Pg, lactic acid, ph

[brownbrown4]

1st: i can't spell, and have horrible writing grammar

All,
Hopefully everyone knows that PG juice converts to Latic Acid on our bodies.
But what most people dont know is that our bodies have to have a natural PH balance (Alkalinity-Acid Balance).
The human body's perfect PH is 7.3-7.4 on the scale (0-14). which is slighly alkaline.
Now, a hamburger and fries is near the lower part of the scale 1-6ish. and a bundle of broccolli is at the higher 7-14.

Most of our living styles today give us a highly ACIDIC body PH. this in turn causes our body to have MORE aches and pains, allergies to be worse, toxifies our blood, over fatigue, inhibits our bodies to produce hormones and makes our red blood cells weak.

To add to that us PG users ADD to that with a chemical that directly converts to ACID. NOT GOOD

Soulution: GREEN Drinks or pills, much more veggies in your diets, less meat and complex carbohydrates. and at least 1 oz of water per lb of your body weight (this is the minimum).

2nd:I am in no way a doctor, nor affilitated with any company (other than the Military )
But i learned this a week ago, and have started eating more veggies and taking green pills to get my ph higher. i also drink 1 gallon or near everyday. <-worked my way to that

And i have to tell you. when i wake up, my back doesnt hurt anywhere near what it used. my energy is great, my skin is looking better, and i feel like a million bucks.

Try it, get a PH test kit. (from a pharmacy store) and see where you stand...

I posted this to help anyone with PG reactions (like myself). or anyone with allergies, natural aches and pains, or who have genetic health issues...
(there are TONS of references on the BODY PH on the Google, bing and yahoo)

thanks and be healthy.

Sincerely,
BB

 

[franklyspeaking]

Good information! Thanks for sharing it!!!

 

[brownbrown4]

Good information! Thanks for sharing it!!!

thanks. i know with the vastness of this forum, there are people with Heart, blood, and muscle issues. and i hope this will help them get/feel better. at least a little

i suffer from Colitis, and i hope this keeps me from having a relapse in the future....

 

[Synthesis]

What do you mean by "green pills"?

 

[brownbrown4]

veggie pills. they help give you the nutrients of more veggies in your diet.
i'm leaning toward the drinks for better absorption. but as of now i have veggies pills that are also a multi-vitamin

if you look up supreme green, ulitmate green, on the net, it will point you in the right direction.

 

[brownbrown4]

oh and GNC has pills and drink form too.
i got my pills from GNC made by GNC, but they aren't known for top notch anything... i just wanted to get started ASAP

 

[Vaporista]

This is very important information we are indeed increasing our acidity levels (which are way too high anyways thanks to refined modern diets for most people smokers, or not)
and we are particularly increasing our acid by converting PG to Lactic acid. It's not a good thing at all.
There are all kinds of alkaline products on the market and a lot of snake oil.
The cheapest and most cost effective method to increase the body PH to more alkaline levels is to drink plain water mixed with sodium bicarb daily.
A few drops of food grade sodium chlorite ion soultions, if you can find it, will alkanize several liters of water.
Green commercial Products such as green powders etc help to a point but they are expensive and not as effective as consuming fresh green vegetables. We do need to get our bodies more alkaline and the easiest way to do this is to increase our intake of alkaline foods and decrease our consumption of acid producing foods- especially if you vape PG

 

[Synthesis]

I'd never heard of the "green pills" before. Interesting. Where can you find sodium bicarb?

ETA: Also, what if you use vg instead of pg, does that change things any?

 

[Vaporista]

I'd never heard of the "green pills" before. Interesting. Where can you find sodium bicarb?

ETA: Also, what if you use vg instead of pg, does that change things any?

Any supermarket. By the way "Green Pills" are also the same as green drinks eg Barley Green and a host of other stuff on the market, basically they're dehydrated and concentrated herbs and grasses ...well green.

From Wiki

Since it has long been known and is widely used, has many related names such as baking soda, bread soda, cooking soda, bicarbonate of soda. Colloquially, its name is shortened to sodium bicarb, bicarb soda, or simply bicarb.

 

[brownbrown4]

Any supermarket. By the way "Green Pills" are also the same as green drinks eg Barley Green and a host of other stuff on the market, basically they're dehydrated and concentrated herbs and grasses ...well green.

i drank a double shot of wheat grass from jamba juice yesturday...
lol, my ladytard said it was gross. she had a single shot 8-o

 

[JohnnyVapor]

I hate to be a downer on this thread, but the body naturally regulates its pH levels very well, and the small addition of PG to lactic acid isn't going to make a huge impact. Lactic acid is naturally created in the body through natural metabolism of pyruvate, and is created in large amounts during exercise. This is what causes muscle soreness.

I'm not a doctor or a health care professional, but as long as you are keeping yourself well hydrated no additional steps should need to be taken. If you're very concerned, then by all means eat more vegetables, but I wouldn't consider it necessary.

This advice is of course for average people - if your doctor tells you to be concerned about acidosis due to an existing condition, then you may need to take additional steps.

