PG and eating low carb?

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mamu

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We don't absorb enough nicotine? I feel like I OD accidentally every day on nicotine. Get light-headed and nauseous if i vape too much. But i just love the throat hit so much.

I get sick and have headaches when I vape anything higher than 18 mg.

I've currently gone down to 12 mg and still get an absolutely awesome throat hit with my screwdriver and Dura-C.

And I'm constantly vaping!

I'm curious what e-cig model you have? With the right one you would be able to cut your nicotine strength and not get nauseous and still have an awesome throat hit.
 

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Congrats Epipeman and thanks to you and waywardsister for the encouragement!

Booboo I am basically talking about Atkins but I can't say I'm into rereading the books and all or following the phases. for me it's just "Let's not eat this."

Mamu:
I have a Janty Kissbox, a 901 and a dura but lately have only been vaping the dura.

My strengths vary; i used to go as high as 24mg but have not in a long time. Now the highest i go to is 18mg. I will check out 12mg soon though; especially my stick arrives. :)
 

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So....on another note; I will be vaping flavored PG juice and testing ketone strips to see if anything happens.

After about a week or so, I will begin vaping unflavored VG and testing ketone strips.

Hopefully this can give us some indications.

Was always wondering if flavor had anything to do with it; I should perhaps pick up some PG unflavored as well.
 

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Please do report back on your findings Rorschach.... I guess I'll be finding out this week sometime just how much vaping effects blood sugar levels..I'm on a small dose of glucose oral medication...I've been putting off having my blood work done... But, I can usually tell when its getting too high just by how I feel..And so far, I feel fine...

I definitely have noticed since vaping my appetite has decreased...
 

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I'm a carb junky and have been doing Atkins on and off for 35 years. My current weight loss program has been purely exercise, damn the carbs lol. Power walking 35-45 miles a week carrying 10lbs dead weight (trying to get back to the 20lbs I was carrying a couple years ago). Doesn't get easier at age 60.

Since my first e-cig arrived 4/30, I've lost 5.6lbs and 2.8lbs since going smoke-free on 5/18. (22.4lbs total since starting in February)
 

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I'm a carb junky and have been doing Atkins on and off for 35 years. My current weight loss program has been purely exercise, damn the carbs lol. Power walking 35-45 miles a week carrying 10lbs dead weight (trying to get back to the 20lbs I was carrying a couple years ago). Doesn't get easier at age 60.

Since my first e-cig arrived 4/30, I've lost 5.6lbs and 2.8lbs since going smoke-free on 5/18. (22.4lbs total since starting in February)

That's extremely impressive,sir! Keep it up!:)
 

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Please do report back on your findings Rorschach.... I guess I'll be finding out this week sometime just how much vaping effects blood sugar levels..I'm on a small dose of glucose oral medication...I've been putting off having my blood work done... But, I can usually tell when its getting too high just by how I feel..And so far, I feel fine...

I definitely have noticed since vaping my appetite has decreased...

End of Day 3 and only in the "trace" area, if even. I've been good about keeping the carbs to a minimum/non-existent.

I'll know definitively (at least for me) by the end of the week about flavored PG.
 

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Ah, I used to remember being so happy when the sticks turned purple.

I've since eliminated them, because I've been maintaining for quite a number of years, with some times being not as careful as others.:rolleyes:

It truly has become my way of eating, but I found it very easy, as my mom used to cook pretty low carb...........meats, veggies, salads, and every once in a while, desserts.

When I do go off track, I find it very easy to get back on.......I don't believe there is an easier way to maintain good health and a fit body........of course, my workout regimen is part of the whole picture, also.
I'm a Slow Burn advocate.
 

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Day 1 of induction down and already purple! Is that normal? I've never gone this long without a soda, and think I'm going to die! Also, I craved cigarettes really bad and almost cheated tonight after 5 months without! Scary! If it comes down to a choice between staying off cigs and being a lardass Dr.Pepper fiend, I'm going to have to go back to pop!
 

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Day 1 of induction down and already purple! Is that normal? I've never gone this long without a soda, and think I'm going to die! Also, I craved cigarettes really bad and almost cheated tonight after 5 months without! Scary! If it comes down to a choice between staying off cigs and being a lardass Dr.Pepper fiend, I'm going to have to go back to pop!

Now don't quote me on this....there have been a few health scares about aspartame, but not IN MY VIEW enough to worry about. Get one-cal type soda and drink away. It never took me out of ketosis - unlike curry....
 

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I did induction for 4 months last year, then gradually began adding carbs back in. During the period this year when vaping was my sole source of NRT, my weight was not effected at all and I know this for a fact because I weigh and check body fat percentage often. My only source of carbs now are oatmeal, fresh fruit and field peas, yet my weight was stable while vaping. I exercise quite a bit though.
 

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Neither PG or VG follow the same pathway as glucose. Their immediate presence in the blood does not have the same effect on insulin or blood sugar.
Both are easily metabolized by the body. Glycerin is very common in the body. PG becomes lactic acid, which is also very common in the body.
Both can be used to make glucose intermediates, so can protein.
I would be more concerned about the effect of drinking half a glass of milk than I would be of how much PG or VG I'm taking in.
I have concerns about PG and VG, but blood sugar is not one of them.


Actually, PG is first metabolized to pyruvate, which is a ketone; it only becomes lactic acid in anaerobic conditions. Once the PG is metabolized by alcohol dehydrogenase in the liver, the pyruvate is then converted to Acetyl-CoA in the mitochondrion, and enters the TCA cycle. PG won't contribute at all directly to blood surgar levels, but it will likely effect blood pH, especially if you're a heavy user.
 

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Thank you Atreides, this is exactly the type of info I've been looking for! I'm ketogenic anyway, a bit more won't hurt. :) I suppose that's why I never got any of the common side effects ppl report from PG, like headaches, nausea etc. My bod is used to using ketones.

Still don't know why my weight jumped up though, unless it had to do with getting less nicotine than usual (or something unrelated)
 

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This is just $.02, don't mean to interrupt, but my appetite is booming since off analogs, (lower nic?) have impulse just to cram any food. I fought weight gain all my life, now 62 yrs old and weight right now at 150#, and a 5'2' that is not acceptable. Increasing exercise is easy, I have tremendous energy, but sometimes just need a ground to re-start. Don't want to go the route of appetite suppressants either, so have to adjust carbs, increase veggies, and will power!! B12ad, that weight loss is incredible. And the theory of eating more X with smaller portions does work very well for me without feeling draggy, last year took off 25#. So guess have to get back in the habit. It does, however, seem to disrupt your former life when you start vaping??? Sitting on ECF all day, vaping away! Hmmmmmm. weight gain! Also, am using VG now, but really feel much better down to 125-130#. Also better for my knees and foot joints, and breathing.
 
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