry than others, maybe because it's often one person running a small website I guess. Still, if I'm digging through a zillion random "categories of flavors" that are organized nonsensically to try to remember where that one flavor I want is listed, or I can't follow links that pop menus under stuff rather than over, I'm going to be annoyed.
And amen to the request for atties with a bit more info on them! I have so many various things labeled in nail polish it's absurd (I don't trust myself to keep them well organized). Still, I inevitably lose track of which are the Boge cartos, which is the LR atty I'm using, etc. And sharpie doesn't last well enough...
Badly tested things prematurely released on the unsuspecting public that require modding to make work properly. EGo T, I'm looking at *you*- it shouldn't be that every second person that buys one gets Yummy Burning Plastic constantly. And the clearos- leaky, leaky, leaky with a side order of burnt plastic if they get warm. Bleh.
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I really hope and pray that all the suppliers and manufacturers read this thread.
I know they won't but, if everybody who has a favorite 'vendor' would inform them by sending them a link to it, it may help solve our wants and needs.
You never know. Wonders do happen...
Oh, I've just cracked a two month anniversity of being tobacco free because of these devices.
I salute you, the Personal Vaping Devices!!!
I give many many thanks to this industry!!!
Thanks, guys,
I know they won't but, if everybody who has a favorite 'vendor' would inform them by sending them a link to it, it may help solve our wants and needs.
You never know. Wonders do happen...
Oh, I've just cracked a two month anniversity of being tobacco free because of these devices.
I salute you, the Personal Vaping Devices!!!
I give many many thanks to this industry!!!
Thanks, guys,
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I am sure suppliers are reading this. Some things are viable and cheap enough to do, others not so much. It's hard to tell if the thread makes a difference because they will make it out to be their idea. (which is totally fine)
Tried a Reo yet?
I couldn't resist. To me its the most hassle free vaping I have ever tried.And I agree with more info, a viscosity rating would be nice, but that could be a nightmare to get standardized. "This here whoozydoozy juice is 10w30, and this here pumpkin flavor is 10w40"
I know some of the premium atty vendors stamp the bottom of them and that is definately a great start in the right direction.
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I've a few...
Nic-Strength - some companies don't offer a diverse enough amount of nic-strengths. I vape 12mg, and some companies do not offer it, just 8mg and 16mg. Sure, I could cut it myself, but I shouldn't have to. Sure, I could request a special order, but once again, I shouldn't have to.
Primer-less attys - this one is generally out of the hands of the vendor as most probably get theirs from China, but, I absolutely despise atty primer. So much so, that I will NOT purchase any that have it, no matter how cheap. Sure, I could get a jewelery cleaner and problem solved, but should I really have to? No.
Beta-test your new products and review them extensively before putting them on the market (i.e. Lookin' at you G4 cartomizers!) - Be honest with those who you sell to while doing this. If the product lacks in a certain criteria, TELL US ABOUT IT! Of course this is a bit suggestive, everyone's vaping experience is different from one another, but, if this is done, at least when we do shell out the $$$ to try the product, after it was extensively researched and reviewed by a vendor, at least we can make more specific and appropiate purchases based on, the very least, a vendor's review whom we might have similar interests. If I were a vendor, I would already be doing this.
I am sure there is more I am forgetting, and I agree whole-hearted with a lot of suggestions already made.
Nic-Strength - some companies don't offer a diverse enough amount of nic-strengths. I vape 12mg, and some companies do not offer it, just 8mg and 16mg. Sure, I could cut it myself, but I shouldn't have to. Sure, I could request a special order, but once again, I shouldn't have to.
Primer-less attys - this one is generally out of the hands of the vendor as most probably get theirs from China, but, I absolutely despise atty primer. So much so, that I will NOT purchase any that have it, no matter how cheap. Sure, I could get a jewelery cleaner and problem solved, but should I really have to? No.
Beta-test your new products and review them extensively before putting them on the market (i.e. Lookin' at you G4 cartomizers!) - Be honest with those who you sell to while doing this. If the product lacks in a certain criteria, TELL US ABOUT IT! Of course this is a bit suggestive, everyone's vaping experience is different from one another, but, if this is done, at least when we do shell out the $$$ to try the product, after it was extensively researched and reviewed by a vendor, at least we can make more specific and appropiate purchases based on, the very least, a vendor's review whom we might have similar interests. If I were a vendor, I would already be doing this.
I am sure there is more I am forgetting, and I agree whole-hearted with a lot of suggestions already made.
OMG! I was just saying not more then 10 minutes ago how I hate the hard plastic bottles. Sure I can put them in my own softer bottles, but don't want to have to do that. I'm afraid of the hard plastic cracking if I squeeze too hard.
I solved the rolling off the table problem by wrapping a rubber band around the battery. A coating would be preferable for this such as Rino Liner or Shrink Tight. I don't need a smooth shinny looking PV. I like your flat surface idea though.
I'd like to see someone make a rack to place your cartos in when filling them. They could sit in there at an angle and you could quickly fill 5 or 6 of them. My bf is good at wood working. Maybe I'll ask him. lol
A lock mechanism would be nice for the button. Covers work, but a sliding lock would be better.
And yes, make the atts and cartos last longer and of better quality. I'm new to this and it didn't take me long to figure that one out. XD
I didn't read this whole thread so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but my pet peeve is poor organization in web stores. It really bugs me when I have to waste my time scrolling through page after page of seemingly random listings to find what I'm looking for. I don't think it's a reach to expect one type of a thing in one section and another type of a thing in a different section with some kind of index to navigate by.
As far as vaping itself, it took me a long time to find a system that works for me, but it works and I have no complaints about it so I'm okay there. I guess I have a generic peeve in that it took so long for me to find something that works well for me, but what can be done about that, everybody is so different. I think that will never change. You just have to experiment a lot with vaping to find your groove.
As far as vaping itself, it took me a long time to find a system that works for me, but it works and I have no complaints about it so I'm okay there. I guess I have a generic peeve in that it took so long for me to find something that works well for me, but what can be done about that, everybody is so different. I think that will never change. You just have to experiment a lot with vaping to find your groove.
@ Skypea,
Congrats on the three weeks of beginning a tobacco free life!!!
Congrats on the three weeks of beginning a tobacco free life!!!
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I'd like for somebody to make a thing that would take up just one outlet in a power strip, but be like a power strip, so that you could plug several different e-cigarettes in to charge, and that would also accomodate a hookah-doodle.
I know they have slimmer chargers now, but it is $15 for just one, I'd rather see several glued together in a vertical stack!
I know they have slimmer chargers now, but it is $15 for just one, I'd rather see several glued together in a vertical stack!
It certainly is. Has your smeller and taste buds kicked back in yet? Wow! They amazed me... LOLOL
I live in an inside apartment complex and can now smell ever fart in the hallways I walk thru, now. LOLOL
The supplier list on ECF is in order of the supplier joining the forum. The order gives users an idea of how long the vendors have been with the forum (and presumedly in business); so the ones at the beginning of the list are the more 'established' vendors.
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