 

[Vaporista]

I hate to be a downer on this thread, but the body naturally regulates its pH levels very well, and the small addition of PG to lactic acid isn't going to make a huge impact. Lactic acid is naturally created in the body through natural metabolism of pyruvate, and is created in large amounts during exercise. This is what causes muscle soreness.

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Well we don't know exactly how much PG we are converting into Lactic acid - we all vape different amounts.
Over acidic bodies over the years are, I do believe, the cause of many of the health problems we are experiencing in later life. It's a subject well worth reading up on.

 

[brownbrown4]

Well we don't know exactly how much PG we are converting into Lactic acid - we all vape different amounts.
Over acidic bodies over the years are, I do believe, the cause of many of the health problems we are experiencing in later life. It's a subject well worth reading up on.

Vaporista is right.. our lifestyles now are already acidic.. no throw more on top and its not good.

Our bodies do TRY to regulate its PH levels. but after days, months and years of Mc'd s and fried foods, its not going to hold up..

Johnny, your not a downer, but go get a PH test and let us know what you get. Unless your a vegan, and never eat fast food, drinks soda, or eat candy..

 

[SDHorseShoe]

What if you use glycerin for vaping as opposed to pg? Same or not?

 

[brownbrown4]

What if you use glycerin for vaping as opposed to pg? Same or not?

not same . glycerin turns into Glucose... a type of sugar... extra sugar gets turns into fat, the body stores extra acid in the fat to get it out of the blood stream... (like johnny said the body compensates)
then when you burn the fat, the acid is released back into the blood stream, compounding to what acid you already have in your blood.

Its crazy stuff....

 

[treelvr]

(sodium bicarbonite = baking soda, just FYI)

 

[JohnnyVapor]

Vaporista is right.. our lifestyles now are already acidic.. no throw more on top and its not good.

Our bodies do TRY to regulate its PH levels. but after days, months and years of Mc'd s and fried foods, its not going to hold up..

Johnny, your not a downer, but go get a PH test and let us know what you get. Unless your a vegan, and never eat fast food, drinks soda, or eat candy..

I'm certainly not a vegan, but I am a weightlifter, and while there's a decent amount of talk in bodybuilding forums about lactic acid, it's not usually centered around long term effects, more around short term elimination(for increased endurance). I can't say I've had much negative health effects from it, but it might be a good idea to check with weightlifters and marathon runners about long term effects of lactic acid buildup.

I'm honestly not sure about the amount of lactic acid created by vaping PG, but in my personal experience I'd bet it's less than what would be created by a daily workout or run. I've not noticed any additional problems by working out and vaping, which should in theory give me a large amount of lactic acid buildup.

Again, this is just my experience as a heavy vaper and lifter. If you have concerns, you shoul talk to your doctor, and if you notice any strange symptoms, DEFINITELY talk to your doctor.

 

[TropicalBob]

Get your PH checked with every blood test. I do. I've been e-smoking daily for two years. NO CHANGE IN BLOOD PH. It's "normal". This acid-alkaline doctrine is a relatively new nutrition sub-cult. Don't take what I say next as gospel, but I read an entire book on this - and threw the book in the trash upon completion.

There are hundreds of nutrition sub-cults out there, all with "the answer". The question too often is: "How can we get you to spend money on special drinks, pills, supplements, books?"

Believe your blood tests. Get them. Believe them. Forget sub-cults.

 

[brownbrown4]

I'm certainly not a vegan, but I am a weightlifter, and while there's a decent amount of talk in bodybuilding forums about lactic acid, it's not usually centered around long term effects, more around short term elimination(for increased endurance). I can't say I've had much negative health effects from it, but it might be a good idea to check with weightlifters and marathon runners about long term effects of lactic acid buildup.

I'm honestly not sure about the amount of lactic acid created by vaping PG, but in my personal experience I'd bet it's less than what would be created by a daily workout or run. I've not noticed any additional problems by working out and vaping, which should in theory give me a large amount of lactic acid buildup.

Again, this is just my experience as a heavy vaper and lifter. If you have concerns, you shoul talk to your doctor, and if you notice any strange symptoms, DEFINITELY talk to your doctor.

Your a lifter! Sweet.. me too. I only noticed more (than normal) lactic acid build up when i was doing high reps, when i started vaping.. but now its better.. i started cutting with at least 20% Vg. plus i figured the extra Glucose would help feed the muscle tissue.

although i wasn't just talking about lactic acid. there are quite a few more in the body, that all compund to do the same to PH

 

[brownbrown4]

Get your PH checked with every blood test. I do. I've been e-smoking daily for two years. NO CHANGE IN BLOOD PH. It's "normal". This acid-alkaline doctrine is a relatively new nutrition sub-cult. Don't take what I say next as gospel, but I read an entire book on this - and threw the book in the trash upon completion.

There are hundreds of nutrition sub-cults out there, all with "the answer". The question too often is: "How can we get you to spend money on special drinks, pills, supplements, books?"

Believe your blood tests. Get them. Believe them. Forget sub-cults.

I agree on the acid-alkaline being new. I just want people to explore possibilities. Many homeopathic meds and believes are now proven and mainstream.

And i dont know anyone that gets blood tests for some reason?
Unless they have something wrong with them of course..